Yup. Think it was about 2010 when he started fading for Leinster?
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- Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:39 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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- Thu Jan 09, 2025 8:24 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
He's still better than any winger Leinster have produced since Tony O'Reilly though. Hickie or Horgan would have loved to play with Ireland at the top. Watched a Horgan highlight video recently and you forget just how good he was at his peak. Hickie. Shame he bowed out do early but he would have be...
- Thu Jan 09, 2025 6:00 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
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Re: The Official Irish Rugby Thread
Stockdale. Is he still up to international rugby? Was he ever? He had one decent season and then done fuck all Remember the old proverb "one swallow does not a wife make" He's still better than any winger Leinster have produced since Tony O'Reilly though. Hickie or Horgan would have loved...
- Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:29 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Incoming!!!!
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Re: Incoming!!!!
- Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:11 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Incoming!!!!
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Re: Incoming!!!!
Prendergast is nowhere near as narky as Sexton. Probably more talented too.
- Thu Jan 09, 2025 5:05 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Incoming!!!!
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- Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:50 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Incoming!!!!
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- Thu Jan 09, 2025 4:42 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Incoming!!!!
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- Tue Oct 03, 2023 2:12 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Is OomSB a traitor?
- Replies: 36
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Re: Is OomSB a traitor?
Oh I see - the winner of the head to head outranks points difference. Hadn't realised that. Once you've decided the group winner, yep. Which is why we have to either win the pool or Scotland does. Only the very unlikely 5-1 result I mentioned sees us come second, otherwise we're either pool winners...
- Tue Oct 03, 2023 1:38 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Is OomSB a traitor?
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Re: Is OomSB a traitor?
I'm confused - if Scotland win, South Africa will almost certainly top the pool, won't they? As far as I can see it's mathematically impossible for South Africa to be knocked out now... Ah. You've missed the fun hypothetical discussion on PR! If Scotland win 5-1 and by 21 points or more then SA get...
- Tue Sep 26, 2023 9:06 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The best new and returning TV series thread
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Re: The best new and returning TV series thread
I think that's slightly unfair on the acting and racist front. The world had already been defined so adding this sprinkling of newness jars. As noted by great minds like mine they should have had a race of elves or dwarves that were black. Your eyes and brain would go ahhh yeah OK I can make sense ...
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:33 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
- Replies: 143
- Views: 7662
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:24 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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- Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:15 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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- Tue Aug 08, 2023 1:07 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
I prove your point by replying calmly?
Given my whole point was we're getting it because we're at the top, you're really flailing with your 'if it was NZ' line.
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:58 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
Imagining something doesn't make it so.
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 12:08 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
Tackling and holding players beyond the ruck in offense flopping on the tackled player in defense and never rolling away. You're having a laugh if you don't think every team does this but we've gotten squeaky clean on the rolling away, more so than other sides, ever since Barnes kept fúcking us ove...
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 11:41 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
I don't know, i reckon an example of an Irish team being reffed correctly at the breakdown and not being able to deal with it is pretty good. That had absolutely nothing to do with it and actually does LAR a disservice to suggest so. It was a massive factor in the game. ROG knows the Irish tactics ...
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:43 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
The point was that it was Munster, not Ireland, getting the flak in the 00s. Because Munster were a target, being one of the top sides. Then Leinster started getting it, not Ireland, because they were one of the top sides. Then Ireland started getting it as we cemented our place near the top and ha...
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:23 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
- Replies: 143
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
I'd go as far to say that if Munster & Leinster were never part of European competition, Ireland would've received 5% of the complaints - you cannot separate these sides from the national team and people are already primed to expect what they perceive as bullshit. You see, with every post you p...
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:11 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
- Replies: 143
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
Let's be clear the Irish Technique at the ruck is old hat now and getting old with other nations. Time for a crack down . :yawn: Go on then - explain what the "Irish Technique" is to me and how its so different to what every other team is doing? :crazy: Players do what the refs let them g...
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 10:08 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
- Replies: 143
- Views: 7662
Re: The Irish getting over confident
I'd go as far to say that if Munster & Leinster were never part of European competition, Ireland would've received 5% of the complaints - you cannot separate these sides from the national team and people are already primed to expect what they perceive as bullshit. You see, with every post you p...
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:30 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
- Replies: 143
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
Sorry, I call bullshit JMK. You extrapolated from Munster, who did get a lot of flak when they were at the top of their game, to Ireland. It's the only reason Quinlan would make sense. A guy who has one cap off the bench against England in his entire career and 7 starts over 9 years against top tier...
- Tue Aug 08, 2023 9:05 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
Christ alive this is insufferable even for you. The entire point was that no, Ireland aren't getting this just because they're good. They've been getting this criticism for years before they were any good. Whether the complaints are true or not are a) irrelevant to that point and b) of no interest ...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 10:25 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
If that's aimed at me then I can only repeat that I couldn't give a shit and I wasn't talking about whether the complaints are true or not, maybe this time you'll get it? Ok, we're doing a post truth thing. Gotcha. Christ alive this is insufferable even for you. The entire point was that no, Irelan...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:54 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
Ok, we're doing a post truth thing. Gotcha.
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 8:38 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
It's funny an Italian would complain about obstruction, you'd think they'd keep their mouth shut after what they got away with. That said, the Doris one is hilarious. How the ref missed it is bizarre. First one is equally illegal but being charitable to the ref, he let it go as it was pretty immater...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 7:08 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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- Mon Aug 07, 2023 5:52 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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- Views: 7662
Re: The Irish getting over confident
So every ref has been wrong and you're right?
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:59 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
Is it my turn to use laughing thingys? The penalty count was 11/8. We got plenty of turnovers at the breakdown even with LAR's constant onslaught, which is why we were still in it at the end. LAR beat us by being relentless and efficient, putting pressure on our exits and forcing us into our shell....
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:48 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
I don't know, i reckon an example of an Irish team being reffed correctly at the breakdown and not being able to deal with it is pretty good. That had absolutely nothing to do with it and actually does LAR a disservice to suggest so. Is it my turn to use laughing thingys? The penalty count was 11/8...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:36 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
That had absolutely nothing to do with it and actually does LAR a disservice to suggest so.
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:34 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
- Replies: 143
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
Regardless of the truth of the matter, there's no way this is a "NZ used to get it, now we're getting it because we're number one" scenario. Ireland's approach to the breakdown and "success" has been a topic of much debate for a long time, well before Ireland got good. So what's...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:33 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
This. The European games were reffed properly and we saw the results. I think we all hoped that was refs finally growing balls and being directed to focus on the cheating but the weekend suggests it was just a one off, sadly. You're using the final as your proof? :lol: :lol: Yes Well that's a bit s...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:27 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
- Replies: 143
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
It's ridiculous to suggest we get away with stuff at the breakdown more than anyone else (on average). No it isn't. You only have to glance at the breakdown to see Irish players cheating. It's endemic. This. The European games were reffed properly and we saw the results. I think we all hoped that w...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:24 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
- Replies: 143
- Views: 7662
Re: The Irish getting over confident
Regardless of the truth of the matter, there's no way this is a "NZ used to get it, now we're getting it because we're number one" scenario. Ireland's approach to the breakdown and "success" has been a topic of much debate for a long time, well before Ireland got good. So what's...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 1:43 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
- Replies: 143
- Views: 7662
Re: The Irish getting over confident
It's ridiculous to suggest we get away with stuff at the breakdown more than anyone else (on average). In general you will miss the stuff your own team does and zone in on the opposition or teams you don't like. NZ had it for years as number 1 and we're getting it now. It's pure bias and the concept...
- Mon Aug 07, 2023 9:44 am
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: The Irish getting over confident
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Re: The Irish getting over confident
Ire continue to be the master cheats at the breakdown and it really requires decent reffing to deal with it: unlike Raynal not yellowing the blatant and cynical infringements at the end there. The usual cop out of "well, the underdog was going to lose anyway, so it doesn't matter". Intere...
- Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:49 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Gulf stream goooooonnnnnnneeeee
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- Sun Aug 06, 2023 7:44 pm
- Forum: The Bear Pit
- Topic: Gulf stream goooooonnnnnnneeeee
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Re: Gulf stream goooooonnnnnnneeeee
I think when the sea is getting hotter than a bath, something's going wrong.
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But whether it's bullshit or not, the drive towards cleaner energy is clearly beneficial to humankind.