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but the idea we've increased the spend on the NHS is offensively stupid, we've cut funding and we've delayed investment so just to get back to where we could have been will now be a lengthened and more expensive process. It’s neither offensive nor stupid. Cash, real, vs GDP, vs population the budge...

“The wrong 350 million” Clowns . By the way dpedin, we have funded in any real term measure (not just cash terms ) higher than Blair’s 2005 budget every year since 2010,, that’s a simple fact. And of course perversely as GDP has plummeted our NHS spend is now as a % of that figure massively improve...

“The wrong 350 million” Clowns . By the way dpedin, we have funded in any real term measure (not just cash terms ) higher than Blair’s 2005 budget every year since 2010,, that’s a simple fact. And of course perversely as GDP has plummeted our NHS spend is now as a % of that figure massively improve...

Truss even with her proscribed limitations has done a fantastic job in the last year with trade deals.

Remember many posters claimed the UK would be North Korea.

That’s your comparison here to the critics.

“The wrong 350 million” Clowns . By the way dpedin, we have funded in any real term measure (not just cash terms ) higher than Blair’s 2005 budget every year since 2010,, that’s a simple fact. And of course perversely as GDP has plummeted our NHS spend is now as a % of that figure massively improved...

When the virus first emerged there wasn't lots known about its level or routes of transmission, Gov initial reaction was to treat it like the flu, which is very different. Mistakes were made. We are still learning and hence all the latest research emerging on aerosol transmission and the need to fo...

There’s just a presentation of statistics , there’s nothing “contrarian “ about actual statistics. The only “reasoning” here is yours with a total misunderstanding of death certification in the UK. OK, how am I misunderstanding them? Careful you dont get dragged down the Bimbotwat rabbit hole ... b...

Addressing your second point on lockdowns becoming a more common tool - sure. Politics fights the last war. Had SARS/swine flu etc hit us harder we'd have responded differently to covid from the start. Successive British Governments post-war placed huge priority (probably mistakenly) on food securi...

:geek: Not really. That appears to be statistical analysis by somebody who doesn't actually know how death certificates work - they usually list a sequence of causes and events that lead to death. For example, if you have an unfortunate accident with a chainsaw, the underlying cause will be the cha...

Addressing your second point on lockdowns becoming a more common tool - sure. Politics fights the last war. Had SARS/swine flu etc hit us harder we'd have responded differently to covid from the start. Successive British Governments post-war placed huge priority (probably mistakenly) on food securi...

:geek: Not really. That appears to be statistical analysis by somebody who doesn't actually know how death certificates work - they usually list a sequence of causes and events that lead to death. For example, if you have an unfortunate accident with a chainsaw, the underlying cause will be the chai...

I don't like lockdowns but there isn't a viable alternative, and the economic case for reopening early is shaky, to say the least. Once you’ve decided to start lockdowns and decided that’s the only method there’s no alternatives, which is why I say they’ll be a tool for politics for a long time now...

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:18 am
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 11:15 am Thanks for helping to clarify the spending
That was Boris' lyin'

No, that the 350 million a week post brexit was already in place and in fact a larger figure is being spent.

If I am getting this correctly Johnson is saying case numbers going to matter just as much as hospitalizations and deaths in terms of lifting restrictions: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EuQ1aLaWgAEIFvf?format=png&name=small The return to school will come with the mandatory testing (presented as m...

Despite the witterings of these idiots, the general public are heavily in favour of maintaining restrictions until the virus is under control. The last thing people want is to have to go into lockdown again later in the year just because restrictions were lifted too early. https://pbs.twimg.com/med...

give the NHS an extra £350m a week :crazy: Of course they also knew the pandemic was imminent so any COVID spending was clearly implied in the £350pw too :lolno: and if they'd spend the £350pw extra on the NHS as you say, then why did they put so much effort into denying it? Thanks for helping to c...

Let's not kid ourselves - any relaxation of restrictions will be gradual so as to observe the impact of each relaxation. It's also worth noting that for all the good news - high vax rates, falling death rates, falling infection rates, the total numbers in hospital being treated for Covid is still h...

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:48 am
Saint wrote: ↑Mon Feb 15, 2021 10:37 am ongoing distancing measures
I have doubts that the Govt will keep these going, especially when it comes to face coverings.

One can only hope.

Ok lets say its reasonable to anticipate all 'vulnerable adults' getting at least one dose by March 25 with the top 4 groups having also had the second dose. Add 3 weeks for the vaccination to take affect then we can think about really relaxing restrictions in Mid April. Vaccinate the rest of the p...

Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Fri Feb 12, 2021 4:55 pm 20210212_165419.jpg

Currently the extra monies to the NHS is multiples of the 350 million, even when covid spending is over its way more than 350.

So the NHS is better off by more than 350 million a week. It’s great watching IH confirm this though.

I see Steve Baker MP, fresh from the mountain of research he did to support the case for the triumph of Brexit, has now turned his keen analytical mind to conclude that the best way forward for everyone is to do away with any legislation restrictions relating to Covid before the Spring is out. Desp...

Unless Tindall is not a director of his company he would not be entitled to furlough himself.

Yes he can be a director and receive furlough.

There's a huge difference between the reality of immigration and the beliefs of Brexiteers. “I know the beliefs of others”. "I know the beliefs of others, because large numbers of them have explained those beliefs in great detail" “Large numbers” —— “more than 4 , less than 20”. Seriously...

It seems the public are uninterested in the obvious corruption scandals. And the papers can't be bothered reporting on it past the FT and Guardian who have low readerships. Its the courts who will decide if this is important not the readers of the FT and Guardian. Good Law Project have actions unde...

ASMO wrote: ↑Fri Feb 05, 2021 11:49 am I suspect you would find a great many more who voted leave originally who would now vote to remain than the other way around.

Polls suggest the absolute opposite.

Sharp as a tack.

JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:36 pm
Slick wrote: ↑Thu Feb 04, 2021 7:16 pm JM, you spent a fair bit of time on the old bored telling me Brexit had nothing to do with immigration
There's a huge difference between the reality of immigration and the beliefs of Brexiteers.

“I know the beliefs of others”.

Covid19 is a sneaky fucker. No way the first vaccines we developed are going to keep up with early virus mutations. We'll all just have to be patient and more than a bit lucky... :sad: A vaccine for the common cold ? No one said this was easy. For perspective though, the variants are different by 1...

This is confusing.....

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... masks.html

Medical grade masks ? What is this magic.?

Another Valance spin...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... rains.html

You're going to need to back that statement up with some actual facts. It’s from the Retired Middle Class Morons with Money Facebook page. How can you compare places like San Marino or Gibraltar with a pop: 30k and the UK ? Makes you feel good? Between this thread and the Brexit, PCphil- Openside- ...

I hope that nice Mr Shapps has some answers ready? Ministers are at the centre of an explosive row over their failure to protect workers from Covid-19 as the Observer reveals the largest workplace outbreak of the virus has taken place at a top government organisation. More than 500 cases have been ...

The only guaranteed grift here is Jolyons latest scam law cases. I dearly hope IH sends money into the crowd funding. When unable to deal with facts, it predictably returns to fail safe fall back of the ad hominem attack :clap: What’s the “attack”here, I’m confused , unless of course I’m right.

Not wanting to downplay how bad it being in the UK but I am curious to see if the way deaths are recorded here (Deaths with COVID-19 on the death certificate) are compared to how figures are reached in other nations. In GDP terms the UK was looking like it had the worse hit economy but in turns out...

If there has been a direct award with no competition, they will need to provide a very clear justification as to why this was done. They follow this procedure. https://goodlawproject.org/news/special-procurement-channels/ Leaked documents seen by Good Law Project set out special pathways by which “...

He’s deliberately mis quoted the statistic from the study btw. I’ll let you work it out. Your mattress will be soaking later I guess, You lied. Repeatedly. Own it. If you mean me - I didn't misquote anything - all I did was copy Daily Torygraph headline and link to twitter thread. Contact the Toryg...

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:37 pm
Bimbowomxn wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:29 pm
Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:24 pm Long Covid is a lie! Not even a thing

He’s deliberately mis quoted the statistic from the study btw. I’ll let you work it out.

Your mattress will be soaking later I guess,
You lied. Repeatedly. Own it.

I’m not lying about anything, however you’re a bed wetter,

It was a success in terms of selling the Brexit deal to low-information voters though. Deal done, no tariffs, free trade, mission accomplished, etc. But it's shameful how many people who's business actually involves daily, just-in-time trade with the EU were taken in by it. :crazy: Business like th...

Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Jan 18, 2021 8:24 pm Long Covid is a lie! Not even a thing

He’s deliberately mis quoted the statistic from the study btw. I’ll let you work it out.

Your mattress will be soaking later I guess,

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