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by Random1
Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:48 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Yeah, your definition of ‘far right’ is not exactly reliable. Calling everyone that doesn’t agree with your position an idiot is just boring. We’ve had this conversation so many times. I’ll say that you’re ad hominem attacking her and not dealing with her points (same as you do with Douglas). You’l...
by Random1
Sat Aug 17, 2024 2:40 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

There isn't a far right grifter alive that you're not willing to deep throat. But hey, at least she's marginally better than your previous fave, Douglas Murray. I have listened to her repeatedly, on TV, on twitter, in the papers, which is why I know she's a fucking moron and a raging bigot. She's a...
by Random1
Thu Aug 15, 2024 9:04 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Ol'Birbalsingh is an absolute joke. Successful headteacher, but repeatedly shitting the bed in order to appeal to the further-right and feed her need for attention and validation is not a good look. For someone who must be quite smart, she says a lot of really dumb shit quite regularly. It's as if ...
by Random1
Mon Aug 12, 2024 9:54 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Ol'Birbalsingh is an absolute joke. Successful headteacher, but repeatedly shitting the bed in order to appeal to the further-right and feed her need for attention and validation is not a good look. For someone who must be quite smart, she says a lot of really dumb shit quite regularly. It's as if ...
by Random1
Sun Aug 11, 2024 8:39 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

We should care about both. Not to labour the point but these riots started because the child of an asylum seeker murdered white children in cold blood, a week or so after a man who I understand was born in Nigeria stabbed an army officer to death in cold blood in Kent. Clearly there is an issue of ...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 8:04 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Whilst there may be, that’s not what I’ve said! It's exactly what you said A female teacher with a passion for English lit is likely to be passionate about different areas of it to a male one. It could be different from one person to the next, but you explicitly mentioned male and female as being t...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 6:25 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Feminisation of the education sector is so blindingly obvious, it takes something akin to motivated reasoning to pretend it hasn’t happened. The quote was Everything from school curricula through to football has been feminised School curricula are the subjects studied. Boyle's Law is Boyle's Law wh...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 5:26 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

I was referring to the masculinity being deemed toxic point rather than fear of being labelled racist. On the point about that fear of being seen as racist though, I'd expect that fear will have played some part. Clearly that is a problem. I'd suggest that it may be a little more complex than that ...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:04 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Can’t say I know enough about Tito. I’d say Singapore is a good example for us - English speaking, common law (to an extent) etc. Their social contract is wildly different to ours. Break the law as a foreigner and you’re out of there. Riot if you’re the ethnic majority and you’re in serious shit. N...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 3:02 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Not sure I agree with that Random I'm a straight white male. Not outwardly an ally of anything. Definitely don't go anywhere near the he/him pronoun stuff ect. I'm pretty far form the 'woke/antifa' end of the spectrum as it's painted in the online discourse. I've never felt that my presence is toxi...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:47 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

A functional multi ethnic state requires a degree on authoritarianism we are going to find very uncomfortable, yes You mean like a Tito, Yugoslavian type dynamic? Can’t say I know enough about Tito. I’d say Singapore is a good example for us - English speaking, common law (to an extent) etc. Their ...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 12:43 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

I think it needs a more interventionist state. Not necessarily a more authoritarian one. The bad actors part of this is huge. As you've had two attacks resulting in murders on a demographic who have then held riots against a third demographic who weren't involved. What sort of intervention you thin...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 11:05 am
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

A functional multi ethnic state requires a degree on authoritarianism we are going to find very uncomfortable, yes You got time to expand on that? As I’m of the exact opposite view. But I’m not sure why! 😂 I think it needs a more interventionist state. Not necessarily a more authoritarian one. The ...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:40 am
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

We should care about both. Not to labour the point but these riots started because the child of an asylum seeker murdered white children in cold blood, a week or so after a man who I understand was born in Nigeria stabbed an army officer to death in cold blood in Kent. Clearly there is an issue of ...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:25 am
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

PB just to add, I take your point that for whatever reason white people are disturbed by changes in demography but I can tell you all 3 of my daughters who look 100% white are anxious about the future in a country with visibly increasing xenophobia and now open racism. Who should we care more about...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:18 am
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Literally just being a straight white male is offensive, unless you choose to be an active ally, even if you don’t agree that straight, white male privilege exists. Ostracising a large chunk of the population increases the risk that a large enough number of low IQ idiots can be rallied by bad actor...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:16 am
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

epwc wrote: Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:36 am Lack of education is no excuse, I left school at 16 with 5 O levels
Big difference between low education and low IQ.
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 10:16 am
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Not sure I agree with that Random I'm a straight white male. Not outwardly an ally of anything. Definitely don't go anywhere near the he/him pronoun stuff ect. I'm pretty far form the 'woke/antifa' end of the spectrum as it's painted in the online discourse. I've never felt that my presence is toxi...
by Random1
Tue Aug 06, 2024 9:16 am
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

It’s worth looking at the migration figures from the 1950s to realise just how mythologised the Windrush generation is compared to the reality. What has happened over the last few years is roughly tenfold larger. And yes, I’m using net migration figures You said demographic transformation, so I ass...
by Random1
Mon Aug 05, 2024 8:46 am
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The Official Cricket Thread
Replies: 8640
Views: 373116

Re: The Official Cricket Thread

By far my favourite England batsman of that era. What a shit piece of news. Best wishes to his family and friends.
by Random1
Sun Aug 04, 2024 3:02 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Two points on this - 1) what PeteJ says is one of the things that really grates on me. ‘Oh yes it’s awful there’s so many men in x’ never means taking money and opportunities away from them and their mates, it’s about taking them away from the people below them, generally with a ‘won’t matter, I’ll...
by Random1
Sun Aug 04, 2024 2:14 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Anyone one else find it grating listening to a male dominated old senior management team bullshitting on about sexism and racism while comfortably being the biggest beneficiaries of it? Same as priests in any traditional religion - they’re repeating the dogma, regardless of the hypocrisy it implies...
by Random1
Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:36 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Official Paris Olympics 2024 thread
Replies: 693
Views: 19350

Re: Official Paris Olympics 2024 thread

Oooohhhh, let’s swap individual papers! https://academic.oup.com/icb/article/63/4/891/7157109?login=false Yeah, my paper’s much better than yours though, and represents the majority viewpoint. So are we saying that an effeminate gay man with low testosterone is actually more female than a butch wom...
by Random1
Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:30 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Anyone one else find it grating listening to a male dominated old senior management team bullshitting on about sexism and racism while comfortably being the biggest beneficiaries of it? Same as priests in any traditional religion - they’re repeating the dogma, regardless of the hypocrisy it implies.
by Random1
Sat Aug 03, 2024 3:19 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Official Paris Olympics 2024 thread
Replies: 693
Views: 19350

Re: Official Paris Olympics 2024 thread

Aye it is. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/36543364/ Oooohhhh, let’s swap individual papers! https://academic.oup.com/icb/article/63/4/891/7157109?login=false Yeah, my paper’s much better than yours though, and represents the majority viewpoint. So are we saying that an effeminate gay man with low ...
by Random1
Sat Aug 03, 2024 1:00 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Angry White Men
Replies: 462
Views: 16283

Re: Angry White Men

Quite a significant nub lurking in this one, to effect those parties (however dishonest, venal and self serving) freely discuss matters that the more mainstream ones won't touch. And your point will always resonate far better in a simmering febrile vacuum than one where the conversation's out in th...
by Random1
Thu Aug 01, 2024 6:03 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Official Paris Olympics 2024 thread
Replies: 693
Views: 19350

Re: Official Paris Olympics 2024 thread

Exactly. The number and variety of conditions involved here automatically precludes simple black and white decisions. This all goes back to the idea that sex is 100% binary. That’s factually untrue and some people are very uncomfortable with that. It’s not factually untrue. Aye it is. https://pubme...
by Random1
Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:46 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: Official Paris Olympics 2024 thread
Replies: 693
Views: 19350

Re: Official Paris Olympics 2024 thread

This Isn't an intersex boxer likely to do more damage to an opponent far under Olympic standard? Exactly. The number and variety of conditions involved here automatically precludes simple black and white decisions. This all goes back to the idea that sex is 100% binary. That’s factually untrue and ...
by Random1
Sat Jul 13, 2024 9:14 am
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: All Blacks Vs England Test Series and Fiji Exhibition matchthread
Replies: 422
Views: 7189

Re: All Blacks Vs England Test Series thread

If Genge or Marler had been fit, it would have helped, but losing Furbank really hurt us a lot. Yeah,, I’m taking the positive approach on that; at least we have solved first choice picks at 9 and 15. Been years since we could say that. Wings look dangerous. Fairly deep at 10. Baxter adds depth to ...
by Random1
Wed Jul 10, 2024 4:58 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

Here’s Stewart talking through some of the issues.

He discusses the civil service and other aspects, and his overall thoughts are quite fucking depressing! 😂

by Random1
Wed Jul 10, 2024 11:33 am
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

I agree that the crucial part of the equation that both are missing, is that a competent government would have solved this issue if they felt it was a stopping them. I do think there’s some truth that the quangos hold a too much power, as much of the implementation of things like the equalities act ...
by Random1
Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:51 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

Oh, and if you want to hear from the horse’s mouth, here’s the lady herself https://youtu.be/fPwqsrI0L8Y?si=rbji6uMnFjwvQDLh She starts talking about it from 10 minutes onwards. I think she’s a cretin, but some of the stuff she talks about in terms of quangos does mirror what I see in my own line o...
by Random1
Tue Jul 09, 2024 6:49 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

Reckon he’s racist, but he’s not a fuckwit. He’s smart. I don't think you can be both racist and smart. I have listened to plenty of his pompous utterances over the years, he knows lots of big words, speaks very clearly and comes across as super intelligent and knowledgeable. That doesn't mean he i...
by Random1
Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:34 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

Oh, and if you want to hear from the horse’s mouth, here’s the lady herself https://youtu.be/fPwqsrI0L8Y?si=rbji6uMnFjwvQDLh She starts talking about it from 10 minutes onwards. I think she’s a cretin, but some of the stuff she talks about in terms of quangos does mirror what I see in my own line of...
by Random1
Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:21 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

I got 10 minutes in or so, and yes, he's making the same complaints, just being more of an ass and a bore about it. So the poor Tories couldn't do what they want because other people didn't let them. It's all someone else's fault. In theory then, Labour shouldn't be able to do any better, and we're...
by Random1
Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:12 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

So being bored and wondering if it'll be a bit of a giggle, I've started to watch the PopCon conference on youtube https://www.youtube.com/live/X5CPSZZZ6h0 First proper speaker, representing popcon, has basically just said it's not the tories fault that they didn't manage deliver the values of lowe...
by Random1
Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:07 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

I got 10 minutes in or so, and yes, he's making the same complaints, just being more of an ass and a bore about it. So the poor Tories couldn't do what they want because other people didn't let them. It's all someone else's fault. In theory then, Labour shouldn't be able to do any better, and we're...
by Random1
Tue Jul 09, 2024 4:01 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

epwc wrote: Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:31 pm Dr David Starkey is a racist fuckwit
Reckon he’s racist, but he’s not a fuckwit. He’s smart.

And worth a listen if you want to understand the other side of the argument.
by Random1
Tue Jul 09, 2024 2:22 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

So being bored and wondering if it'll be a bit of a giggle, I've started to watch the PopCon conference on youtube https://www.youtube.com/live/X5CPSZZZ6h0 First proper speaker, representing popcon, has basically just said it's not the tories fault that they didn't manage deliver the values of lowe...
by Random1
Tue Jul 09, 2024 12:46 pm
Forum: The Bear Pit
Topic: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4
Replies: 1879
Views: 59450

Re: The one and only UK 2024 election thread - July 4

No still not getting it, Men choose their jobs, they also choose whether to protect themselves properly at work. I can say from personal knowledge on building sites that it’s always a challenge to get blokes to wear PPE on site. They have chosen risky career paths and then to exacerbate that risk. ...