Alex has always been a graceless prick with a chip on his shoulder about Quins. He's made loads of comments about us in the past. He's also the guy who claimed that the criticism of Saracens' sustained cheating was just jealousy, so hey.
Why? What's the history?JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:11 pmAlex has always been a graceless prick with a chip on his shoulder about Quins. He's made loads of comments about us in the past. He's also the guy who claimed that the criticism of Saracens' sustained cheating was just jealousy, so hey.
I'm sure he'll thoroughly enjoy sale thrashing Quins' 2nd XV.
Couldn't tell you what caused it, but he's been a twat about Quins for years. Plus he's a massive cheat who showed absolutely no remorse so I would not be surprised if he thinks the only people who've done anything wrong are the ones who pointed out the cheating.SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:38 pmWhy? What's the history?JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:11 pmAlex has always been a graceless prick with a chip on his shoulder about Quins. He's made loads of comments about us in the past. He's also the guy who claimed that the criticism of Saracens' sustained cheating was just jealousy, so hey.
I'm sure he'll thoroughly enjoy sale thrashing Quins' 2nd XV.
Especially with the lightning fast service from Landajo
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:16 pmCouldn't tell you what caused it, but he's been a twat about Quins for years. Plus he's a massive cheat who showed absolutely no remorse so I would not be surprised if he thinks the only people who've done anything wrong are the ones who pointed out the cheating.SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:38 pmWhy? What's the history?JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 12:11 pm
Alex has always been a graceless prick with a chip on his shoulder about Quins. He's made loads of comments about us in the past. He's also the guy who claimed that the criticism of Saracens' sustained cheating was just jealousy, so hey.
I'm sure he'll thoroughly enjoy sale thrashing Quins' 2nd XV.
People like that loathe criticism.
FixedKawazaki wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:39 pmJM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:16 pmCouldn't tell you what caused it, but he's been a twat about Quins for years. Plus he's a massive cheat who showed absolutely no remorse so I would not be surprised if he thinks the only people who've done anything wrong are the ones who pointed out the cheating.
People like that loathe criticism.
People like that are called cunts.
Fixed again.laurent wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:43 pmFixedKawazaki wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:39 pmJM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:16 pm
Couldn't tell you what caused it, but he's been a twat about Quins for years. Plus he's a massive cheat who showed absolutely no remorse so I would not be surprised if he thinks the only people who've done anything wrong are the ones who pointed out the cheating.
People like that loathe criticism.
People like that are called cheating cunts.
Green needs the game time at 15.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 1:44 pm Did Marchant and Green pull a short straw to start this game? Expecting an ugly scoreline if Sale put out something resembling a full strength team.
It is, though equally not necessarily a first team, with Tom Curry rested, Hammersley brought back in, Quirke and James Jr rested and RJVR, Beaumont and Tuilagi coming back from injury. Rotation, bringing through the academy players (which, twat or not, Sanderson has been very successful at) and having a relatively small squad are playing dividends. The intention is clearly to secure second, so I'd expect there to be minimal rotation from now on. It'll be interesting to see who captains when Josh and Tom both play, I'd favour the former.ASMO wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:10 pm Sale: 15 Simon Hammersley, 14 Byron McGuigan, 13 Sam James, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Marland Yarde, 10 AJ MacGinty, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Daniel du Preez, 7 Ben Curry, 6 Cameron Neild, 5 Jean-Luc du Preez, 4 Josh Beaumont (c), 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Ross Harrison
Replacements: 16 Curtis Langdon, 17 Bevan Rodd, 18 Will-Griff John, 19 Jean-Pierre du Preez, 20 Jono Ross, 21 Will Cliff, 22 Robert du Preez, 23 Rohan Janse van Rensburg
Looks fairly strong to me.
ASMO wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:10 pm Sale: 15 Simon Hammersley, 14 Byron McGuigan, 13 Sam James, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Marland Yarde, 10 AJ MacGinty, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Daniel du Preez, 7 Ben Curry, 6 Cameron Neild, 5 Jean-Luc du Preez, 4 Josh Beaumont (c), 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Ross Harrison
Replacements: 16 Curtis Langdon, 17 Bevan Rodd, 18 Will-Griff John, 19 Jean-Pierre du Preez, 20 Jono Ross, 21 Will Cliff, 22 Robert du Preez, 23 Rohan Janse van Rensburg
Looks fairly strong to me.
During his Saracens career and appearance for Middlesex and the Barbarians he encountered racist abuse. On one occasion the then-Saracens captain Alex Keay threatened to take his team off if the referee Roger Quittenton didn’t do something to stop the abuse that Steadman and his black teammates were receiving. Playing for Middlesex, Steadman was racially abused by one of his own teammates. Crowds greeted Steadman and other black teammates with monkey chants and being stopped by police on his way home from training was a regular occurrence.
Manu withdrawn. Shame, I would have liked to have seen him running at the Harlequins midfield. Will have to put up with van Rensburg instead!ASMO wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:10 pm Sale: 15 Simon Hammersley, 14 Byron McGuigan, 13 Sam James, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Marland Yarde, 10 AJ MacGinty, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Daniel du Preez, 7 Ben Curry, 6 Cameron Neild, 5 Jean-Luc du Preez, 4 Josh Beaumont (c), 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Ross Harrison
Replacements: 16 Curtis Langdon, 17 Bevan Rodd, 18 Will-Griff John, 19 Jean-Pierre du Preez, 20 Jono Ross, 21 Will Cliff, 22 Robert du Preez, 23 Rohan Janse van Rensburg
Looks fairly strong to me.
Manu Tuilagi will not be featuring for Sale Sharks against Harlequins this evening after he was deemed to be close contact of a Sale Sharks staff member who has tested positive for Covid-19.
Tuilagi had been named in the starting XV by Alex Sanderson for the Premiership clash at AJ Bell Stadium, but a positive case among Sale’s backroom staff has led to the centre being withdrawn and told to self-isolate.
I don't think it's going to matter. Sale are better than Quins' first XV, let alone the 2nd XV.SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 3:46 pmManu withdrawn. Shame, I would have liked to have seen him running at the Harlequins midfield. Will have to put up with van Rensburg instead!ASMO wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:10 pm Sale: 15 Simon Hammersley, 14 Byron McGuigan, 13 Sam James, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Marland Yarde, 10 AJ MacGinty, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Daniel du Preez, 7 Ben Curry, 6 Cameron Neild, 5 Jean-Luc du Preez, 4 Josh Beaumont (c), 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Ross Harrison
Replacements: 16 Curtis Langdon, 17 Bevan Rodd, 18 Will-Griff John, 19 Jean-Pierre du Preez, 20 Jono Ross, 21 Will Cliff, 22 Robert du Preez, 23 Rohan Janse van Rensburg
Looks fairly strong to me.Manu Tuilagi will not be featuring for Sale Sharks against Harlequins this evening after he was deemed to be close contact of a Sale Sharks staff member who has tested positive for Covid-19.
Tuilagi had been named in the starting XV by Alex Sanderson for the Premiership clash at AJ Bell Stadium, but a positive case among Sale’s backroom staff has led to the centre being withdrawn and told to self-isolate.
They've adopted that fucking hateful trumpet call to make them feel at home, I see.Kawazaki wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 5:27 pmASMO wrote: ↑Thu Jun 03, 2021 2:10 pm Sale: 15 Simon Hammersley, 14 Byron McGuigan, 13 Sam James, 12 Manu Tuilagi, 11 Marland Yarde, 10 AJ MacGinty, 9 Faf de Klerk, 8 Daniel du Preez, 7 Ben Curry, 6 Cameron Neild, 5 Jean-Luc du Preez, 4 Josh Beaumont (c), 3 Coenie Oosthuizen, 2 Akker van der Merwe, 1 Ross Harrison
Replacements: 16 Curtis Langdon, 17 Bevan Rodd, 18 Will-Griff John, 19 Jean-Pierre du Preez, 20 Jono Ross, 21 Will Cliff, 22 Robert du Preez, 23 Rohan Janse van Rensburg
Looks fairly strong to me.
Christ almighty, how many Saffas in there?
SaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:37 pm Good article about Floyd Steadman, one of the pioneer 1st class black players in the 1980's and how he suffered racist abuseDuring his Saracens career and appearance for Middlesex and the Barbarians he encountered racist abuse. On one occasion the then-Saracens captain Alex Keay threatened to take his team off if the referee Roger Quittenton didn’t do something to stop the abuse that Steadman and his black teammates were receiving. Playing for Middlesex, Steadman was racially abused by one of his own teammates. Crowds greeted Steadman and other black teammates with monkey chants and being stopped by police on his way home from training was a regular occurrence.
Remember playing against him a couple of times when he was coming back from injury and playing for Sarries 2's. Bloody half decent player.
Pretty sure Kawasaki can tell us a bit more about him?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/ ... nd-lions
Of course, I forgot I'm somewhat older then youKawazaki wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:36 pmSaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:37 pm Good article about Floyd Steadman, one of the pioneer 1st class black players in the 1980's and how he suffered racist abuseDuring his Saracens career and appearance for Middlesex and the Barbarians he encountered racist abuse. On one occasion the then-Saracens captain Alex Keay threatened to take his team off if the referee Roger Quittenton didn’t do something to stop the abuse that Steadman and his black teammates were receiving. Playing for Middlesex, Steadman was racially abused by one of his own teammates. Crowds greeted Steadman and other black teammates with monkey chants and being stopped by police on his way home from training was a regular occurrence.
Remember playing against him a couple of times when he was coming back from injury and playing for Sarries 2's. Bloody half decent player.
Pretty sure Kawasaki can tell us a bit more about him?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/ ... nd-lions
Floyd was a bit before my time at Saracens. Brian Davies was scrumhalf when I was there and Ben Rudling who you'll likely know from Cheshunt was at 10. Really nice fella is Ben.
Yes, I recall Ben Rudling. Cheshunt had a bloody good backline over a number of years and qualified for the Middlesex Sevens finals at least twice if I remember corerectly.Yep - being released by Bath at end of season.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:54 pm Quins scrum has really bailed Smith out. Every kicker has a yips day once in a while, he's unfortunate it's come in a significant game.
On another note, Henry Thomas must nearly be done as a pro player. He's had rotten luck with injuries, but lately I've only seen him be a penalty magnet at the set piece which is kind of problematic for a prop...
Hasn't he signed for La Rochelle?inactionman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:19 pmYep - being released by Bath at end of season.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:54 pm Quins scrum has really bailed Smith out. Every kicker has a yips day once in a while, he's unfortunate it's come in a significant game.
On another note, Henry Thomas must nearly be done as a pro player. He's had rotten luck with injuries, but lately I've only seen him be a penalty magnet at the set piece which is kind of problematic for a prop...
He looked top notch in his early Bath days, but just not the same after all the injuries.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/57359193
Did you know David Choules?Kawazaki wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 10:36 pmSaintK wrote: ↑Fri Jun 04, 2021 12:37 pm Good article about Floyd Steadman, one of the pioneer 1st class black players in the 1980's and how he suffered racist abuseDuring his Saracens career and appearance for Middlesex and the Barbarians he encountered racist abuse. On one occasion the then-Saracens captain Alex Keay threatened to take his team off if the referee Roger Quittenton didn’t do something to stop the abuse that Steadman and his black teammates were receiving. Playing for Middlesex, Steadman was racially abused by one of his own teammates. Crowds greeted Steadman and other black teammates with monkey chants and being stopped by police on his way home from training was a regular occurrence.
Remember playing against him a couple of times when he was coming back from injury and playing for Sarries 2's. Bloody half decent player.
Pretty sure Kawasaki can tell us a bit more about him?
https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/ ... nd-lions
Floyd was a bit before my time at Saracens. Brian Davies was scrumhalf when I was there and Ben Rudling who you'll likely know from Cheshunt was at 10. Really nice fella is Ben.
That's certainly the rumour, I've not seen it confirmed yet?SaintK wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:37 pmHasn't he signed for La Rochelle?inactionman wrote: ↑Sat Jun 05, 2021 12:19 pmYep - being released by Bath at end of season.sockwithaticket wrote: ↑Sat May 29, 2021 2:54 pm Quins scrum has really bailed Smith out. Every kicker has a yips day once in a while, he's unfortunate it's come in a significant game.
On another note, Henry Thomas must nearly be done as a pro player. He's had rotten luck with injuries, but lately I've only seen him be a penalty magnet at the set piece which is kind of problematic for a prop...
He looked top notch in his early Bath days, but just not the same after all the injuries.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/57359193
