So, coronavirus...

[Sandstorm]

...........or maybe slightly before.
The shambles of a decision in not putting India on the red list immediately and letting 20k+ people in untracked and untraced in that period just beacause the blonde slug was still hoping that his high profile visit to India would still go ahead will cost us dear.

Almost 7% positive tests on people arriving from India in the weeks before the red list. It's a fine way to kickstart a new wave.

Coupled with the fact that the Asian community have already claimed that they were disproportionately affected by the financial aspects of Covid as most are self employed or small business owners. Expecting them to voluntarily self isolate was just bonkers.

Tax dodgers are also rule breakers non-shock.

[Biffer]

Out and out racism there.

[tc27]

He's going to pile on and then pull the carpet out from underneath people on the 20th,similar to the farce around Christmas.

Pretty sure Scotland will delay the additional opening up scheduled for the 7th across most of the country.

Lools like they key is getting as many vaccinated as quick as possible:



Wales is showing the way here..other parts of the UK should follow their lead.

FWIW The view from my friend in Scotland is that the blue letters are not working in the younger cohorts and its time to drop the branding excercise and copy the systems in place in Wales.

[SaintK]

So at last after weeks of dithering a dedicated terminal has been opened at Heathrow for direct flights from red list countries.
Though passemgers arriving from red list countries on connecting flights will still be allowed to mingle with everybody.
Better very late than never I guess. Though if the government had moved to fund it earlier Heathrow reckon Terminal 3 could have been taken out of mothballs a lot sooner!!!!

Heathrow has begun processing arrivals from red list countries in a dedicated terminal following concerns about them mixing with other passengers.
Travellers arriving from red list nations on direct flights are being taken to Terminal 3.
Passengers travelling to the UK on connecting flights from red list locations continue to transit through the airport alongside those from green and amber countries

[Slick]

Will be interesting to see what happens with COP26.

Can't see the FM allowing 1/4 million people from all round the world come to Glasgow in November. Can see Boris pushing it as far as he can, possibly even suggesting a change of venue.

Just can't see it happening at the moment.

[Sandstorm]

Out and out racism there.

I'm calling out all small business owners, not just the brown ones. You loon.

[Sandstorm]

Passengers travelling to the UK on connecting flights from red list locations

Astounding that this is still a thing......

[Saint]

So at last after weeks of dithering a dedicated terminal has been opened at Heathrow for direct flights from red list countries.
Though passemgers arriving from red list countries on connecting flights will still be allowed to mingle with everybody.
Better very late than never I guess. Though if the government had moved to fund it earlier Heathrow reckon Terminal 3 could have been taken out of mothballs a lot sooner!!!!

Heathrow has begun processing arrivals from red list countries in a dedicated terminal following concerns about them mixing with other passengers.
Travellers arriving from red list nations on direct flights are being taken to Terminal 3.
Passengers travelling to the UK on connecting flights from red list locations continue to transit through the airport alongside those from green and amber countries

Exactly- this has been all about funding. If they'd funded this earlier by now they'd have been out of T3 and ensconced in the long term red list terminal, T4. As it is, that stage is still a couple of months away

[GogLais]

He's going to pile on and then pull the carpet out from underneath people on the 20th,similar to the farce around Christmas.

Pretty sure Scotland will delay the additional opening up scheduled for the 7th across most of the country.

Lools like they key is getting as many vaccinated as quick as possible:



Wales is showing the way here..other parts of the UK should follow their lead.

FWIW The view from my friend in Scotland is that the blue letters are not working in the younger cohorts and its time to drop the branding excercise and copy the systems in place in Wales.

There was something about this on the radio. What Wales are doing is getting vaccine into people ASAP, on a sort of just in time basis. It’s worked so far, the risk they’re taking is that if there’s a supply problem people won’t get their second jab within however many weeks it should be.

[Biffer]

Out and out racism there.

I'm calling out all small business owners, not just the brown ones. You loon.

Sure, that's what it came over as.

[Sandstorm]

Out and out racism there.

I'm calling out all small business owners, not just the brown ones. You loon.

Sure, that's what it came over as.

That's your problem, then.

[Rinkals]

I'm calling out all small business owners, not just the brown ones. You loon.

Sure, that's what it came over as.

That's your problem, then.

The context of your remark was in relation to most Asians being 'self-employed or small business owners'.

Coupled with the fact that the Asian community have already claimed that they were disproportionately affected by the financial aspects of Covid as most are self employed or small business owners. Expecting them to voluntarily self isolate was just bonkers.

Tax dodgers are also rule breakers non-shock.

If that wasn't what you were intending to convey, you should have made it clearer. I must say, that was how it came over to me, too, but I was prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt.

[Calculon]

Interesting experiment in Brazil where a whole town was vaccinated to see what percentage of adults need to be vaccinated to contain covid infections

The city was divided into four areas to help determine the threshold for containing the virus. The team said this was achieved after three areas, or about 75% of the population over the age of 18, had been given both doses.

When 95% of adults were fully vaccinated, they said the results showed that:

Deaths fell by 95%
Hospitalisations fell by 86%
Symptomatic cases fell by 80%

Ricardo Palacios, research director at Butantan, said the key figure was the 75%.

"The most important result is that we can control the pandemic without having to vaccinate the whole population," he said.

Mr Palacios also said there was a decline in the number of cases among children and teenagers, who had not been vaccinated. This could indicate that there was no need to vaccinate children for schools to reopen, he said

The experiment in Serrana was the first of its kind in the world, its authors said. There were no reports of severe side effects from the vaccine and no Covid-related deaths among those who had been vaccinated 14 days after the second shot was applied, the results showed.

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https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57309538

[Sandstorm]

Interesting experiment in Brazil where a whole town was vaccinated to see what percentage of adults need to be vaccinated to contain covid infections

The city was divided into four areas to help determine the threshold for containing the virus. The team said this was achieved after three areas, or about 75% of the population over the age of 18, had been given both doses.

When 95% of adults were fully vaccinated, they said the results showed that:

Deaths fell by 95%
Hospitalisations fell by 86%
Symptomatic cases fell by 80%

Ricardo Palacios, research director at Butantan, said the key figure was the 75%.

"The most important result is that we can control the pandemic without having to vaccinate the whole population," he said.

Mr Palacios also said there was a decline in the number of cases among children and teenagers, who had not been vaccinated. This could indicate that there was no need to vaccinate children for schools to reopen, he said

The experiment in Serrana was the first of its kind in the world, its authors said. There were no reports of severe side effects from the vaccine and no Covid-related deaths among those who had been vaccinated 14 days after the second shot was applied, the results showed.

.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57309538

There'll be an absolute clamour by the remaining anti-vaxers to demand they be part of the 25% who get excluded from jabs. Whether we should trust Brazil's science-type guys at this time is also up for debate.

[tc27]

Despite rises in cases zero deaths recorded today in the UK (and zero in England yesterday too) and hospitilations remaining flattish.

[Calculon]

Interesting experiment in Brazil where a whole town was vaccinated to see what percentage of adults need to be vaccinated to contain covid infections

The city was divided into four areas to help determine the threshold for containing the virus. The team said this was achieved after three areas, or about 75% of the population over the age of 18, had been given both doses.

When 95% of adults were fully vaccinated, they said the results showed that:

Deaths fell by 95%
Hospitalisations fell by 86%
Symptomatic cases fell by 80%

Ricardo Palacios, research director at Butantan, said the key figure was the 75%.

"The most important result is that we can control the pandemic without having to vaccinate the whole population," he said.

Mr Palacios also said there was a decline in the number of cases among children and teenagers, who had not been vaccinated. This could indicate that there was no need to vaccinate children for schools to reopen, he said

The experiment in Serrana was the first of its kind in the world, its authors said. There were no reports of severe side effects from the vaccine and no Covid-related deaths among those who had been vaccinated 14 days after the second shot was applied, the results showed.

.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-57309538

There'll be an absolute clamour by the remaining anti-vaxers to demand they be part of the 25% who get excluded from jabs. Whether we should trust Brazil's science-type guys at this time is also up for debate.

First Asians, now Brazilians, you're on a bit of a roll. Scientific research is incredibly multinational and I'm sure there would be many nationalities involved in this particular bit of research. One of my former colleagues, an excellent researcher on probiotics, went to do research at a Brazilian institute. He is Bulgarian.

[Calculon]

Another iron in the fire

WHO approves Sinovac COVID-19 vaccine, 2nd Chinese-made dose listed

https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/medica ... ar-AAKBbYX

[Sandstorm]

Our Mumbai call centre has been decimated by Covid, dozens tested positive and isolating, several staff in hospital and the rest working from home (where possible as most use desktop PCs, not laptops and the office is closed so they can't dash in and take one home).

[fishfoodie]

Our Mumbai call centre has been decimated by Covid, dozens tested positive and isolating, several staff in hospital and the rest working from home (where possible as most use desktop PCs, not laptops and the office is closed so they can't dash in and take one home).

I'm hearing similar stuff from our ops there; & our people are lucky that they've been able to wfh thru this.

The media may have forgotten it; but a catastrophe is unfolding in India

[Marylandolorian]

Our Mumbai call centre has been decimated by Covid, dozens tested positive and isolating, several staff in hospital and the rest working from home (where possible as most use desktop PCs, not laptops and the office is closed so they can't dash in and take one home).

I'm hearing similar stuff from our ops there; & our people are lucky that they've been able to wfh thru this.

The media may have forgotten it; but a catastrophe is unfolding in India

Most of the medias I read/watch are estimating that at least 600 000 have died and over 4 millions have been infected. Beside the human toll, It will be catastrophic if the manufacturing industry dont have enough workers.

[Openside]

Out and out racism there.

I'm calling out all small business owners, not just the brown ones. You loon.

Stop it Sandstorm you are killing his virtual signalling buzz!

[BnM]

Just started work at 12. 30mins before decide to have a shower, so hair's still in turban, I can sit here in a towel, having a coffee, grumbling about the fecker trimming a tree/hedge/whatever outside so I can't have my windows open because dog, who I get to spend the day with. I'm loving this side effect of Covid.

[TB63]

Not loving the fact that I have a chest infection and running hot and cold sweats for last 4 days. Then being told to get a test everytime I phone my gp, even though I've had a negative result, still refusing to give me an appointment.

[Saint]

No new countries to be added to the Green list. It's believed that some may be removed, and there's a strong expectation that a number of countries will move from Amber to Red

Edit - now leaking that Portugal will move from Green to Amber

[Saint]

Moving to the Red list:

Afghanistan
Bahrain
Costa Rica
Egypt
Sudan
Trinidad and Tobago
Sri Lanka

[Slick]

No new countries to be added to the Green list. It's believed that some may be removed, and there's a strong expectation that a number of countries will move from Amber to Red

Edit - now leaking that Portugal will move from Green to Amber

fucking hell, just after allowing tens of thousands of people to go on holiday there and tens of thousands more with bookings. This is terrifyingly inept.

How on earth are Egypt and Sri Lanka only just going red!

[Sandstorm]

fucking hell, just after allowing tens of thousands of people to go on holiday there and tens of thousands more with bookings. This is terrifyingly inept.

Nope, it's par for the course for this lot and EXACLY what many of us said would happen. Stunning.


"But, but people need their overseas summer holidays or they'll riot....."

[Slick]

fucking hell, just after allowing tens of thousands of people to go on holiday there and tens of thousands more with bookings. This is terrifyingly inept.

Nope, it's par for the course for this lot and EXACLY what many of us said would happen. Stunning.


"But, but people need their overseas summer holidays or they'll riot....."

It was so obvious it would happen!

[BnM]

Awwww shit no, not Afghanistan.

[SaintK]

Out and out racism there.

I'm calling out all small business owners, not just the brown ones. You loon.

Stop it Sandstorm you are killing his virtual signalling buzz!

What's he virtually signalling?

[Openside]

I'm calling out all small business owners, not just the brown ones. You loon.

Stop it Sandstorm you are killing his virtual signalling buzz!

What's he virtually signalling?

His readiness to call out racism where none exists (as Sandstorm pointed out)

[Openside]

fucking hell, just after allowing tens of thousands of people to go on holiday there and tens of thousands more with bookings. This is terrifyingly inept.

Nope, it's par for the course for this lot and EXACLY what many of us said would happen. Stunning.


"But, but people need their overseas summer holidays or they'll riot....."

Its not quite as simple as that there are airlines and companies that obviously would be better to survive the pandemic and we need to open up as soon as possible etc. What I don't understand is if there is a reason to put a country on the red list it should happen immediately not with a weeks notice to allow every diseased decker to jump on a plane back to the UK without quarantining...

[SaintK]

Stop it Sandstorm you are killing his virtual signalling buzz!

What's he virtually signalling?

His readiness to call out racism where none exists (as Sandstorm pointed out)

...............ah, I thought that was called virtue signalling

[Openside]

What's he virtually signalling?

His readiness to call out racism where none exists (as Sandstorm pointed out)

...............ah, I thought that was called virtue signalling

Erm it is

[SaintK]

His readiness to call out racism where none exists (as Sandstorm pointed out)

...............ah, I thought that was called virtue signalling

Erm it is

Got it, your original post was an amusing typo then??

[Raggs]

I thought it came across as racist too. Quoted post was clearly talking about Asians.

[Saint]

fucking hell, just after allowing tens of thousands of people to go on holiday there and tens of thousands more with bookings. This is terrifyingly inept.

Nope, it's par for the course for this lot and EXACLY what many of us said would happen. Stunning.


"But, but people need their overseas summer holidays or they'll riot....."

Its not quite as simple as that there are airlines and companies that obviously would be better to survive the pandemic and we need to open up as soon as possible etc. What I don't understand is if there is a reason to put a country on the red list it should happen immediately not with a weeks notice to allow every diseased decker to jump on a plane back to the UK without quarantining...

It's not quite that bad - no country is moving from Green to Red. The countries moving to Red are moving from Amber, so it's moving from isolation to quarantine

[Enzedder]

fucking hell, just after allowing tens of thousands of people to go on holiday there and tens of thousands more with bookings. This is terrifyingly inept.

Nope, it's par for the course for this lot and EXACLY what many of us said would happen. Stunning.


"But, but people need their overseas summer holidays or they'll riot....."

Did the holiday makers infect the place?

[tabascoboy]

2nd jab done (AZ)! Hurt a bit more than the first one did...no waiting for the 15 mins unless you are driving.

[JM2K6]

I thought it came across as racist too. Quoted post was clearly talking about Asians.

Yep. Not exactly subtle.