Springbokke next 4 years to 2027

[assfly]

Edit. Wrong thread.

[OomStruisbaai]

Kolisi played from the start, hanging around in the backline.

He needs to be captain. It bring the best out of him

[Chilli]

Kolisi played from the start, hanging around in the backline.

He needs to be captain. It bring the best out of him

He was back to his old self

[OomStruisbaai]

I have never been a big Marcel Coetzee fan. He was head and shoulders above Kolisi in form and as a leader. He will be a perfect substitute for Vermeulen.

[assfly]

I have never been a big Marcel Coetzee fan. He was head and shoulders above Kolisi in form and as a leader. He will be a perfect substitute for Vermeulen.

And he got through 70 minutes which is good.

[OomStruisbaai]

I have never been a big Marcel Coetzee fan. He was head and shoulders above Kolisi in form and as a leader. He will be a perfect substitute for Vermeulen.

And he got through 70 minutes which is good.

They have already selected him, the reason why they havent got a substitute for Duanne and want him to get through the final.

[Chilli]

I have never been a big Marcel Coetzee fan. He was head and shoulders above Kolisi in form and as a leader. He will be a perfect substitute for Vermeulen.

And he got through 70 minutes which is good.

And he was good for all 70 minutes.

Did he ever captain the $harks?

[boere wors]

I have never been a big Marcel Coetzee fan. He was head and shoulders above Kolisi in form and as a leader. He will be a perfect substitute for Vermeulen.

And he got through 70 minutes which is good.

And he was good for all 70 minutes.

Did he ever captain the $harks?

I dont think he did. In fact, Marcel was never that highly rated in SA until he left for europe. Then he suddenly became our lost prodigal son.

[boere wors]

Re Kolisi. We are stuck with him. It is history repeating as with our previous captains. Good thing is, we have won a world cup with him as a passenger at 6, so shouldnt be too worried about the Lions Series. But for once, just imagine a backline of 6 Coetzee 7 PSDT 8 Vermeulen.

[assfly]

Hypothetical question. Pardon me if it comes across as arrogant.

If we go 2-0 up against the Lions, should be put out a slightly weakened team for the third test so we can focus on the Rugby Championship? Basically like what we did in 2009.

I always regret losing the final test in the way we did, which opened the door for the moral victors argument at the time. But I see the reasoning behind moving on to the next challenge after the job was done against the Lions.

[Sandstorm]

Hypothetical question. Pardon me if it comes across as arrogant.

If we go 2-0 up against the Lions, should be put out a slightly weakened team for the third test so we can focus on the Rugby Championship? Basically like what we did in 2009.

I always regret losing the final test in the way we did, which opened the door for the moral victors argument at the time. But I see the reasoning behind moving on to the next challenge after the job was done against the Lions.

Mockers FFS

[assfly]

I know

[boere wors]

Hypothetical question. Pardon me if it comes across as arrogant.

If we go 2-0 up against the Lions, should be put out a slightly weakened team for the third test so we can focus on the Rugby Championship? Basically like what we did in 2009.

I always regret losing the final test in the way we did, which opened the door for the moral victors argument at the time. But I see the reasoning behind moving on to the next challenge after the job was done against the Lions.

That was a big mistake in 09 to field a b team, PdV regretted it. It was an important win for the Lions. I have just seen british media highlights from this tour, they only show scenes from that 3rd Test and they appear to be victorious of the whole tour. Pisses me of big time every time. I'd say fuck them up 3-0. No strategics against the Lions. Nobody really cares about TRC in the long run.

[Sards]

. Nobody really cares about TRC in the long run.

I find this strange.....some of us have enjoyed beating the Kiwis and others have enjoyed getting anally raped by them for decades...

Its definitely something we miss in our games.....

I mean ffs....playing Benneton in the Rainbow Cup final......wank wank....Crusaders would crush them 90 love....

IS THIS WHAT WE HAVE BECOME.....A lesser rugby nation?

[Green light echo]

As usual Sards you are a bit more astute then most of your brethren.

Keep fighting the good fight boet.

[boere wors]

I said nobody cares about TRC, not about beating the ABs! If we beat the ABs twice but still lose TRC, I dont care. After the Lions Series, we have enough time to rest our A team against the minnows, and play the ABs with them fully refreshed at the end of the tournament.

[OomStruisbaai]

I said nobody cares about TRC, not about beating the ABs! If we beat the ABs twice but still lose TRC, I dont care. After the Lions Series, we have enough time to rest our A team against the minnows, and play the ABs with them fully refreshed at the end of the tournament.

There will be players retiring after the Lions series. Who want to retire after beating the Wallabies 60-0?

[boere wors]

So even more reason to beat them 3-0.

[boere wors]

That 3rd test in '09 is a stain. We should have crushed them.

[assfly]

That 3rd test in '09 is a stain. We should have crushed them.

I agree. A 3-0 hammering would be great.

Especially when considering that the NH is our new frontier. It would be great to set the marker and give our provincial teams a high standard to live up to.

[Blake]

Hypothetical question. Pardon me if it comes across as arrogant.

If we go 2-0 up against the Lions, should be put out a slightly weakened team for the third test so we can focus on the Rugby Championship? Basically like what we did in 2009.

I always regret losing the final test in the way we did, which opened the door for the moral victors argument at the time. But I see the reasoning behind moving on to the next challenge after the job was done against the Lions.

Meh, once the series is secure, field a B-team for the dead rubber. You have to be strategic about these things.
Risking our TRC players for a meaningless match is an emotional decision. Rather cap some players and lock them in for the Boks.
There are no ranking points to be lost or gained by beating the Lions and, if anything, a 3-0 clean sweep of the Lions will hurt the overall feasibility of the Lions concept.
If it takes a meaningless Bok loss in a dead rubber to ensure the Lions tour again in 2025 I'll happily take one on the chin.

Not that I think it will come to that this time around.
Pretty sure it's going to be a very tight series and game 3 is going to be the decider.

But if we are going to keep our #1 ranking, we are going to have to win matches away from home in TRC.
Two big losses (15+ points) away from home against NZ and Aus, sees us slipping to #2 and the Aussies can jump from #7 to #3.

[assfly]

I was listening to a former Ireland winger talk on a podcast about the 2009 tour.

He said the intensity of the first 40 minutes of the first test blew them away, which is why they fell behind so early and had to catch up. It was like nothing he'd ever experienced, from the first minute it was just mental. They had tried to do the same thing but couldn't match the Boks in anything.

I've also heard the 2nd test against the Lions be described as one of the most physically violent rugby matches in the modern history of the game.

[boere wors]

I've also heard the 2nd test against the Lions be described as one of the most physically violent rugby matches in the modern history of the game.

Habana and ODriscoll have said that in an interview I saw some time ago.
It is definitely the best match of Rugby that I have ever seen.

[boere wors]

, if anything, a 3-0 clean sweep of the Lions will hurt the overall feasibility of the Lions concept.
If it takes a meaningless Bok loss in a dead rubber to ensure the Lions tour again in 2025 I'll happily take one on the chin.

Thats what i meant above, the win was important for the Lions, restore their pride and so on. But honestly, they can do that in Australia in 4 years, not in our 3rd test.

But one has to say, our b team was shit back then. Much more depth these days, so wouldnt be worried if we field our b team. So maybe you are right, only a dead rubber...

[Chilli]

CAPE TOWN – Springbok assistant coach Deon Davids says he is satisfied with the form of captain Siya Kolisi ahead of the British and Irish Lions tour of South Africa.

Kolisi, who will celebrate his 30th birthday on Wednesday – which is also Youth Day – joined the Bok camp in Bloemfontein after featuring at openside flank for the Sharks in their 34-22 Rainbow Cup SA defeat to the Bulls at Kings Park on Saturday.


The former Stormers captain had a slow start to the new year after he moved from Cape Town to Durban following a frustrating 2020 that saw him recover from a long-term knee injury, while he also had to be in isolation after his wife contracted Covid-19.

He made a fresh start on the east coast, with the Sharks putting him on a conditioning programme that saw him sit out a few matches in the Preparation Cup.

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But he eventually made his debut for coach Sean Everitt’s team in late March in a 45-12 win over the Bulls at Kings Park, scoring a try in his 50-minute appearance.

Kolisi has been improving in every game for the Durbanites, although he hasn’t quite recaptured the outstanding form that he displayed in the playoffs at the 2019 Rugby World Cup.

He will look to use the Georgia series to be at full tilt ahead of the first British and Irish Lions Test on July 24.

New Bok forwards coach Davids, though, is happy with what he has seen ahead of the opening Test against Georgia on July 2.

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“Me and Siya and the rest of the forwards have been in conversations on a lot of fundamentals and a lot of technical stuff in terms of their performances over the past competitions,” Davids said during an press conference from Bloemfontein on Monday.

“I think there’s definitely… Siya coming back and playing for the Sharks over the past few weeks, you can clearly see an improvement and the way he performs with the ball, and especially off the ball.

“Having Siya in today’s session at the camp, it’s just fantastic with him bringing that experience and continue going in his approach in the game. I think Siya is a big, core part of this whole pack of forwards going forward.”

Despite wearing the No 6 jersey, Kolisi’s role at the Sharks has been as a ball-carrier in the wide channels primarily instead of the ‘fetcher’ approach normally associated with that position.

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In the Bok set-up, he has dovetailed well with Duane Vermeulen, who does attack the breakdowns for turnovers. So, it will be interesting to see what loose trio head coach Jacques Nienaber goes with against Georgia, as Vermeulen has an ankle injury and is unlikely to be ready.

A specialist fetcher like the Bulls’ Marco van Staden could come into the mix at No 6, with Kolisi possibly moving to No 8.

Other options at the back of the scrum include Kwagga Smith and the uncapped Jasper Wiese, as well as Bulls star Marcell Coetzee.

The Bok squad in Bloemfontein numbered well over 20 on Monday following the arrival of all the other local players from the Bulls, Sharks, Stormers and Lions on Sunday, with just the overseas-based players still to come.

This must be a little embarrassing for the Springbok Captain.
All that sugar being blown up.his backside

[OomStruisbaai]

Yep Kolisi is massive in the media.

[Cartman]

No sea of red for the fuckers this time
3-0

[boere wors]

"Kolisi has been improving in every game for the Durbanites, although he hasn’t quite recaptured the outstanding form that he displayed in the playoffs at the 2019 Rugby World Cup."

[assfly]

2 weeks until we see the Bokke in action again. My god, I think I will cry with happiness when I see them run onto the field.

Venues confrirmed as Loftus and Ellis Park for the tests against Georgia.

[Sandstorm]

I was listening to a former Ireland winger talk on a podcast about the 2009 tour.

He said the intensity of the first 40 minutes of the first test blew them away, which is why they fell behind so early and had to catch up. It was like nothing he'd ever experienced, from the first minute it was just mental. They had tried to do the same thing but couldn't match the Boks in anything.

I've also heard the 2nd test against the Lions be described as one of the most physically violent rugby matches in the modern history of the game.

Fucking lightweight can’t take a little gouging.

[boere wors]

Is it confirmed that no spectators will be allowed for the Lions tests, or is there still a possibility that at least some may attend?!

And kickoff times are 1800 local, is that correct?!

[assfly]

There are definitely no spectators. Any chance of that was killed by the third wave.

[boere wors]

Ah damn, I have just watched the Soccer Euro, and there were at one game about 20000 spectators, which was actually quite ok. Had hoped for something like that.

[assfly]

Ah damn, I have just watched the Soccer Euro, and there were at one game about 20000 spectators, which was actually quite ok. Had hoped for something like that.

Yes it's a real shame, especially when you look back to the atmosphere in 2009.

But I keep telling myself that it'd rather an empty stadium than the series not taking place at all. Crowds will be back soon.

[Blake]

There are definitely no spectators. Any chance of that was killed by the third wave.

Yep, a real pity but not unexpected. Hopefully SARU can break even after this. They were banking on a massive windfall from the gate of the Lions tour to assist in the recovery after 2020.

Can't wait for all the Aussie and NZ trolls when the Lions tests are no.

[OomStruisbaai]

Live u20s from 13h00

https://www.springboks.rugby/news-featu ... -bok-camp/

[assfly]

Rosko Specman's first media appearance for the Boks. His first words to the press:

"It's your boy, specmagic"

Likeable confidence or sickening arrogance?

As much as I decry the lack of personality a lot of our players display to the media, I'm not quite sure I'm ready for a potential Bok debutant to be referring to himself in a third person nickname.

[boere wors]

Soccer antics, terrible... goes along with celebrating trys with stupid gestures, coloured hairs, tatoos up to bringing a hairdresser on tour

[Chilli]

Rosko Specman's first media appearance for the Boks. His first words to the press:

"It's your boy, specmagic"

Likeable confidence or sickening arrogance?

As much as I decry the lack of personality a lot of our players display to the media, I'm not quite sure I'm ready for a potential Bok debutant to be referring to himself in a third person nickname.

Rosco ain't no Mohamed Ali!

[Blake]

Rosko Specman's first media appearance for the Boks. His first words to the press:

"It's your boy, specmagic"

Likeable confidence or sickening arrogance?

As much as I decry the lack of personality a lot of our players display to the media, I'm not quite sure I'm ready for a potential Bok debutant to be referring to himself in a third person nickname.

Not my cup of tea, but you need all sorts of characters in a team. At the end of the day it's about his contributions to the team...on the field and if his personality fits the team culture or complements the team. You needs some jokers and silly characters.

But when you see antics like this, I see a player that is very aware of his "brand" and looks to be plugging it at every opportunity. Creates the impression that he is bigger than the team and not a team player....at least for me. Maybe there are other reasons Jake White let him go, despite his abilities as a player? Or maybe he was just having a bit of fun. Could be that too I guess.