Stop voting for fucking Tories

[Paddington Bear]

Seems reasonably coherent - support the team's right to express themselves but also (the small minority of) fans' right to express themselves?

[SaintK]

The Speaker getting a bit fed up with thiss bunch by-passing the Commons and not making major announcements at the despatch box

Hoyle went on:

I find it totally unacceptable that, once again, we see Downing Street running roughshod over members of parliament. We’re not accepting it, and I’m at the stage where I’m beginning to look for other avenues, if they’re not going to treat this house seriously.

Hoyle also said he thought it was time for him to have a meeting with the prime minister to discuss this issue so that he could “actually put on the record, here and now, that this house matters”.

For many years there has been a convention in the House of Commons that major government announcements are made to MPs in the chamber first. It is even in the ministerial code (pdf), which says:

When parliament is in session, the most important announcements of government policy should be made in the first instance, in parliament.

[fishfoodie]

The Speaker getting a bit fed up with thiss bunch by-passing the Commons and not making major announcements at the despatch box

Hoyle went on:

I find it totally unacceptable that, once again, we see Downing Street running roughshod over members of parliament. We’re not accepting it, and I’m at the stage where I’m beginning to look for other avenues, if they’re not going to treat this house seriously.

Hoyle also said he thought it was time for him to have a meeting with the prime minister to discuss this issue so that he could “actually put on the record, here and now, that this house matters”.

For many years there has been a convention in the House of Commons that major government announcements are made to MPs in the chamber first. It is even in the ministerial code (pdf), which says:

When parliament is in session, the most important announcements of government policy should be made in the first instance, in parliament.

He's wasting his time talking to the monkey; he needs to talk to the organgrinder; Princess NutNut herself.

[dpedin]

The Speaker getting a bit fed up with thiss bunch by-passing the Commons and not making major announcements at the despatch box

Hoyle went on:

I find it totally unacceptable that, once again, we see Downing Street running roughshod over members of parliament. We’re not accepting it, and I’m at the stage where I’m beginning to look for other avenues, if they’re not going to treat this house seriously.

Hoyle also said he thought it was time for him to have a meeting with the prime minister to discuss this issue so that he could “actually put on the record, here and now, that this house matters”.

For many years there has been a convention in the House of Commons that major government announcements are made to MPs in the chamber first. It is even in the ministerial code (pdf), which says:

When parliament is in session, the most important announcements of government policy should be made in the first instance, in parliament.

He's wasting his time talking to the monkey; he needs to talk to the organgrinder; Princess NutNut herself.

About time he grew a pair!

[I like neeps]

Normal island.

[sturginho]

What was that all about?

[Hal Jordan]

The Morgan Report makes for grim reading for the Met Police. No wonder Patel wanted to delay and redact.

[fishfoodie]

The Morgan Report makes for grim reading for the Met Police. No wonder Patel wanted to delay and redact.

The report criticised police delays in giving access to a police sensitive database, called “Holmes”: “The panel has never received any reasonable explanation for the refusal over seven years by [then] Assistant Commissioner Dick and her successors to provide access to the Holmes accounts to the Daniel Morgan independent panel.”

This, the report says, “caused major delays and further unnecessary distress to the family of Daniel Morgan”.

What shit does she have on them ?

She's a complete cluster fuck, presiding over a toxic dumpster fire of an organisation; but they still won't fire her.

[Tichtheid]

What was that all about?

Anti-lockdown protestors, from what I can gather.

[sturginho]

[Hal Jordan]

Normal island.

Good thing Guido been such a staunch supporter of the BBC down the years, eh?

[Insane_Homer]

ORLY!!!???



...and not withstanding that time he was caught on tape conspiring to have a journalist beating up.

[I like neeps]

Labour not campaigning today in Batley as it's the anniversary of Jo Cox's assissination. Other parties... Not so bothered.

One of the strangest things about the UK is we discuss being cancelled and silenced ad infinitum and when an MP is assissinated in the streets this decade it's all hush hush hush let's never speak of this la la la la I'm not listening.

[tabascoboy]

This is going to be a bit more tricky to glibly explain away. When you're being called "hopeless" by the fat slug just how crap do you have to be?

Dominic Cummings has published expletive-laden messages apparently from Boris Johnson, in which the PM brands the health secretary "hopeless".

Mr Cummings also published another private message about the struggle to procure ventilators for Covid-19 patients.

"It's Hancock. He has been hopeless," a contact appearing to be Mr Johnson replied on 27 March last year.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-57498845

[Hal Jordan]

I see Cummings is dropping bombshells about Hancock and Johnson.

Curiously silent on Cuddly Rishi and Visionary Gove.

Although in fairness to the odious little squit, his description of Johnson's style of chairing meetings rings true.

[JM2K6]

I see Cummings is dropping bombshells about Hancock and Johnson.

Curiously silent on Cuddly Rishi and Visionary Gove.

Although in fairness to the odious little squit, his description of Johnson's style of chairing meetings rings true.

Don't forget his repeated boosting of psycho Raab

[Slick]

I see Cummings is dropping bombshells about Hancock and Johnson.

Curiously silent on Cuddly Rishi and Visionary Gove.

Although in fairness to the odious little squit, his description of Johnson's style of chairing meetings rings true.

Don't forget his repeated boosting of psycho Raab

It’s been a few hours, but no, still not biting.

[JM2K6]

I see Cummings is dropping bombshells about Hancock and Johnson.

Curiously silent on Cuddly Rishi and Visionary Gove.

Although in fairness to the odious little squit, his description of Johnson's style of chairing meetings rings true.

Don't forget his repeated boosting of psycho Raab

It’s been a few hours, but no, still not biting.

Not everything is about you!

[Slick]

Don't forget his repeated boosting of psycho Raab

It’s been a few hours, but no, still not biting.

Not everything is about you!

Mostly is.

But anyway, the accusation was a bit vague

[Happyhooker]

It’s been a few hours, but no, still not biting.

Not everything is about you!

Mostly is.

But anyway, the accusation was a bit vague

Nah, cummings is clearly hoping raab or rishi come out of this on top and is pitching it as so. His old buddy gove is probably out of the game right now

[JM2K6]

It’s been a few hours, but no, still not biting.

Not everything is about you!

Mostly is.

But anyway, the accusation was a bit vague

Which one? "Psycho Raab" isn't a nickname I came up with. And Cummings has repeatedly boosted both Sunak and Raab to a ridiculous extent - it's hilariously transparent. More so with the former given the logical cul-de-sac he had to run down to both criticise the anti lockdown wankers while at the same time refusing to mention that Sunak was the one who brought them in to sway Boris...

It's not a subtle game being played here.

[Dogbert]

Scottish Tories in Ayrshire demanding that they be stopped bring called Tories as its a derogatory word

Their official twitter handle @ScotTories

[Slick]

Not everything is about you!

Mostly is.

But anyway, the accusation was a bit vague

Which one? "Psycho Raab" isn't a nickname I came up with. And Cummings has repeatedly boosted both Sunak and Raab to a ridiculous extent - it's hilariously transparent. More so with the former given the logical cul-de-sac he had to run down to both criticise the anti lockdown wankers while at the same time refusing to mention that Sunak was the one who brought them in to sway Boris...

It's not a subtle game being played here.

Ahh right, OK, yes completely agree with you and HH on that. I don’t think I’d come across “psycho”, that was all

[ScarfaceClaw]

I thought Demonic Raab was the go to?

[JM2K6]

No, that's Cummings.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... s-on-china etc

Raab is a very guilty Brexit bullshitter who's made some ludicrous attempts to rewrite history, so I'm never going to like him. He may be competent compared to Boris and chums, but dishonesty is a huge issue.

[Tichtheid]

Scottish Tories in Ayrshire demanding that they be stopped bring called Tories as its a derogatory word

Their official twitter handle @ScotTories

I heard (or most correctly read on Wikipedia, so take that as it comes) that the word Tory comes from a middle Irish word meaning "robber" or "thief".
Whig comes from a Scottish insult for the Covenanters, it comes from a word for cattle drivers.


I know where I stand on the appropriateness of the words.

[SaintK]

Decisions, decisions!!!
Should I agree with the PM that Hancock is hopeless or should I agree with the PM that we should have confidence in Hancock?
Either way he is unlikely to be Health Secretary after any reshuffle!

[Paddington Bear]

Scottish Tories in Ayrshire demanding that they be stopped bring called Tories as its a derogatory word

Their official twitter handle @ScotTories

I heard (or most correctly read on Wikipedia, so take that as it comes) that the word Tory comes from a middle Irish word meaning "robber" or "thief".
Whig comes from a Scottish insult for the Covenanters, it comes from a word for cattle drivers.


I know where I stand on the appropriateness of the words.

Pretty much.

Tories have been a faction since the aftermath of the Civil War - Whigs all but dead but can trace their origins back there as well.

[Slick]

Decisions, decisions!!!
Should I agree with the PM that Hancock is hopeless or should I agree with the PM that we should have confidence in Hancock?
Either way he is unlikely to be Health Secretary after any reshuffle!

I'd of thought he is safest of anyone in a reshuffle, they are not going to bow down to Cummings

[Ymx]

Debating the Tory leadership positions and individuals by those who think they’re all scum. This should be constructive

[fishfoodie]

Decisions, decisions!!!
Should I agree with the PM that Hancock is hopeless or should I agree with the PM that we should have confidence in Hancock?
Either way he is unlikely to be Health Secretary after any reshuffle!

I'd of thought he is safest of anyone in a reshuffle, they are not going to bow down to Cummings

He's safe until the vaccinations program has gotten past the herd immunity number, or whenever the Autumn wave is expected; but I wouldn't be getting any office Christmas cards printed yet; if was him

[Slick]

No, that's Cummings.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... s-on-china etc

Raab is a very guilty Brexit bullshitter who's made some ludicrous attempts to rewrite history, so I'm never going to like him. He may be competent compared to Boris and chums, but dishonesty is a huge issue.

Yes, agree with that. He hasn't, and won't get caught up in the sleaze and corruption stuff though, so there is that

[fishfoodie]

No, that's Cummings.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... s-on-china etc

Raab is a very guilty Brexit bullshitter who's made some ludicrous attempts to rewrite history, so I'm never going to like him. He may be competent compared to Boris and chums, but dishonesty is a huge issue.

Yes, agree with that. He hasn't, and won't get caught up in the sleaze and corruption stuff though, so there is that

But he's continually turned a blind eye to the manifest corruption of the rest of scum around the Cabinet table; so he's just as culpable; even if he isn't stuffing the taxpayers cash in his own pockets !

[ScarfaceClaw]

No, that's Cummings.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... s-on-china etc

Raab is a very guilty Brexit bullshitter who's made some ludicrous attempts to rewrite history, so I'm never going to like him. He may be competent compared to Boris and chums, but dishonesty is a huge issue.

Yes, agree with that. He hasn't, and won't get caught up in the sleaze and corruption stuff though, so there is that

But he's continually turned a blind eye to the manifest corruption of the rest of scum around the Cabinet table; so he's just as culpable; even if he isn't stuffing the taxpayers cash in his own pockets !

Just shows how thick he really is that he’s not balls deep in a PPE contract given how much the rest of them have been getting away with.

[Slick]

Now I know you’re on the wind up

[Slick]

Incredible result in the Amersham & Chesham by election with the Libdems overturning a 23k majority to take it from the Tory’s.

It’s where I grew up and I never thought I’d see the day, even though it had a truly awful MP for many years

[tabascoboy]

Well, if you need a clue, I'd start at the very top of your party...


"Our work to regain the trust of local people begins today"

[Margin__Walker]

Incredible result in the Amersham & Chesham by election with the Libdems overturning a 23k majority to take it from the Tory’s.

It’s where I grew up and I never thought I’d see the day, even though it had a truly awful MP for many years

I spent a fair amount of time growing up there too. My Dad lived in Amersham, so I spent my weekends there as a kid.

Not something I expected to see. It will probably be a flash in the pan by election protest, reversed at the next GE, but it's still a huge swing in a rock solid safe seat.

[Paddington Bear]

I'm from the area, family there and spent a lot of time there. Surprised by the margin but everyone could see the result coming.

Lib Dems ran a very aggressive and smart campaign for the NIMBY vote, which couldn't have been timed better. HS2 works are currently going through the seat, partially because of that half the roads are roadworks right now. The main road between Chesham & Amersham had roadworks start last month that will go on until April next year, so everywhere is a car park.
I personally think HS2 is a good idea and obviously you can't not do roadworks, but they're really bloody irritating and making life hassle in the area.
Disappointingly, the Lib Dems have convinced people that any housebuilding in the area is a travesty and most people seem to agree. Funny thing for a Liberal party to stand on.

Brexit a factor in so much as it has loosened the ties that would normally have got people voting blue without thinking about it.

Planning reforms you'd imagine are dead which is a disaster, half the cabinet will be shitting bricks which is less so.

[I like neeps]

I'm from the area, family there and spent a lot of time there. Surprised by the margin but everyone could see the result coming.

Lib Dems ran a very aggressive and smart campaign for the NIMBY vote, which couldn't have been timed better. HS2 works are currently going through the seat, partially because of that half the roads are roadworks right now. The main road between Chesham & Amersham had roadworks start last month that will go on until April next year, so everywhere is a car park.
I personally think HS2 is a good idea and obviously you can't not do roadworks, but they're really bloody irritating and making life hassle in the area.
Disappointingly, the Lib Dems have convinced people that any housebuilding in the area is a travesty and most people seem to agree. Funny thing for a Liberal party to stand on.

Brexit a factor in so much as it has loosened the ties that would normally have got people voting blue without thinking about it.

Planning reforms you'd imagine are dead which is a disaster, half the cabinet will be shitting bricks which is less so.

If the Lib Dems view their route to electoral success is NIMBYISM and crack the "blue wall" that way Britain is in a bad way.