Stop voting for fucking Tories

[Insane_Homer]

I'm from the area, family there and spent a lot of time there. Surprised by the margin but everyone could see the result coming.

Not quite everyone, Tory echograph yesterday stating that senior tories not worried about losing

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[Lobby]

I'm from the area, family there and spent a lot of time there. Surprised by the margin but everyone could see the result coming.

Lib Dems ran a very aggressive and smart campaign for the NIMBY vote, which couldn't have been timed better. HS2 works are currently going through the seat, partially because of that half the roads are roadworks right now. The main road between Chesham & Amersham had roadworks start last month that will go on until April next year, so everywhere is a car park.
I personally think HS2 is a good idea and obviously you can't not do roadworks, but they're really bloody irritating and making life hassle in the area.
Disappointingly, the Lib Dems have convinced people that any housebuilding in the area is a travesty and most people seem to agree. Funny thing for a Liberal party to stand on.

Brexit a factor in so much as it has loosened the ties that would normally have got people voting blue without thinking about it.

Planning reforms you'd imagine are dead which is a disaster, half the cabinet will be shitting bricks which is less so.

I am also not sure that all of the 11,000 voters who switched from Labour to Lib Dem this time will be happy to do so again in a General Election. Even for the South East commuter belt, Labour picking up just 600 votes is unusual.

In some ways it represents a return to more normal politics, with the Lib Dems winning a bye-election protest vote against the ruling party. This was what they did for years, until they lost support as a result of being in a coalition with the Tories.

[tc27]

NIMBYism is the real winner by the looks of it - this probably kills of any meaningful planning reform the government may have being pondering. The Lib Dems are utterly ruthless and cynical when it comes to winning this kind of contest.

Long term conservatism as it exists here is fucked if the majority of people can no longer afford to own their own home.

[tc27]

For the record despite the above I would have voted LD if I lived in this seat not because I oppose HS2 or housebuilding (I support both) but because this is a really really awful 'vote leave' government that's made catastrophic errors in responding to Covid and waiving through the Northern Ireland Protocol.

[SaintK]

I'm from the area, family there and spent a lot of time there. Surprised by the margin but everyone could see the result coming.

Lib Dems ran a very aggressive and smart campaign for the NIMBY vote, which couldn't have been timed better. HS2 works are currently going through the seat, partially because of that half the roads are roadworks right now. The main road between Chesham & Amersham had roadworks start last month that will go on until April next year, so everywhere is a car park.
I personally think HS2 is a good idea and obviously you can't not do roadworks, but they're really bloody irritating and making life hassle in the area.
Disappointingly, the Lib Dems have convinced people that any housebuilding in the area is a travesty and most people seem to agree. Funny thing for a Liberal party to stand on.

Brexit a factor in so much as it has loosened the ties that would normally have got people voting blue without thinking about it.

Planning reforms you'd imagine are dead which is a disaster, half the cabinet will be shitting bricks which is less so.

I am also not sure that all of the 11,000 voters who switched from Labour to Lib Dem this time will be happy to do so again in a General Election. Even for the South East commuter belt, Labour picking up just 600 votes is unusual.

In some ways it represents a return to more normal politics, with the Lib Dems winning a bye-election protest vote against the ruling party. This was what they did for years, until they lost support as a result of being in a coalition with the Tories.

Tactical or not, it's another nail in the Labour party coffin. In just 4 years their vote here has collapsed from 17,000 in the 2017 election to 650 yessterday. A lost deposit and distant 4th place behind the Green Party. Ignominy indeed and the slow slide into political irrelevence beckons.

[Paddington Bear]

I'm from the area, family there and spent a lot of time there. Surprised by the margin but everyone could see the result coming.

Not quite everyone, Tory echograph yesterday stating that senior tories not worried about losing

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Yeah to be clear by this I meant 'everyone who knows Chesham & Amersham'.

If the Lib Dems view their route to electoral success is NIMBYISM and crack the "blue wall" that way Britain is in a bad way.

Yep. My sympathy for the Tories on this is the world's tiniest violin given I have experience of trying to build a cricket pavilion in this constituency and the attitude of the local Tory party was horrendous, but there's no doubt the Lib Dems will weaponise it across the region.

Tend to agree on the Labour element mentioned by SaintK. Tories cleaning up their heartlands and they're an irrelevance in the SE which is now a battleground. Not sure where they go from there.

[Tichtheid]

I genuinely thought the Tory party was finished when they were swapping leaders every 18 months or so in the early noughties.

In a way John Major's "Bastards" saved them, Brexit has been a major electoral success for them.

My point being is that these things are cyclical.


There was a point made by Heseltine of all people, Tony Blair talked about how he was lamenting the failure of Labour at elections and Michael Heseltine apparently said, "Labour will win when it wants to".

When I read that I had a real wake up call, it doesn't matter what my politics are, those politics will never win a UK election, call them Red Tories, New Labour or whatever, but they won, and they were the only Labour government to win whilst in power. No one from the Left of the party has won an election for well over fifty years.

[Paddington Bear]

We're all little Americans. 40 odd years ago the suburbs of New York and Connecticut etc were Republican strongholds, the party changed to attract voters in less wealthy regions and now these areas are solidly liberal. We import all their nonsense eventually.

[GogLais]

We're all little Americans. 40 odd years ago the suburbs of New York and Connecticut etc were Republican strongholds, the party changed to attract voters in less wealthy regions and now these areas are solidly liberal. We import all their nonsense eventually.

That’s an interesting comparison. I suppose Labour’s problem in holding together its coalition of unions, ethnic groups and social liberals is just like the one the Democrats faced from the 60s onwards. Who’s our Bill Clinton?

[Insane_Homer]

[fishfoodie]

We're all little Americans. 40 odd years ago the suburbs of New York and Connecticut etc were Republican strongholds, the party changed to attract voters in less wealthy regions and now these areas are solidly liberal. We import all their nonsense eventually.

That’s an interesting comparison. I suppose Labour’s problem in holding together its coalition of unions, ethnic groups and social liberals is just like the one the Democrats faced from the 60s onwards. Who’s our Bill Clinton?

What is the point of tying the anchor of Unions to your Party ?




Labour haven't woken up to the changes to the traditional working classes in the last 30 odd years.

[SaintK]

Aah, the Jenrick school of pork barrel politics!!!

[SaintK]

Only to be expected from this corrupt lot really!

Boris Johnson is to strip the Electoral Commission of the power to prosecute law-breaking, just weeks after it launched an investigation into his controversial flat refurbishment.
The watchdog has been threatened with curbs ever since it embarrassed senior Tory figures by fining Vote Leave for busting spending limits for the Brexit referendum.
Now ministers have announced that a new Elections Bill will remove its ability to prosecute criminal offences under electoral law – arguing it “wastes public money”.

[fishfoodie]

Only to be expected from this corrupt lot really!

Boris Johnson is to strip the Electoral Commission of the power to prosecute law-breaking, just weeks after it launched an investigation into his controversial flat refurbishment.
The watchdog has been threatened with curbs ever since it embarrassed senior Tory figures by fining Vote Leave for busting spending limits for the Brexit referendum.
Now ministers have announced that a new Elections Bill will remove its ability to prosecute criminal offences under electoral law – arguing it “wastes public money”.

People knew what they were voting for.

[ASMO]

And now one of them charged with sexual assault wonder how the blonde slug will defend him?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.lbc. ... r-old-boy/

[salanya]

Only to be expected from this corrupt lot really!

Boris Johnson is to strip the Electoral Commission of the power to prosecute law-breaking, just weeks after it launched an investigation into his controversial flat refurbishment.
The watchdog has been threatened with curbs ever since it embarrassed senior Tory figures by fining Vote Leave for busting spending limits for the Brexit referendum.
Now ministers have announced that a new Elections Bill will remove its ability to prosecute criminal offences under electoral law – arguing it “wastes public money”.

To be expected, but it's no less outrageous.

So frustrating that this just seems to be accepted nowadays, only because there is so much of this behaviour and these policies. And the next case is only marginally worse than the last one, so most people and press just shrug their shoulders.

If this was a Putin or a Kim Jong-Un there would be plenty of finger-pointing, coverage and outrage. But this is Britain/The West, so it's brushed under the carpet whilst we look the other way at Boris who does something silly we are all meant to laugh at, as if that is acceptable for a statesman.

[SaintK]

And now one of them charged with sexual assault wonder how the blonde slug will defend him?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.lbc. ... r-old-boy/

I'm sure he'll be fine...................... unless he's convicted!!!

A Tory MP is facing trial accused of sexually assaulting a 15-year-old boy in 2008.
Imran Ahmad Khan, 47, the Conservative MP for Wakefield, West Yorkshire, said he denies “in the strongest terms” an allegation he groped the teenager in Staffordshire.
Ahmad Khan, who was elected at the 2019 general election, appeared at Westminster magistrates court on Thursday by video link from his lawyers’ office. He can be named after reporting restrictions were lifted on Friday.
Ahmad Khan, from Wakefield, faces a single count of sexual assault against the teenager, who cannot be identified because he is an alleged victim of a sexual offence, in 2008.

[Insane_Homer]

Cmon, folks, he's not as bad as..... Hilter

[Insane_Homer]

I'm sure he'll be fine...................... unless he's convicted!!!

Pritti Patel in charge of the evidence box?

[fishfoodie]

I'm sure he'll be fine...................... unless he's convicted!!!

Pritti Patel in charge of the evidence box?

Well she does like dressing up as a copper; maybe she does Judges too ?

[Random1]

I don’t get why people get indignant about politicians being politicians.

It’s almost accepted that they’ll need to lie/pedal untruths to get elected. Even the ones with morals have to bend things. It’s all part of the game.

[Rinkals]

I don’t get why people get indignant about politicians being politicians.

It’s almost accepted that they’ll need to lie/pedal untruths to get elected. Even the ones with morals have to bend things. It’s all part of the game.

And this is precisely why they get away with it.

If they are given a free pass because that is what you expect from a politician, then they are always going to be pushing the boundaries and their behaviour is going to be more and more corrupt as they take advantage of not being held to account.

[Insane_Homer]

So, Oliver Dowden, cabinet minister, Culture Secretary, stating in the Torygraph that advertisers should be forced to fund BG News. stating...

We will not stand by and allow this to happen

because advertisers

boycott 'a threat to democracy'

while in the same article stating the

right to dissent

[Hal Jordan]

Dowden is exactly the right man for the culture wars job. Self-important, pompous and utterly unaware of what a stupid ass he is.

[SaintK]

I'm only "totally fucking hopeless" because the PM was stressed

Matt Hancock, the health secretary, gave a long interview on a BBC Breakfast this morning and in it he gave his most considered response so far to the revelation last week that Boris Johnson called him “totally fucking hopeless” in a text to Dominic Cummings in March last year. Hancock put it down to the PM being stressed at the time.
Hancock also refused to say whether he had Johnson had spoken about the text since it was revealed last week.

[fishfoodie]

I'm only "totally fucking hopeless" because the PM was stressed

Matt Hancock, the health secretary, gave a long interview on a BBC Breakfast this morning and in it he gave his most considered response so far to the revelation last week that Boris Johnson called him “totally fucking hopeless” in a text to Dominic Cummings in March last year. Hancock put it down to the PM being stressed at the time.
Hancock also refused to say whether he had Johnson had spoken about the text since it was revealed last week.

If he'd any balls at all; he'd have answered, that if the PM really , thought he was hopeless; he'd have removed him.

That would land the Bumblecunt in the invidious position of having to either; support him & and say Hancock did everything right; or admit that he was right; but only kept Hancock in position, because he was the escape goat for the entire fuckup.

Hancock makes Grayling look like a genius.

[I like neeps]

Well I never, what is holding back disadvantaged white pupils isn't systemic cuts and underfunding but actually language about equality says the Tories.

Some great culture war stuff here. I'm going to guess not talking about equality and continuing the underfunding won't actually help them. But will appeal to the clapping seals that vote for them so everyone wins. Well, except the disadvantaged white kids.

[SaintK]

Ken Clarke speaking sense and why the Blonde slug shouldn't spaff £200m on his next vanity project.

Complete waste of time, silly populist nonsense. It’s a symptom, £200 million is not going to cause problems, but it shows there are people in Number 10 who just think there’s free money and who think that waving a Union Jack and sending yachts and aircraft carriers around the world shows what a great power we are. We have no money for that kind of thing.

[SaintK]

Nothing to do with the G7 or the 1000's of police, security and press that were in attendance say Downing St.........yeah right!!!

Downing Street has denied the G7 summit is behind a rapid rise in Covid-19 cases in Cornwall, an increase that is raising significant concern about extra tourism pressures on the region in the summer weeks.
Recent seven-day case rates have risen rapidly for Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly, increasing from 4.9 per 100,000 people on 3 June to 130.6 per 100,000 people on 16 June.
There have been significant outbreaks in Carbis Bay – where the G7 summit was held – as well as nearby St Ives, and Newquay West – where many delegates stayed.

[sorCrer]

Nothing to do with the G7 or the 1000's of police, security and press that were in attendance say Downing St.........yeah right!!!

Downing Street has denied the G7 summit is behind a rapid rise in Covid-19 cases in Cornwall, an increase that is raising significant concern about extra tourism pressures on the region in the summer weeks.
Recent seven-day case rates have risen rapidly for Cornwall and the Isles of Scilly, increasing from 4.9 per 100,000 people on 3 June to 130.6 per 100,000 people on 16 June.
There have been significant outbreaks in Carbis Bay – where the G7 summit was held – as well as nearby St Ives, and Newquay West – where many delegates stayed.

F'me. That's a massive increase.

[Hal Jordan]

I think some of it will be down to masses of people travelling to Cornwall during the half term as the default holiday destination for anyone in the south.

[Biffer]

I don’t get why people get indignant about politicians being politicians.

It’s almost accepted that they’ll need to lie/pedal untruths to get elected. Even the ones with morals have to bend things. It’s all part of the game.

Well done. You're exactly what they want. So used to it that you think it's fine. Do you think they'll be happy with what they can do now and just stop?

[tabascoboy]

Holy shitting Christ

[fishfoodie]

Shocking, an unattributed leak in the BBC; the day before Demonics usual leak, ahead of PMQs.

I'm sure the Government will be investigating such a high level leak very seriously, & will dismiss whomever is responsible ....

Dominic Cummings tried to bypass rules over £530k grant, emails suggest


Dominic Cummings tried to bypass the usual awarding process and fast-track a £530,000 government grant at the start of the pandemic, leaked emails suggest.

In an email, the PM's ex-top aide told civil servants to "immediately" issue the cash with "no procurement, no lawyers, no meetings, no delay".

Further emails show civil servants had concerns about the timeframe and whether it was in line with the rules.

The government said due diligence was followed in awarding the grant.

"We take these checks extremely seriously to ensure our contracts deliver results and value for money," the Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) said.

The grant was eventually issued to the project Our World in Data, a research project run by a charitable organisation with academics at Oxford University, in four installments from summer 2020.

I hope Princess Nutnut didn't use her own computer, when she forwarded the emails to Laura

[Hal Jordan]

Holy shitting Christ

"Give me a child until he is 7..."

This country is sliding into the pit, and we seem to be actively pouring oil on the path.

[fishfoodie]

Holy shitting Christ

"Give me a child until he is 7..."

This country is sliding into the pit, and we seem to be actively pouring oil on the path.

Wait till they start disbanding the scouts, & enrolling them in a nice new org, with snappy brown shirts as a uniform.

[Biffer]

Holy shitting Christ

Is that actually fucking real?

I don’t think it’s going to get much traction up here.

[Dogbert]

Holy shitting Christ

Is that actually fucking real?

I don’t think it’s going to get much traction up here.

[fishfoodie]

So if the Tories have decided that it's safe to stuff 60,000 fans in Wembley; when will it be safe to put 650 MPs in the HoC ?

Wembley's capacity has been reduced to 22,500 for group fixtures at Euro 2020, but that is set to be expanded
to 45,000 - around 50% of full capacity - for two knockout games in the last 16 before the semi-finals on
6 and 7 July and final on 11 July.

[Insane_Homer]

Holy shitting Christ

Is that actually fucking real?

I don’t think it’s going to get much traction up here.