Official Euro 2020 thread

[OomStruisbaai]

McGuire is the most important player in the England team. Good defense will win this.

[Openside]

Shame about the bogus penalty. But England were the better side by some distance, so not as sour a win as it might have been.

Why was it a bogus penalty? Fouled in the box equals penalty even if heading away from goal…It seemed to me(not a regular watcher) that his leg was clipped by the first person and then body checked by the second… VAR checked it too.

I was more interested in Grealish, to bring him on and then off again was odd, does he not take penalties or had they realised he was shite??

[GogLais]

Shame about the bogus penalty. But England were the better side by some distance, so not as sour a win as it might have been.

Why was it a bogus penalty? Fouled in the box equals penalty even if heading away from goal…It seemed to me(not a regular watcher) that his leg was clipped by the first person and then body checked by the second… VAR checked it too.

I was more interested in Grealish, to bring him on and then off again was odd, does he not take penalties or had they realised he was shite??

It’s like rugby and not being able to get out of your 22. Refs are always going to make mistakes and you want to be in the right place when it happens.

[JM2K6]

Shame about the bogus penalty. But England were the better side by some distance, so not as sour a win as it might have been.

Why was it a bogus penalty? Fouled in the box equals penalty even if heading away from goal…It seemed to me(not a regular watcher) that his leg was clipped by the first person and then body checked by the second… VAR checked it too.

Basically, the angles they first used showed absolutely nothing. The reverse angle (posted earlier in the thread) wasn't shown during the game until much after. That angle does show he gets fouled twice, by two players stepping across him and not trying to get the ball at all. But it definitely looked like a dive without those ones.

I was more interested in Grealish, to bring him on and then off again was odd, does he not take penalties or had they realised he was shite??

Grealish gives the ball away a lot, doesn't track back, and was there to create the goal - we had the goal, may as well put another defensive player on. Pretty ruthless stuff by Southgate.

Not really been impressed by Grealish, he's very flash and gets fouled a lot, which is useful for a team with a decent set piece, but he seems less connected to the rest of the team and doesn't really create as much as his legend suggests. I'd rather Sancho than him tbh. It did mean England lost an "out" ball and had to defend deeper though.

[Openside]

Shame about the bogus penalty. But England were the better side by some distance, so not as sour a win as it might have been.

Why was it a bogus penalty? Fouled in the box equals penalty even if heading away from goal…It seemed to me(not a regular watcher) that his leg was clipped by the first person and then body checked by the second… VAR checked it too.

I was more interested in Grealish, to bring him on and then off again was odd, does he not take penalties or had they realised he was shite??

It’s like rugby and not being able to get out of your 22. Refs are always going to make mistakes and you want to be in the right place when it happens.

I agree I was saying to my more football savvy mates why don’t they just let Sterling dribble it about in the box and wait for him to be so scythed down

[Plim]

Shame about the bogus penalty. But England were the better side by some distance, so not as sour a win as it might have been.

Why was it a bogus penalty? Fouled in the box equals penalty even if heading away from goal…It seemed to me(not a regular watcher) that his leg was clipped by the first person and then body checked by the second… VAR checked it too.

I was more interested in Grealish, to bring him on and then off again was odd, does he not take penalties or had they realised he was shite??

Fair. I’ve revised my view of this and the justice of the result. I now don’t think Sterling dived so ‘bogus’ was wrong. I don’t agree with the decision but I’m happy to accept it as one of those things that get argued about. And as someone said upthread, the Danish goal came from a dubious decision for the free kick, so all square.

I’ve been told by a more clued-up footballing mate that Southgate recognised a formation that the Danes adopt when behind on the scoreboard and that Grealish wasn’t the man for that job, so was substituted. Could be bollocks, but I’d like to believe it. I hope Grealish gets a good run out against Italy.

[I like neeps]

Kane does that, it's part of what makes him a top class player when he's on form - he's a very good creative player when he drops back like that. But he's just a bit slow at the moment.

Must admit the punditry and commentary over goals and shots always makes me laugh. Any kind of finish is a "great" finish no matter where it goes. Kane whacking one at the keeper and it going in off his chest - a great finish! Kane heading it at the keeper but it going through his legs rather than anywhere not near the keeper - a great finish. Sterling whacking one straight at the keeper - a great save.

Ah well.

Kane is having the same problems as Wayne Rooney. He's England's most creative player and best passer as well as the finisher. No point in him being in the box without service. His pass to Saka for the first goal has to be considered as pass of the tournament.

[Openside]

Shame about the bogus penalty. But England were the better side by some distance, so not as sour a win as it might have been.

Why was it a bogus penalty? Fouled in the box equals penalty even if heading away from goal…It seemed to me(not a regular watcher) that his leg was clipped by the first person and then body checked by the second… VAR checked it too.

Basically, the angles they first used showed absolutely nothing. The reverse angle (posted earlier in the thread) wasn't shown during the game until much after. That angle does show he gets fouled twice, by two players stepping across him and not trying to get the ball at all. But it definitely looked like a dive without those ones.

I was more interested in Grealish, to bring him on and then off again was odd, does he not take penalties or had they realised he was shite??

Grealish gives the ball away a lot, doesn't track back, and was there to create the goal - we had the goal, may as well put another defensive player on. Pretty ruthless stuff by Southgate.

Not really been impressed by Grealish, he's very flash and gets fouled a lot, which is useful for a team with a decent set piece, but he seems less connected to the rest of the team and doesn't really create as much as his legend suggests. I'd rather Sancho than him tbh. It did mean England lost an "out" ball and had to defend deeper though.

that’s what we noticed that he was the Danes main source of possession!!

[JM2K6]

Kane does that, it's part of what makes him a top class player when he's on form - he's a very good creative player when he drops back like that. But he's just a bit slow at the moment.

Must admit the punditry and commentary over goals and shots always makes me laugh. Any kind of finish is a "great" finish no matter where it goes. Kane whacking one at the keeper and it going in off his chest - a great finish! Kane heading it at the keeper but it going through his legs rather than anywhere not near the keeper - a great finish. Sterling whacking one straight at the keeper - a great save.

Ah well.

Kane is having the same problems as Wayne Rooney. He's England's most creative player and best passer as well as the finisher. No point in him being in the box without service. His pass to Saka for the first goal has to be considered as pass of the tournament.

Not sure I agree with that. Sterling and Saka are more creative players. Kane can be very good like that, but he hasn't been in this tournament. And Foden's passing when he came on was light years ahead of the rest.

[Paddington Bear]

Thing is, Sterling doesn't 'dive' in the theatrical sense, it's clear he falls over. A lot being made of not a lot really

[Plim]

Shame about the bogus penalty. But England were the better side by some distance, so not as sour a win as it might have been.

Why was it a bogus penalty? Fouled in the box equals penalty even if heading away from goal…It seemed to me(not a regular watcher) that his leg was clipped by the first person and then body checked by the second… VAR checked it too.

Basically, the angles they first used showed absolutely nothing. The reverse angle (posted earlier in the thread) wasn't shown during the game until much after. That angle does show he gets fouled twice, by two players stepping across him and not trying to get the ball at all. But it definitely looked like a dive without those ones.

I was more interested in Grealish, to bring him on and then off again was odd, does he not take penalties or had they realised he was shite??

Grealish gives the ball away a lot, doesn't track back, and was there to create the goal - we had the goal, may as well put another defensive player on. Pretty ruthless stuff by Southgate.

Not really been impressed by Grealish, he's very flash and gets fouled a lot, which is useful for a team with a decent set piece, but he seems less connected to the rest of the team and doesn't really create as much as his legend suggests. I'd rather Sancho than him tbh. It did mean England lost an "out" ball and had to defend deeper though.

Some of the more hysterical praise for Grealish is overdone. But his close control and balance are superb. He holds the ball better than anyone else in the England team and generally makes important yards close to the other side’s 18 yard box. Sterling, good as he is, is the one who gets dispossessed more often when he tries to take the ball forward.

[robmatic]

Why was it a bogus penalty? Fouled in the box equals penalty even if heading away from goal…It seemed to me(not a regular watcher) that his leg was clipped by the first person and then body checked by the second… VAR checked it too.

Basically, the angles they first used showed absolutely nothing. The reverse angle (posted earlier in the thread) wasn't shown during the game until much after. That angle does show he gets fouled twice, by two players stepping across him and not trying to get the ball at all. But it definitely looked like a dive without those ones.

I was more interested in Grealish, to bring him on and then off again was odd, does he not take penalties or had they realised he was shite??

Grealish gives the ball away a lot, doesn't track back, and was there to create the goal - we had the goal, may as well put another defensive player on. Pretty ruthless stuff by Southgate.

Not really been impressed by Grealish, he's very flash and gets fouled a lot, which is useful for a team with a decent set piece, but he seems less connected to the rest of the team and doesn't really create as much as his legend suggests. I'd rather Sancho than him tbh. It did mean England lost an "out" ball and had to defend deeper though.

Some of the more hysterical praise for Grealish is overdone. But his close control and balance are superb. He holds the ball better than anyone else in the England team and generally makes important yards close to the other side’s 18 yard box. Sterling, good as he is, is the one who gets dispossessed more often when he tries to take the ball forward.

Sterling in his current form is very direct and effective though. England have got a good selection of skilful forwards who will create opportunities, but only one finisher in Kane it seems.

[JM2K6]

Why was it a bogus penalty? Fouled in the box equals penalty even if heading away from goal…It seemed to me(not a regular watcher) that his leg was clipped by the first person and then body checked by the second… VAR checked it too.

Basically, the angles they first used showed absolutely nothing. The reverse angle (posted earlier in the thread) wasn't shown during the game until much after. That angle does show he gets fouled twice, by two players stepping across him and not trying to get the ball at all. But it definitely looked like a dive without those ones.

I was more interested in Grealish, to bring him on and then off again was odd, does he not take penalties or had they realised he was shite??

Grealish gives the ball away a lot, doesn't track back, and was there to create the goal - we had the goal, may as well put another defensive player on. Pretty ruthless stuff by Southgate.

Not really been impressed by Grealish, he's very flash and gets fouled a lot, which is useful for a team with a decent set piece, but he seems less connected to the rest of the team and doesn't really create as much as his legend suggests. I'd rather Sancho than him tbh. It did mean England lost an "out" ball and had to defend deeper though.

Some of the more hysterical praise for Grealish is overdone. But his close control and balance are superb. He holds the ball better than anyone else in the England team and generally makes important yards close to the other side’s 18 yard box. Sterling, good as he is, is the one who gets dispossessed more often when he tries to take the ball forward.

Sterling's been much better at that in the 2nd half of the tournament.

The question I always ask is - what's the end product? Grealish has largely flattered to deceive. He can beat players for fun but then doesn't pick the right pass or keeps the ball when he shouldn't or tries one too many things and loses it. Sterling has been all end product, ditto Saka.

[I like neeps]

Kane does that, it's part of what makes him a top class player when he's on form - he's a very good creative player when he drops back like that. But he's just a bit slow at the moment.

Must admit the punditry and commentary over goals and shots always makes me laugh. Any kind of finish is a "great" finish no matter where it goes. Kane whacking one at the keeper and it going in off his chest - a great finish! Kane heading it at the keeper but it going through his legs rather than anywhere not near the keeper - a great finish. Sterling whacking one straight at the keeper - a great save.

Ah well.

Kane is having the same problems as Wayne Rooney. He's England's most creative player and best passer as well as the finisher. No point in him being in the box without service. His pass to Saka for the first goal has to be considered as pass of the tournament.

Not sure I agree with that. Sterling and Saka are more creative players. Kane can be very good like that, but he hasn't been in this tournament. And Foden's passing when he came on was light years ahead of the rest.

Don't agree about Sterling - just look at the assist numbers. Saka is still young but all I know is Saka isn't playing the pass Kane did before the goal and de Bruyne-esk cross to Sterling in the first half. Creativity is debatable I guess but their passing isn't Kane is the best of the three. Foden is mustard but he's more short sharp quick passes and the squad isn't built for that.

I think Kane is underrated by England fans. You have one of the best strikers in the world and he just seems a bit unloved. Top goals and assets in the league in the same season is bananas.

[I like neeps]

Kane does that, it's part of what makes him a top class player when he's on form - he's a very good creative player when he drops back like that. But he's just a bit slow at the moment.

Must admit the punditry and commentary over goals and shots always makes me laugh. Any kind of finish is a "great" finish no matter where it goes. Kane whacking one at the keeper and it going in off his chest - a great finish! Kane heading it at the keeper but it going through his legs rather than anywhere not near the keeper - a great finish. Sterling whacking one straight at the keeper - a great save.

Ah well.

Kane is having the same problems as Wayne Rooney. He's England's most creative player and best passer as well as the finisher. No point in him being in the box without service. His pass to Saka for the first goal has to be considered as pass of the tournament.

Not sure I agree with that. Sterling and Saka are more creative players. Kane can be very good like that, but he hasn't been in this tournament. And Foden's passing when he came on was light years ahead of the rest.

Don't agree about Sterling - just look at the assist numbers. Saka is still young but all I know is Saka isn't playing the pass Kane did before the goal and de Bruyne-esk cross to Sterling in the first half. Creativity is debatable I guess but their passing isn't Kane is the best of the three. Foden is mustard but he's more short sharp quick passes and the squad isn't built for that.

I think Kane is underrated by England fans. You have one of the best strikers in the world and he just seems a bit unloved. Top goals and assets in the league in the same season is bananas.

[Paddington Bear]

Agree about Kane. His penalty was shocking but having the presence of mind to knock it in rather than shit the bed has to be commended.

[Hal Jordan]

Mind you, unless we had run out of subs Kane badly needed to be taken off in the second half of extra time, he was absolutely shagged out and barely able to muster a jog. When Sterling broke free you could see Kane begging him to take it all the way as he shambled along 10 yards behind. Rashford would have been ideal for the chase.

But the ball retention in the last two minutes of extra time was something I haven't seen from an England team in years. Calm, collected and precise as opposed to the red faced 100 mph pashun of yore.

[robmatic]

But the ball retention in the last two minutes of extra time was something I haven't seen from an England team in years. Calm, collected and precise as opposed to the red faced 100 mph pashun of yore.

I can't remember watching an England team that was as comfortable in possession as this one.

[JM2K6]

Don't agree about Sterling - just look at the assist numbers. Saka is still young but all I know is Saka isn't playing the pass Kane did before the goal and de Bruyne-esk cross to Sterling in the first half. Creativity is debatable I guess but their passing isn't Kane is the best of the three. Foden is mustard but he's more short sharp quick passes and the squad isn't built for that.

I think Kane is underrated by England fans. You have one of the best strikers in the world and he just seems a bit unloved. Top goals and assets in the league in the same season is bananas.

Are you talking club football or this tournament here? Kane's been amazing for Spurs. He stank the place out for 2/3rds of England's run in this tournament. Sterling's the other way round, had a poor season for City but has come good here, scoring goals, providing a goal for Kane, lots of key passes & opportunities for Shaw to get clear. Saka's been creating chances by attacking players.

Kane has zero assists for the tournament. Saka and Sterling both have one, Shaw has 3 and has been dovetailing with Sterling whose creativity has been the key down the left. I don't remember the de Bruyne-esque cross - I do remember Kane whacking the ball into a defender and it bobbling to Sterling who hit it at the keeper, if that's what you mean!

Foden was releasing runners on the right side with gorgeous passes, and playing down the flanks like that is exactly how this England team operates...

Harry Kane the Spurs player and Harry Kane the Euro 2020 player are two different animals.

[sorCrer]

So a laser was pointed at Schmeichel's face when Kane took the penalty. wankers.

[tc27]

So a laser was pointed at Schmeichel's face when Kane took the penalty. wankers.

Hopefully the culprits can be identified with CCTV worth criminal charges and a lifetime ban to follow.

[Paddington Bear]

So a laser was pointed at Schmeichel's face when Kane took the penalty. wankers.

Hopefully the culprits can be identified with CCTV worth criminal charges and a lifetime ban to follow.

Exceptionally scummy behaviour.

[I like neeps]

Don't agree about Sterling - just look at the assist numbers. Saka is still young but all I know is Saka isn't playing the pass Kane did before the goal and de Bruyne-esk cross to Sterling in the first half. Creativity is debatable I guess but their passing isn't Kane is the best of the three. Foden is mustard but he's more short sharp quick passes and the squad isn't built for that.

I think Kane is underrated by England fans. You have one of the best strikers in the world and he just seems a bit unloved. Top goals and assets in the league in the same season is bananas.

Are you talking club football or this tournament here? Kane's been amazing for Spurs. He stank the place out for 2/3rds of England's run in this tournament. Sterling's the other way round, had a poor season for City but has come good here, scoring goals, providing a goal for Kane, lots of key passes & opportunities for Shaw to get clear. Saka's been creating chances by attacking players.

Kane has zero assists for the tournament. Saka and Sterling both have one, Shaw has 3 and has been dovetailing with Sterling whose creativity has been the key down the left. I don't remember the de Bruyne-esque cross - I do remember Kane whacking the ball into a defender and it bobbling to Sterling who hit it at the keeper, if that's what you mean!

Foden was releasing runners on the right side with gorgeous passes, and playing down the flanks like that is exactly how this England team operates...

Harry Kane the Spurs player and Harry Kane the Euro 2020 player are two different animals.

Foden was so poor in the opening games he was dropped tbf. And what's a striker supposed to do with no service? That's why Kane is so good because he makes it happen himself. No other English player is playing the pass like his to Saka - better than the actual assist - and the ball to Sterling. Oh and he's scored 4 goals too.

Kane is elite and underappreciated. You guys have a world world class player and don't give him the credit he's due. Kane walks into every side on the planet - It's been a long time since any Englishman could do that.

[Hugo]

I agree with JMK re Grealish.

What he does is not massively productive or effective. I guess his main function is that he comes on with fresh legs and runs at tired defenders also giving his teammates a breather. He's adept at holding possession for a while then getting fouled which is great in a game management sense I suppose but as far as being a game changer I don't see it.

[Hugo]

Don't agree about Sterling - just look at the assist numbers. Saka is still young but all I know is Saka isn't playing the pass Kane did before the goal and de Bruyne-esk cross to Sterling in the first half. Creativity is debatable I guess but their passing isn't Kane is the best of the three. Foden is mustard but he's more short sharp quick passes and the squad isn't built for that.

I think Kane is underrated by England fans. You have one of the best strikers in the world and he just seems a bit unloved. Top goals and assets in the league in the same season is bananas.

Are you talking club football or this tournament here? Kane's been amazing for Spurs. He stank the place out for 2/3rds of England's run in this tournament. Sterling's the other way round, had a poor season for City but has come good here, scoring goals, providing a goal for Kane, lots of key passes & opportunities for Shaw to get clear. Saka's been creating chances by attacking players.

Kane has zero assists for the tournament. Saka and Sterling both have one, Shaw has 3 and has been dovetailing with Sterling whose creativity has been the key down the left. I don't remember the de Bruyne-esque cross - I do remember Kane whacking the ball into a defender and it bobbling to Sterling who hit it at the keeper, if that's what you mean!

Foden was releasing runners on the right side with gorgeous passes, and playing down the flanks like that is exactly how this England team operates...

Harry Kane the Spurs player and Harry Kane the Euro 2020 player are two different animals.

Foden was so poor in the opening games he was dropped tbf. And what's a striker supposed to do with no service? That's why Kane is so good because he makes it happen himself. No other English player is playing the pass like his to Saka - better than the actual assist - and the ball to Sterling. Oh and he's scored 4 goals too.

Kane is elite and underappreciated. You guys have a world world class player and don't give him the credit he's due. Kane walks into every side on the planet - It's been a long time since any Englishman could do that.

I thought Kane worked incredibly hard yesterday, would love to see his heat map. He was roving all over the pitch, presenting for the ball deep and on either flank. A striker doing that much work so far from goal shows he is nothing if not a selfless, team player.

[JM2K6]

Foden was so poor in the opening games he was dropped tbf. And what's a striker supposed to do with no service? That's why Kane is so good because he makes it happen himself. No other English player is playing the pass like his to Saka - better than the actual assist - and the ball to Sterling. Oh and he's scored 4 goals too.

Kane is elite and underappreciated. You guys have a world world class player and don't give him the credit he's due. Kane walks into every side on the planet - It's been a long time since any Englishman could do that.

Foden was rotated like everyone else has been.

Kane hasn't had the service? Kane was practically immobile for the first 4 matches. You can't provide service to a striker who doesn't bother making runs, doesn't bother jumping for headers, doesn't get out of a mild jog - and that's what Kane was like for the majority of the tournament. I lost count of the number of times a dangerous ball was put in but he was second best to it because he was so slow and lumbering. He's scored four goals, yes - one from a dreadful missed pen, two hit at the keeper and in, one a good header. All served to him on a plate by other players, so the service clearly isn't that bad.

He's nowhere near his best form.

On those passes: For the Saka one, Foden was putting those balls through for runners on a regular basis, and you're over-egging how good it was. I agree he's our best passing striker, but all of Mount/Foden/Sancho/Stirling can play that pass. Still not sure which ball to Sterling you're talking about, would be good to know!

[Sandstorm]

Hopefully Italy stay Covid-free and England don’t win the trophy by default.

[Uncle fester]

Point of order, but the Norwegians fucking hate the Danes, as well as the Swedes. Also the Normans were probably Norwegian. Otherwise an accurate assessment.

Got that arseways. The Danes and Norwegians hate the Swedes. Sweden is the England of Scandinavia.

[SaintK]

Point of order, but the Norwegians fucking hate the Danes, as well as the Swedes. Also the Normans were probably Norwegian. Otherwise an accurate assessment.

Got that arseways. The Danes and Norwegians hate the Swedes. Sweden is the England of Scandinavia.

........with far better looking women!!

[Paddington Bear]

Point of order, but the Norwegians fucking hate the Danes, as well as the Swedes. Also the Normans were probably Norwegian. Otherwise an accurate assessment.

Got that arseways. The Danes and Norwegians hate the Swedes. Sweden is the England of Scandinavia.

........with far better looking women!!

Who do you think came over and took all of ours away?

[Uncle fester]

Point of order, but the Norwegians fucking hate the Danes, as well as the Swedes. Also the Normans were probably Norwegian. Otherwise an accurate assessment.

Got that arseways. The Danes and Norwegians hate the Swedes. Sweden is the England of Scandinavia.

........with far better looking women!!

They are a bit overrated really. Plenty of sturdy heifers wandering around Stockholm.

[I like neeps]

Foden was so poor in the opening games he was dropped tbf. And what's a striker supposed to do with no service? That's why Kane is so good because he makes it happen himself. No other English player is playing the pass like his to Saka - better than the actual assist - and the ball to Sterling. Oh and he's scored 4 goals too.

Kane is elite and underappreciated. You guys have a world world class player and don't give him the credit he's due. Kane walks into every side on the planet - It's been a long time since any Englishman could do that.

Foden was rotated like everyone else has been.

Kane hasn't had the service? Kane was practically immobile for the first 4 matches. You can't provide service to a striker who doesn't bother making runs, doesn't bother jumping for headers, doesn't get out of a mild jog - and that's what Kane was like for the majority of the tournament. I lost count of the number of times a dangerous ball was put in but he was second best to it because he was so slow and lumbering. He's scored four goals, yes - one from a dreadful missed pen, two hit at the keeper and in, one a good header. All served to him on a plate by other players, so the service clearly isn't that bad.

He's nowhere near his best form.

On those passes: For the Saka one, Foden was putting those balls through for runners on a regular basis, and you're over-egging how good it was. I agree he's our best passing striker, but all of Mount/Foden/Sancho/Stirling can play that pass. Still not sure which ball to Sterling you're talking about, would be good to know!

If he's rotated I expect Foden to start the final then, the biggest game of the year.

The ball to Sterling was first half around 20 minutes in. Beautiful.

[SaintK]

Got that arseways. The Danes and Norwegians hate the Swedes. Sweden is the England of Scandinavia.

........with far better looking women!!

They are a bit overrated really. Plenty of sturdy heifers wandering around Stockholm.

have never noticed because of the non-sturdy ones!!!!

[JM2K6]

If he's rotated I expect Foden to start the final then, the biggest game of the year.

The ball to Sterling was first half around 20 minutes in. Beautiful.

I don't expect Foden to start. Every attacking player has had good game time and there was plenty of rotation early on, but he looks to have settled on Sterling and Saka as his starting choices now, unless he feels he doesn't need Saka's defensive solidity. "Rotated" doesn't mean "guaranteed to start the final", that's an odd call.

Not seeing a ball to Sterling from Kane - watched from 15 mins to the goal at 30 mins. Kane barely had a touch during that period. Do you remember what came of it? I've also looked here: https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/eur ... adisticas/ - you can use the chalkboard to narrow it down to just Kane's successful passes [edit: and his unsuccessful ones don't show any during that time either]. He doesn't make one after 13 minutes into the game until it's time to kick off from the goal.

[I like neeps]

If he's rotated I expect Foden to start the final then, the biggest game of the year.

The ball to Sterling was first half around 20 minutes in. Beautiful.

I don't expect Foden to start. Every attacking player has had good game time and there was plenty of rotation early on, but he looks to have settled on Sterling and Saka as his starting choices now, unless he feels he doesn't need Saka's defensive solidity. "Rotated" doesn't mean "guaranteed to start the final", that's an odd call.

Not seeing a ball to Sterling from Kane - watched from 15 mins to the goal at 30 mins. Kane barely had a touch during that period. Do you remember what came of it? I've also looked here: https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/eur ... adisticas/ - you can use the chalkboard to narrow it down to just Kane's successful passes [edit: and his unsuccessful ones don't show any during that time either]. He doesn't make one after 13 minutes into the game until it's time to kick off from the goal.

The team starting the final will be more or less the same team that started the first game without Mings as Maguire is back and Foden as he was dropped.

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/eur ... adisticas/

The pass on the like you can see, it's unsuccessful looks like a cross.

[JM2K6]

If he's rotated I expect Foden to start the final then, the biggest game of the year.

The ball to Sterling was first half around 20 minutes in. Beautiful.

I don't expect Foden to start. Every attacking player has had good game time and there was plenty of rotation early on, but he looks to have settled on Sterling and Saka as his starting choices now, unless he feels he doesn't need Saka's defensive solidity. "Rotated" doesn't mean "guaranteed to start the final", that's an odd call.

Not seeing a ball to Sterling from Kane - watched from 15 mins to the goal at 30 mins. Kane barely had a touch during that period. Do you remember what came of it? I've also looked here: https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/eur ... adisticas/ - you can use the chalkboard to narrow it down to just Kane's successful passes [edit: and his unsuccessful ones don't show any during that time either]. He doesn't make one after 13 minutes into the game until it's time to kick off from the goal.

The team starting the final will be more or less the same team that started the first game without Mings as Maguire is back and Foden as he was dropped.

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/eur ... adisticas/

The pass on the like you can see, it's unsuccessful looks like a cross.

The one after 5 minutes? It's a good low cross across the box, yeah. But nothing out of the ordinary for a top quality attacking footballer, and any of the England attackers are capable of that cross. Some of them even find the target! :)

England have mixed and matched their attacking choices quite a bit. Grealish has started, Sancho has started, Foden has started, Saka has started. Saka has come out ahead but even then Sancho got picked for the Ukraine game.

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I don't expect Foden to start. Every attacking player has had good game time and there was plenty of rotation early on, but he looks to have settled on Sterling and Saka as his starting choices now, unless he feels he doesn't need Saka's defensive solidity. "Rotated" doesn't mean "guaranteed to start the final", that's an odd call.

Not seeing a ball to Sterling from Kane - watched from 15 mins to the goal at 30 mins. Kane barely had a touch during that period. Do you remember what came of it? I've also looked here: https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/eur ... adisticas/ - you can use the chalkboard to narrow it down to just Kane's successful passes [edit: and his unsuccessful ones don't show any during that time either]. He doesn't make one after 13 minutes into the game until it's time to kick off from the goal.

The team starting the final will be more or less the same team that started the first game without Mings as Maguire is back and Foden as he was dropped.

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/eur ... adisticas/

The pass on the like you can see, it's unsuccessful looks like a cross.

The one after 5 minutes? It's a good low cross across the box, yeah. But nothing out of the ordinary for a top quality attacking footballer, and any of the England attackers are capable of that cross. Some of them even find the target! :)

England have mixed and matched their attacking choices quite a bit. Grealish has started, Sancho has started, Foden has started, Saka has started. Saka has come out ahead but even then Sancho got picked for the Ukraine game.

It was exactly the type of ball that got Kane top assists in the PL and why he's one of the best players in the world.

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The team starting the final will be more or less the same team that started the first game without Mings as Maguire is back and Foden as he was dropped.

https://en.as.com/resultados/futbol/eur ... adisticas/

The pass on the like you can see, it's unsuccessful looks like a cross.

The one after 5 minutes? It's a good low cross across the box, yeah. But nothing out of the ordinary for a top quality attacking footballer, and any of the England attackers are capable of that cross. Some of them even find the target! :)

England have mixed and matched their attacking choices quite a bit. Grealish has started, Sancho has started, Foden has started, Saka has started. Saka has come out ahead but even then Sancho got picked for the Ukraine game.

It was exactly the type of ball that got Kane top assists in the PL and why he's one of the best players in the world.

It was a good ball, but you're really going overboard on this. A better ball would've been gettable by the fastest player in the team. Most players in the team can and have played low crosses like that, it's not a unique skill.

Again, Kane is wonderful in the PL, but he's looked sluggish and out of touch in this tournament. He's slowly improving. This isn't a contraversial statement, you simply can't point to his club form and translate it directly to what he's done for England in the last month. Sterling has been the opposite - he's had a relatively poor season with City but has been fantastic for England after a shaky start.

Spurs fan?

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Scotland remaining neutral.....

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Scotland remaining neutral.....

Still at least the glorious Leader, St. Nicola, has put aside old enmities for the Final.