Well everyone else hates Laporte up here and we really don't want or need you in the 6NOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:56 amWell Laporte is French and he want us desperately in the 6 Nations.
Six Nations wants Springbokke
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Reading this thread makes me realise why I really, really don't want the Boks in the 6N - please don't make me have to support Wales or Ireland once a year.
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For what it's worth, I don't want the Boks in the 6N either.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:26 am Reading this thread makes me realise why I really, really don't want the Boks in the 6N - please don't make me have to support Wales or Ireland once a year.
It's an amazing tournament with great heritage. Adding the Boks seems like a cheap cash grab...because it is.
I hope nobody goes for it.
I like the international calendar as-if actually. Wouldn't mess with it too much, although I wish there was one extra week in mid-year and one extra week at the end-of-year international windows that players would get released by their clubs. It would make it more feasible for Tier 1 teams to play a warmup against some Tier 2 nations and it would allow 1 SH team per year a shot at a NH grand slam challenge.
Tinker with the feeder tournaments all they like, but leave the international schedule the hell alone.
I have seen this sentiment expressed by other NH posters - here and on Planet RugbyPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:26 am Reading this thread makes me realise why I really, really don't want the Boks in the 6N - please don't make me have to support Wales or Ireland once a year.
What is it about us saffas? Not up to standard? Unwashed?
MZ, whole not always unjustified, even I am getting pretty tired of this constant victim mentality and persecution complex that we seem have.Monk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:04 amI have seen this sentiment expressed by other NH posters - here and on Planet RugbyPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:26 am Reading this thread makes me realise why I really, really don't want the Boks in the 6N - please don't make me have to support Wales or Ireland once a year.
What is it about us saffas? Not up to standard? Unwashed?
Always bitching and moaning about every perceived injustice and slight. It's gotten tiresome.
I don't blame the NH fans for not wanting to bring all that drama into their house.
Yep. Seems like it was something mentioned by some blazers somewhere and the media and fans just ran with it.
I think a strong NH vs SH rivalry on the international stage is good for rugby.
There was a personal attack ?Slick wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 8:25 amWhereas making an hour long video attacking an individual, both personally and professionally, is not bullying of course.
No Blake - I find these priggish attitudes distasteful and it is behaviour that must be called outBlake wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:09 amMZ, whole not always unjustified, even I am getting pretty tired of this constant victim mentality and persecution complex that we seem have.Monk wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:04 amI have seen this sentiment expressed by other NH posters - here and on Planet RugbyPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 9:26 am Reading this thread makes me realise why I really, really don't want the Boks in the 6N - please don't make me have to support Wales or Ireland once a year.
What is it about us saffas? Not up to standard? Unwashed?
Always bitching and moaning about every perceived injustice and slight. It's gotten tiresome.
I don't blame the NH fans for not wanting to bring all that drama into their house.
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Our Saffers can fight & spite under each other for pages but after the game I have never saw this bitter losing tosser attitude then this lot.
We take it on the chin and move on.
We take it on the chin and move on.
Not at all. Aimed at everyone having a bitch about SA possibly joining the 6 nations.
Springboks, Stormers and WP supporter.
Trust me...us Saffers are quite proficient at telling those that don't want us to vokkof.......we even did it to the Kiwis....at least some of us....
So if we tell you to vokkof don't be offended. We don't bow down to any nation.
I will laugh with you and call bollocks and talk bollocks....but dont threaten my country...we aren't the French.......
So if we tell you to vokkof don't be offended. We don't bow down to any nation.
I will laugh with you and call bollocks and talk bollocks....but dont threaten my country...we aren't the French.......
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With all due respect, Saffa squabbling makes the Irish look like one big happy family. It appears exhausting to be part of.
And frankly, despite proclamations of not really caring, Blake's summation describes what I seem to see from a lot of posters.
Via the official channels, sure. Making his little home video (that was definitely not made to be widely seen *wink wink, nudge nudge*), no.
He's not the first to have a bit of a moan about not getting the response he wanted out of the official mode of communication, however, as his video suggests, a lot of directors of rugby/head coaches tend to be fairly myopic with what they raise through that channel. Many of them probably wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than World Rugby doing a full mea culpa, issuing a groveling apology and vowing never to let the team be reffed by particular officials ever again. World Rugby wouldn't be doing their jobs if they just acquiesced and made coaches happy.
There's a shallow pool of refs and it's shallower still when we get to those who are capable of keeping up with play at the top level and making the right decision most of the time. If World Rugby stood down or dropped them every time coaches complained we wouldn't have a international rugby any more.
Rugby is fundamentally a difficult game to get 100% right even before you factor in 30 blokes constantly trying to push or outright break the laws. We either accept that and get on with it as things will even out over time or we sit around stewing over it, raising blood pressure and shortening our lives. That's not to say I'll never be annoyed by a decision, but you learn to let it go quick and it's something I've admired about Wasps' coaches in recent years. They've been phlegmatic even in the face of some pretty raw decisions. An example to follow.
And frankly, despite proclamations of not really caring, Blake's summation describes what I seem to see from a lot of posters.
Blake wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:09 am
MZ, whole not always unjustified, even I am getting pretty tired of this constant victim mentality and persecution complex that we seem have.
Always bitching and moaning about every perceived injustice and slight. It's gotten tiresome.
I don't blame the NH fans for not wanting to bring all that drama into their house.
Via the official channels, sure. Making his little home video (that was definitely not made to be widely seen *wink wink, nudge nudge*), no.
He's not the first to have a bit of a moan about not getting the response he wanted out of the official mode of communication, however, as his video suggests, a lot of directors of rugby/head coaches tend to be fairly myopic with what they raise through that channel. Many of them probably wouldn't be satisfied with anything less than World Rugby doing a full mea culpa, issuing a groveling apology and vowing never to let the team be reffed by particular officials ever again. World Rugby wouldn't be doing their jobs if they just acquiesced and made coaches happy.
There's a shallow pool of refs and it's shallower still when we get to those who are capable of keeping up with play at the top level and making the right decision most of the time. If World Rugby stood down or dropped them every time coaches complained we wouldn't have a international rugby any more.
Rugby is fundamentally a difficult game to get 100% right even before you factor in 30 blokes constantly trying to push or outright break the laws. We either accept that and get on with it as things will even out over time or we sit around stewing over it, raising blood pressure and shortening our lives. That's not to say I'll never be annoyed by a decision, but you learn to let it go quick and it's something I've admired about Wasps' coaches in recent years. They've been phlegmatic even in the face of some pretty raw decisions. An example to follow.
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Every time I read something that you wrote you seem more French to me.Sards wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:16 am Trust me...us Saffers are quite proficient at telling those that don't want us to vokkof.......we even did it to the Kiwis....at least some of us....
So if we tell you to vokkof don't be offended. We don't bow down to any nation.
I will laugh with you and call bollocks and talk bollocks....but dont threaten my country...we aren't the French.......
Fokof poes
Then fucking well move on and stop bitchingOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:45 am Our Saffers can fight & spite under each other for pages but after the game I have never saw this bitter losing tosser attitude then this lot.
We take it on the chin and move on.
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We have a Frenchman telling us our players are dirty, the French of all nations. If we just let it go who'll be next, the fokon Brits, Kiwis, the fokon Ozzies? Next thing you know the whole rugby world is in on the act. I say fok that, stand your ground boys and give them hell.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:53 amThen fucking well move on and stop bitchingOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:45 am Our Saffers can fight & spite under each other for pages but after the game I have never saw this bitter losing tosser attitude then this lot.
We take it on the chin and move on.
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We fucking struggle to move on because we won the series and the NH lot are bitter tossers.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:53 amThen fucking well move on and stop bitchingOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:45 am Our Saffers can fight & spite under each other for pages but after the game I have never saw this bitter losing tosser attitude then this lot.
We take it on the chin and move on.
Jesus Christ, this is like a nursery school, no one, literally no one, is moaning about losing the series. We lost, we were rubbish, we have said it over and over and over and over. Stop making up stuff to fit your narrative.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:05 pmWe fucking struggle to move on because we won the series and the NH lot are bitter tossers.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:53 amThen fucking well move on and stop bitchingOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:45 am Our Saffers can fight & spite under each other for pages but after the game I have never saw this bitter losing tosser attitude then this lot.
We take it on the chin and move on.
Where we are moaning is about the actions of your water boy and a lot of your supporters on here - it doesn't seem to matter how many of us, or how many times, we say that the result was fair enough you keep bringing it up. I'm not sure if it stupidity or a deflection thing.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
And what the hell has that got to do with SA joining the 6N? Nothing!!!!OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:05 pmWe fucking struggle to move on because we won the series and the NH lot are bitter tossers.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 11:53 amThen fucking well move on and stop bitchingOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 10:45 am Our Saffers can fight & spite under each other for pages but after the game I have never saw this bitter losing tosser attitude then this lot.
We take it on the chin and move on.
I'm bloody glad they aren't heading back for another 12 years.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:12 pmJesus Christ, this is like a nursery school, no one, literally no one, is moaning about losing the series. We lost, we were rubbish, we have said it over and over and over and over. Stop making up stuff to fit your narrative.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:05 pmWe fucking struggle to move on because we won the series and the NH lot are bitter tossers.
Where we are moaning is about the actions of your water boy and a lot of your supporters on here - it doesn't seem to matter how many of us, or how many times, we say that the result was fair enough you keep bringing it up. I'm not sure if it stupidity or a deflection thing.
I'll probably be dead and buried by then anyway and won't have to put with this sort of shit again!!!
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What has the water boy to do with you lot wanting us to join the 6 Nations?Slick wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:12 pmJesus Christ, this is like a nursery school, no one, literally no one, is moaning about losing the series. We lost, we were rubbish, we have said it over and over and over and over. Stop making up stuff to fit your narrative.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:05 pmWe fucking struggle to move on because we won the series and the NH lot are bitter tossers.
Where we are moaning is about the actions of your water boy and a lot of your supporters on here - it doesn't seem to matter how many of us, or how many times, we say that the result was fair enough you keep bringing it up. I'm not sure if it stupidity or a deflection thing.
OK, stupidity it is then. Lets move on to the next question.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:27 pmWhat has the water boy to do with you lot wanting us to join the 6 Nations?Slick wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:12 pmJesus Christ, this is like a nursery school, no one, literally no one, is moaning about losing the series. We lost, we were rubbish, we have said it over and over and over and over. Stop making up stuff to fit your narrative.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:05 pm
We fucking struggle to move on because we won the series and the NH lot are bitter tossers.
Where we are moaning is about the actions of your water boy and a lot of your supporters on here - it doesn't seem to matter how many of us, or how many times, we say that the result was fair enough you keep bringing it up. I'm not sure if it stupidity or a deflection thing.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
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And what the hell has that got to do with SA joining the 6N? Nothing!!!!SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:26 pmI'm bloody glad they aren't heading back for another 12 years.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:12 pmJesus Christ, this is like a nursery school, no one, literally no one, is moaning about losing the series. We lost, we were rubbish, we have said it over and over and over and over. Stop making up stuff to fit your narrative.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:05 pm
We fucking struggle to move on because we won the series and the NH lot are bitter tossers.
Where we are moaning is about the actions of your water boy and a lot of your supporters on here - it doesn't seem to matter how many of us, or how many times, we say that the result was fair enough you keep bringing it up. I'm not sure if it stupidity or a deflection thing.
I'll probably be dead and buried by then anyway and won't have to put with this sort of shit again!!!
Fuck me! Tell me you'rer a parody Saffer and not for real.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:57 pmAnd what the hell has that got to do with SA joining the 6N? Nothing!!!!SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:26 pmI'm bloody glad they aren't heading back for another 12 years.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:12 pm
Jesus Christ, this is like a nursery school, no one, literally no one, is moaning about losing the series. We lost, we were rubbish, we have said it over and over and over and over. Stop making up stuff to fit your narrative.
Where we are moaning is about the actions of your water boy and a lot of your supporters on here - it doesn't seem to matter how many of us, or how many times, we say that the result was fair enough you keep bringing it up. I'm not sure if it stupidity or a deflection thing.
I'll probably be dead and buried by then anyway and won't have to put with this sort of shit again!!!
SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:26 pmI'm bloody glad they aren't heading back for another 12 years.Slick wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:12 pmJesus Christ, this is like a nursery school, no one, literally no one, is moaning about losing the series. We lost, we were rubbish, we have said it over and over and over and over. Stop making up stuff to fit your narrative.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:05 pm
We fucking struggle to move on because we won the series and the NH lot are bitter tossers.
Where we are moaning is about the actions of your water boy and a lot of your supporters on here - it doesn't seem to matter how many of us, or how many times, we say that the result was fair enough you keep bringing it up. I'm not sure if it stupidity or a deflection thing.
I'll probably be dead and buried by then anyway and won't have to put with this sort of shit again!!!
Jesus wept....
Listen. Yoh...I don't know how to say this.....
Saffers are arrogant. It's that whole survival of the fittest thing. Give them a sniff of blood and they will be all over you.
I agree completely that this has been a complete embarrassment from beginning to now. I don't even know where to hide my face in shame. But it has been from both sides. It just takes a spark to set off the bushfire.
One thing though. Don't question my country. Or insult it. Then I step in and get bevok.
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Go fuck yourself stupid Poos.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:57 pmFuck me! Tell me you'rer a parody Saffer and not for real.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:57 pmAnd what the hell has that got to do with SA joining the 6N? Nothing!!!!
STFU. You brought in Tordo who bit off a Welsh players finger, all because he got a few stiches while being rucked.
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Yep a definite parodyOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:15 pmGo fuck yourself stupid Poos.SaintK wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 1:57 pmFuck me! Tell me you'rer a parody Saffer and not for real.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 12:57 pm
And what the hell has that got to do with SA joining the 6N? Nothing!!!!
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Absolutely, fuck off.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:44 pmYep, May aswell post only on PR. Now that we move away from this lot NH konte.
You, sard and of course handy were the ones who started all this shit by insulting some posters and/or theirs countries.
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Can you read?Marylandolorian wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 3:01 pmAbsolutely, fuck off.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Aug 25, 2021 2:44 pmYep, May aswell post only on PR. Now that we move away from this lot NH konte.
You, sard and of course handy were the ones who started all this shit by insulting some posters and/or theirs countries.