Yes, in defense and attack as well.
Rugby Championship Match Thread - Sat 2nd - SA v NZ / Arg v Aus
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Yep we have to play different. More ball in hand. DMac can create out of nothing.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:43 am Boks will have to up their ball possession stats against AB's. We've been comfortable to play without the ball against less threatening oppo. AB's have too many weapons for that. Their counter attack is superb. Savea, both Ioanes and Jordan will carve us up if our kicking is shit.
The Wallabies first tackling was weak.
Havili's another one who's really stepped up. He reads the game so well - organised on defence, always looking for work, and he knows when to back himself close to the line. The midfield mix is intriguing. Havili looks to have nailed his spot, but what happens when Goodhue's fit again?
Damn. Missed second half. First was enough. ABs definitely are going to be a challenge. We are going to have to go at them very physically. And make the ref aware of them slowing the ball down by lying on the opposite side of the ruck and their offside in the backline. Wings should be really fast. And big. Willie is going to really be challenged on his positioning and defense with the chip ahead.
We can do it
We can do it
And you are happy with WP playing the same.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:36 am I,ll rather take touch bore good defending forwards tests then this touch rugby from both teams.
The Wallabies defense don't excist.
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Dot get to far ahead. We first need to beat the Aussies.Sards wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:54 am Damn. Missed second half. First was enough. ABs definitely are going to be a challenge. We are going to have to go at them very physically. And make the ref aware of them slowing the ball down by lying on the opposite side of the ruck and their offside in the backline. Wings should be really fast. And big. Willie is going to really be challenged on his positioning and defense with the chip ahead.
We can do it
Next Sunday
09h05 All Blacks vs Pumas
12h05 Springboks vs Wallabies
Obus Super Stadium
I hate to say it, but I think Goodhue wasn’t all that in the season leading up to injury.Gumboot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:43 am Havili's another one who's really stepped up. He reads the game so well - organised on defence, always looking for work, and he knows when to back himself close to the line. The midfield mix is intriguing. Havili looks to have nailed his spot, but what happens when Goodhue's fit again?
I’d back keeping Havili where he is.
But Goodhue can do center of course.
That should not be a problem. ABs have softened them up alreadyOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 11:01 amDot get to far ahead. We first need to beat the Aussies.Sards wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 10:54 am Damn. Missed second half. First was enough. ABs definitely are going to be a challenge. We are going to have to go at them very physically. And make the ref aware of them slowing the ball down by lying on the opposite side of the ruck and their offside in the backline. Wings should be really fast. And big. Willie is going to really be challenged on his positioning and defense with the chip ahead.
We can do it
Next Sunday
09h05 All Blacks vs Pumas
12h05 Springboks vs Wallabies
Obus Super Stadium
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Much as I'm a fan of Taukei'aho, it has to be said his lineout throwing went to pot after a while.
One who didn't play well — at least not in his core areas — after coming on was Perenara. Whatever skills he may have once had as a halfback have long gone.
Despite his stated preference for playing at fullback, I much prefer Havili at 12. At 15, at least for the Crusaders, he was a complete ball hog who ran as much sideways as he did forwards. Those opportunities don't exist at 12 and he's a much better player for it.
Yeah, Taukei'aho's throwing can be an issue, but he has time on his side. Remember the Dane Coles Award all those years ago? But I sure hope Aumua's fit, coz we're quickly running out of hookers.Certain Navigator wrote: ↑Sun Sep 05, 2021 9:57 pmMuch as I'm a fan of Taukei'aho, it has to be said his lineout throwing went to pot after a while.
One who didn't play well — at least not in his core areas — after coming on was Perenara. Whatever skills he may have once had as a halfback have long gone.
Despite his stated preference for playing at fullback, I much prefer Havili at 12. At 15, at least for the Crusaders, he was a complete ball hog who ran as much sideways as he did forwards. Those opportunities don't exist at 12 and he's a much better player for it.
I was really worried about Havili at 12 and prior to this season I don't think he'd played well there at all, but very happy he's proved me wrong this year. My main concern was how he'd cope with the extra pressure on defence in the midfield, but he appears to be one of those players who plays better with less time to respond or think about what he's going to do in any given situation - that's my tin pot theory, anyway. Great instincts and reflexes, and he loves scoring tries which is nice. The acid test will be how he copes with the Bok behemoths, though.
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Yep we can't look further then the next match.
True, but I will unfortunately miss that game.
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Very true. Take it one match at a time. Aussie will have been targeting the 2 tests vs SA.
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Nienaber will start with his strongest starting XV and bench. Its 4 in a row , so at some stage he'll need to rest some of them. Our lot haven't played in front of crowds, that will help the Wallabies a lot. We saw in Benneton what massive difference it made to the home team.
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Not been impressed by the Wallabies at all. Having said that they will probably click and give us a stern test or even beat us. Playing such a green flyhalf is always going to result in inconsistent performance, Lolesio has a long way to go. I have been surprised at the poor performance of the Aus frontrowers and loose trio. They've been average against fairly inexperienced All Blacks counterparts.
Yep - I think a lot of people are underestimating the threat they are going to pose because the All Blacks took them apart so comprehensively. There is still a very good team in there with some serious attacking threats at the back. Koroibete and Kerevi are tanks. If they break the line it can get very ugly, very quickly.
I think we have them up front though. Their pack is a bit green and we might be able to shell-shock them. Time will tell.
How the referee polices the breakdown will be crucial as ever. Hope we can adapt and that it is done consistently, but I have no doubt it's going to be the focal point of the game. Either the Aussies are going to string together some fast phases and run us ragged, or we are going to blow them off the ball, disrupt every ruck, force penalties and maul them to death.
Our defense will be too strong for Aus.Blake wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 10:47 amYep - I think a lot of people are underestimating the threat they are going to pose because the All Blacks took them apart so comprehensively. There is still a very good team in there with some serious attacking threats at the back. Koroibete and Kerevi are tanks. If they break the line it can get very ugly, very quickly.
I think we have them up front though. Their pack is a bit green and we might be able to shell-shock them. Time will tell.
How the referee polices the breakdown will be crucial as ever. Hope we can adapt and that it is done consistently, but I have no doubt it's going to be the focal point of the game. Either the Aussies are going to string together some fast phases and run us ragged, or we are going to blow them off the ball, disrupt every ruck, force penalties and maul them to death.
Koroibete and Kerevi are the only 2 that look useful and they are the constant go to. It's very predictable. If we don't win by 20 we are going to be slaughtered by the ABS. Our forwards will destroy the Aussies forwards. Our backline has far too much pace for their backs....
At the risk of sounding arrogant, I think you're giving Australia too much credit.
Three games in a row they've been spanked by the NZ team that didn't even seem to be trying most of the time. They are incredibly disorganised in both defence and attack, and if the Boks can bring the same intensity from the Lions series then we should win comfortably. Their flyhalf looks like a total liability, reminds me of Bosch. Pack looks lightweight and could be in for a very long afternoon.
Three games in a row they've been spanked by the NZ team that didn't even seem to be trying most of the time. They are incredibly disorganised in both defence and attack, and if the Boks can bring the same intensity from the Lions series then we should win comfortably. Their flyhalf looks like a total liability, reminds me of Bosch. Pack looks lightweight and could be in for a very long afternoon.
Dear Mocker God's,assfly wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:10 am At the risk of sounding arrogant, I think you're giving Australia too much credit.
Three games in a row they've been spanked by the NZ team that didn't even seem to be trying most of the time. They are incredibly disorganised in both defence and attack, and if the Boks can bring the same intensity from the Lions series then we should win comfortably. Their flyhalf looks like a total liability, reminds me of Bosch. Pack looks lightweight and could be in for a very long afternoon.
Please don't punish the rest of us for the arrogance of the $harks supporters
Play to lose and you will.Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:16 amDear Mocker God's,assfly wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:10 am At the risk of sounding arrogant, I think you're giving Australia too much credit.
Three games in a row they've been spanked by the NZ team that didn't even seem to be trying most of the time. They are incredibly disorganised in both defence and attack, and if the Boks can bring the same intensity from the Lions series then we should win comfortably. Their flyhalf looks like a total liability, reminds me of Bosch. Pack looks lightweight and could be in for a very long afternoon.
Please don't punish the rest of us for the arrogance of the $harks supporters
I don't get this demonization of Sharks supporters. Like we are not allowed to support the boks even though we have the most players there and we actually pay our players.
We all know that history has absolutely no relevance today. Look what the boks have done against the grain.
A RWC after losing a pool game. Losing the first BILs match and winning the series
Lad, with all due respect, you only started watching rugby a little while back.
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When the $hark$ supporters read to much Keo and speaking about World Champs then the rest of us must start worry. The Springboks only play well as underdogs and losing to the Wallabies ain't the best team to lose.Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:16 amDear Mocker God's,assfly wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:10 am At the risk of sounding arrogant, I think you're giving Australia too much credit.
Three games in a row they've been spanked by the NZ team that didn't even seem to be trying most of the time. They are incredibly disorganised in both defence and attack, and if the Boks can bring the same intensity from the Lions series then we should win comfortably. Their flyhalf looks like a total liability, reminds me of Bosch. Pack looks lightweight and could be in for a very long afternoon.
Please don't punish the rest of us for the arrogance of the $harks supporters
Sjoe, stadig oom, dis nou eers kwart voor 2. Wag eers tot die boeing oor is.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 amWhen the $hark$ supporters read to much Keo and speaking about World Champs then the rest of us must start worry. The Springboks only play well as underdogs and losing to the Wallabies ain't the best team to lose.Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:16 amDear Mocker God's,assfly wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:10 am At the risk of sounding arrogant, I think you're giving Australia too much credit.
Three games in a row they've been spanked by the NZ team that didn't even seem to be trying most of the time. They are incredibly disorganised in both defence and attack, and if the Boks can bring the same intensity from the Lions series then we should win comfortably. Their flyhalf looks like a total liability, reminds me of Bosch. Pack looks lightweight and could be in for a very long afternoon.
Please don't punish the rest of us for the arrogance of the $harks supporters
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I don't read Keo. Just call it based on the game I watched on Sunday morning.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Sep 06, 2021 11:44 am When the $hark$ supporters read to much Keo and speaking about World Champs then the rest of us must start worry. The Springboks only play well as underdogs and losing to the Wallabies ain't the best team to lose.
We will not be the underdogs this weekend. We will rightfully be the favorites.
It would take a monumental turn of form for Australia to beat us. Let's wait and see what they can do.
Edit: I see that Cooper and O'Conner may be in the mix. I may adjust my predications slightly if they are selected