The Brexit Thread

[tabascoboy]

“We are experiencing some supply problems with both Carling and Coors, which means that some pubs do not have the products available".

Sounds like a win to me

[SaintK]

Those little bumps in the road to our prosperity are not getting mended

Exclusive: New figures show a sharp fall in food and drink sales to the European Union in the first half of this year has led to the industry being £2bn down on pre-pandemic levels, with post-Brexit trade barriers believed to be the principal cause.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/arti ... n-report

[tabascoboy]

Those little bumps in the road to our prosperity are not getting mended

Exclusive: New figures show a sharp fall in food and drink sales to the European Union in the first half of this year has led to the industry being £2bn down on pre-pandemic levels, with post-Brexit trade barriers believed to be the principal cause.

https://www.politicshome.com/news/arti ... n-report

No need to worry, all that effort on cheese deals to far flung parts has paid off

cheese exports to non-EU countries in H1 were up 14% on the year.

Cheese will save us!

[Rinkals]

Indeed.

The sky hasn't fallen in. (Yet).

[Insane_Homer]

More Brexit shit, literally!

[fishfoodie]

More Brexit shit, literally!

I hope none of this extra shit ends up running into any of the few British waters still able to export shellfish, & molluscs; or that really will be the end of them !

[tabascoboy]

More "wins"?

PayPal raises fees between UK and Europe

PayPal is introducing new fees for payments between businesses in the UK and those in Europe, from November. British businesses will be charged a 1.29% fee for payments from the European Economic Area and vice versa.

Most currently pay about 0.5% in similar charges, which have remained unchanged since before the UK left the EU customs union and single market. PayPal said it was now incurring extra costs, such as the rise in interchange fees between the UK and EEA.

European rules capping credit and debit card interchange fees at 0.2% and 0.3% no longer apply to UK businesses.

And both Visa and Mastercard have announced they will raise them fivefold from mid-October.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-58492953

[Uncle fester]

I see the DUP are threatening... Something... If the Brexit deal doesn't get renegotiated the way they want.

[fishfoodie]

I see the DUP are threatening... Something... If the Brexit deal doesn't get renegotiated the way they want.

As ever; Mel Brooks has been good enough to give us a hint



Because, as you, & I know; the EU & Irish Governments are well able to read newspapers; & opinion polls too; & they know that the DUP is thick as pigshit; but they still aren't thick enough to flush their well paid jobs in Stormont down the crapper; which is what'd happen if there was an election in the next 3-6 months !

Of course in 6-9 months, then, it'll be a lot harder for the DUP, & the other mouth breathers to sustain the outrage about any disruption, because I expect most of the businesses to have re-organized their supply chains by then to avoid the UK border, as much as possible.

The cherry on the cake is that if there is an election called; the Unionist vote will fragment; & the Shinners will have a majority; & get FM, & the bloodletting inside the DUP will be epic.

[dpedin]

Brexit becomes real for Embra middle classes now ... Mellis cheese shop in Morningside has run out of Comte cheese. Deliveries from France badly interrupted and stock has run out. Thankfully found a small supply in Waitrose up the road though! Should I stock up?

[Tichtheid]

Brexit becomes real for Embra middle classes now ... Mellis cheese shop in Morningside has run out of Comte cheese. Deliveries from France badly interrupted and stock has run out. Thankfully found a small supply in Waitrose up the road though! Should I stock up?

If they start messing with Valvona & Crolla’s stock there will be hell to pay.

[Biffer]

I see the DUP are threatening... Something... If the Brexit deal doesn't get renegotiated the way they want.

As ever; Mel Brooks has been good enough to give us a hint



Because, as you, & I know; the EU & Irish Governments are well able to read newspapers; & opinion polls too; & they know that the DUP is thick as pigshit; but they still aren't thick enough to flush their well paid jobs in Stormont down the crapper; which is what'd happen if there was an election in the next 3-6 months !

Of course in 6-9 months, then, it'll be a lot harder for the DUP, & the other mouth breathers to sustain the outrage about any disruption, because I expect most of the businesses to have re-organized their supply chains by then to avoid the UK border, as much as possible.

The cherry on the cake is that if there is an election called; the Unionist vote will fragment; & the Shinners will have a majority; & get FM, & the bloodletting inside the DUP will be epic.

Problem in NI is there’s always a risk that the bloodletting won’t be metaphorical.

[SaintK]

Wrong thread!!!

[dpedin]

Brexit becomes real for Embra middle classes now ... Mellis cheese shop in Morningside has run out of Comte cheese. Deliveries from France badly interrupted and stock has run out. Thankfully found a small supply in Waitrose up the road though! Should I stock up?

If they start messing with Valvona & Crolla’s stock there will be hell to pay.

It was bad enough when my golf club couldn't get its usual supply of premium frozen chips, nearly a feckin riot! Not sure how much longer we can hang on, Christmas could be a blood bath.

[Tichtheid]

Brexit becomes real for Embra middle classes now ... Mellis cheese shop in Morningside has run out of Comte cheese. Deliveries from France badly interrupted and stock has run out. Thankfully found a small supply in Waitrose up the road though! Should I stock up?

If they start messing with Valvona & Crolla’s stock there will be hell to pay.

It was bad enough when my golf club couldn't get its usual supply of premium frozen chips, nearly a feckin riot! Not sure how much longer we can hang on, Christmas could be a blood bath.

What is it the Brexiteers say? "This isn't the Brexit I voted for."

Well it's damn sure the Brexit I voted against.

[tabascoboy]

Christ alive...

Boris Johnson is to announce the return of imperial weights and measures, making it legal for market stalls, shops and supermarkets to sell their goods using only Britain’s traditional weighing system post-Brexit

[Rinkals]

Ah!

The return of the pint pot!

The abolition of metres and the reinstatement of feet and inches will be next.

I am, of course, being facetious, but this does tend to confirm that Brexit was largely nostalgia driven, rather than being of any practical benefit.

[robmatic]

Christ alive...

Boris Johnson is to announce the return of imperial weights and measures, making it legal for market stalls, shops and supermarkets to sell their goods using only Britain’s traditional weighing system post-Brexit

Surely this will just open the way for retailers to rip off consumers, because nobody under the age of 60 has a clue about imperial measures. Yes, people will know what a pint or pound looks like, but they aren't used to doing the rest of the mental arithmetic that goes along with it. I'd have to google how many ounces are in a pound.

[tabascoboy]

Christ alive...

Boris Johnson is to announce the return of imperial weights and measures, making it legal for market stalls, shops and supermarkets to sell their goods using only Britain’s traditional weighing system post-Brexit

Surely this will just open the way for retailers to rip off consumers, because nobody under the age of 60 has a clue about imperial measures. Yes, people will know what a pint or pound looks like, but they aren't used to doing the rest of the mental arithmetic that goes along with it. I'd have to google how many ounces are in a pound.

It's just typical of this government that want a quick easy "win" based on pointless nostalgia trying to distract us from the ongoing shitshow that is worsening right in front of us

[Rinkals]

Christ alive...

Boris Johnson is to announce the return of imperial weights and measures, making it legal for market stalls, shops and supermarkets to sell their goods using only Britain’s traditional weighing system post-Brexit

Surely this will just open the way for retailers to rip off consumers, because nobody under the age of 60 has a clue about imperial measures. Yes, people will know what a pint or pound looks like, but they aren't used to doing the rest of the mental arithmetic that goes along with it. I'd have to google how many ounces are in a pound.

Indeed.

There doesn't seem to be any practical benefit (apart from making it harder to detect fraud).

However, the older generation, who remember using these measures and who voted for Brexit, probably hanker after an era when there were twenty shillings in a pound, so it's probably a popular move with them.

[Paddington Bear]

I can't be the only person who has realised that markets only really trade in imperial units anyway? The fact they've stuck a kg sign down in front notwithstanding.

[sturginho]

I for one can't wait to go back to pre-decimal currency

[Paddington Bear]

There's something fascinating about the transitory nature of nostalgia. No doubt in 40 years time the Tory government will call for the return of maroon passports.

[Calculon]

I can't be the only person who has realised that markets only really trade in imperial units anyway? The fact they've stuck a kg sign down in front notwithstanding.

Not the ones I went to in London

[Hal Jordan]

There's something fascinating about the transitory nature of nostalgia. No doubt in 40 years time the Tory government will call for the return of maroon passports.

Another twenty or so years and my cohort will be pensioners, demanding the reissue of the Super Nintendo, check flannel shirts and decrying the reboot of Spaced.

[inactionman]

More Brexit shit, literally!

Is that 'the' Feargal Sharkey?

[inactionman]

Christ alive...

Surely this will just open the way for retailers to rip off consumers, because nobody under the age of 60 has a clue about imperial measures. Yes, people will know what a pint or pound looks like, but they aren't used to doing the rest of the mental arithmetic that goes along with it. I'd have to google how many ounces are in a pound.

Indeed.

There doesn't seem to be any practical benefit (apart from making it harder to detect fraud).

However, the older generation, who remember using these measures and who voted for Brexit, probably hanker after an era when there were twenty shillings in a pound, so it's probably a popular move with them.

I'll admit to getting a nostalgic thrill when ordering a quarter pound of chewy nuts (not what some might think) but anything that needs me to go from ounces to pounds is going to end badly.

I've had our grocery delivery give me one solitary mushroom and five punnets of apples (getting the amounts wrong at both ends of scale), god alone knows what I'll have ended up getting if I tried to use imperial.

[tabascoboy]

More Brexit shit, literally!

Is that 'the' Feargal Sharkey?

Yes he's heavily into fishing and is pretty active campaigning about the state of our rivers. He has a good heart

[SaintK]

There's something fascinating about the transitory nature of nostalgia. No doubt in 40 years time the Tory government will call for the return of maroon passports.

Another twenty or so years and my cohort will be pensioners, demanding the reissue of the Super Nintendo, check flannel shirts and decrying the reboot of Spaced.

Some of us are unlikely to be here at all in 20 or so years

[tabascoboy]

There's something fascinating about the transitory nature of nostalgia. No doubt in 40 years time the Tory government will call for the return of maroon passports.

Another twenty or so years and my cohort will be pensioners, demanding the reissue of the Super Nintendo, check flannel shirts and decrying the reboot of Spaced.

Some of us are unlikely to be here at all in 20 or so years

Me for one, and getting ever more glad of that TBH

[Tichtheid]

I don’t know about the other stuff but I’ve been wearing checked flannel shirts for fifty years.

I’ve been fashionable at least three times.

[Hal Jordan]

I don’t know about the other stuff but I’ve been wearing checked flannel shirts for fifty years.

I’ve been fashionable at least three times.

Fashion is cyclical.

"We wore those <insert garment here> the first time around, kid, and it looked just as shit then as it does now."

[Insane_Homer]

Is that 'the' Feargal Sharkey?

Yus

[tabascoboy]

Turns out the Government now realize that many Imperial units are not inherently British, being derived from Roman system of measurement so are now proposing another reform to legalize commericial usage as follows:

[Tichtheid]

The UK weights and measures system is stupid, we never fully adopted the metric system, so people of my generation are comfortable with grams and kilos but count body weight in stones, height in feet and inches, but measure for building in m, cm and mm, oh and there’s another thing, we used to buy timber in metric feet (300mm) units.

Counting in tens and hundreds is far easier than 3s 12s 14s and 16s, mm are far easier to read than 8ths and 16ths.

Oh and whilst I’m at it, a cubic meter of water has mass of one tonne, a tonne = a thousand kg, 1 litre of water = 1kg. 1ml has mass of 1 gram.

What could be simpler?

I can’t be arsed doing the same for pennyweights ounces pounds stones tons

[Calculon]

Do young people like school kids still use stones and feet for weight and height in the UK?

[tabascoboy]

The main issue for consumers is one of standardization and the opportunity for deliberate confusion: if one place is metric and another imperial only for example; which is cheaper, £1 per lb or £2 per kilo? But then those insistent buying in imperial probably wouldn't care if they were overcharged for the privilege. Anyone remember how metrication and decimalization was viewed as a way to increase prices by stealth?

And this is less about "choice" per se than a distraction exercise and the chance of an apparent post Brexit win even though as is patently obvious through our formal adoption of the metric system in 1965 and continued use of miles and pints this is not a "victory" against EU legislation.

Well, any trader who insists on selling only by weight or liquid in imperial units, I shall insist on buying by the pennyweight and gill.

[Tichtheid]

Do young people like school kids still use stones and feet for weight and height in the UK?

My children are in their early to mid 20s, they and their friends use imperial for weight and height of people.

[Tichtheid]

The main issue for consumers is one of standardization and the opportunity for deliberate confusion: if one place is metric and another imperial only for example; which is cheaper, £1 per lb or £2 per kilo? But then those insistent buying in imperial probably wouldn't care if they were overcharged for the privilege. Anyone remember how metrication and decimalization was viewed as a way to increase prices by stealth?

And this is less about "choice" per se than a distraction exercise and the chance of an apparent post Brexit win even though as is patently obvious through our formal adoption of the metric system in 1965 and continued use of miles and pints this is not a "victory" against EU legislation.

Well, any trader who insists on selling only by weight or liquid in imperial units, I shall insist on buying by the pennyweight and gill.

As a friend of mine said, here’s an easy conversion for the current state of supermarkets

0oz = 0g
0lb = 0kg

[Rinkals]

The UK weights and measures system is stupid, we never fully adopted the metric system, so people of my generation are comfortable with grams and kilos but count body weight in stones, height in feet and inches, but measure for building in m, cm and mm, oh and there’s another thing, we used to buy timber in metric feet (300mm) units.

Counting in tens and hundreds is far easier than 3s 12s 14s and 16s, mm are far easier to read than 8ths and 16ths.

Oh and whilst I’m at it, a cubic meter of water has mass of one tonne, a tonne = a thousand kg, 1 litre of water = 1kg. 1ml has mass of 1 gram.

What could be simpler?

I can’t be arsed doing the same for pennyweights ounces pounds stones tons

I worked on the Gorilla V jackup, which was designed in Aberdeen and built in Brownsville, Texas.

All drawings had to be converted to feet and inches before being sent over to the States.