Rugby Championship Match Thread - Sat 2nd - SA v NZ / Arg v Aus
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Foster and Plums have everything under control.
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It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
Rather release them.average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
Let them get game time
These ballies have been coached in this fashion so will struggle to change which will be a headache for Nienaber and the team.
They can get some rest and prepare for the NH tour and use their gameplan over there more successfully.
It's hard to watch your union struggle because all your top players are scrum and tackle bags for Rassie's starting side
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A lost cause? Chilli wants another coach, for him winning is everything.average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
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StuffGumboot wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:16 amNow you're just being silly. Perhaps you should stop reading stuff.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:11 amYou all read stuff or whatever. Your own teams do it in the NPC.
Bro, if the All Blacks were pulling this shit to slow the game down we'd all be screaming blue murder.
Moody caused a lot of scrum resets and penalties after Fat Frans dominated him. Now he blame the Springboks. This is the kak you lot read and troll all over the place.Moody also enjoyed the scrum battle. “They’re big, powerful men and the different aspects of the technicalities they bring also challenges, as well as the pure power and size of them. It’s always a good challenge,” he said.
But it can also be a frustrating one when the scrum calls are going against you, as they were at times on Saturday with English referee Luke Pearce.
“We know their tightheads like to angle in and attack our hookers, that sort of carry on,” said Moody of the Boks’ scrum approach. “Even the way they set up on the bind, put a bit of lean-through with their No 8s firing early to trigger their scrum … there are technicalities that are different but unless you really love scrummaging, it’s probably going to bore you.”
There's Covid happening you muppet. None of them can just go to Europe and play.Sards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:53 amRather release them.average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
Let them get game time
The longer it's delayed the longer it takes to get them on the pitch...if they are not playing this week let them start the protocols...Sandstorm wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:36 amThere's Covid happening you muppet. None of them can just go to Europe and play.Sards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:53 amRather release them.average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
Let them get game time
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I know you're on the troll here but regardless of that I'm still going with you're an idiot. Teams cant travel light with Covid protocols. Rugby is a game of attrition, players can get injured anytime, even in training. You cant just call someone up on short notice now "jump on a plane, we'll see you on Saturday" If you lose players you have to replace them with what you've got in the bubble. But I'm sure you already know this.Sards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:53 amRather release them.average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
Let them get game time
These ballies have been coached in this fashion so will struggle to change which will be a headache for Nienaber and the team.
They can get some rest and prepare for the NH tour and use their gameplan over there more successfully.
It's hard to watch your union struggle because all your top players are scrum and tackle bags for Rassie's starting side
The National team takes precedent over your fokon provincial unions troubles. It's not the Springboks fault if the sharks don't have enough depth. If the sharks does not want to give up their players, perhaps SARU should pull their funding. Maybe, to satisfy supporters like you, the Sharks should include a clause in it's player contract, that if you play for them you cant be picked for the national team.
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Shitty selections : Rosco Specman, Rynhardt Elstadt, Fat Frans, Damian Willemse
Jesse Kriel, the Dup brothers and maybe even Cobus Reinach could have added an extra dimenstion.
Dweba, Grant Williams and Ox Nche need to be given some serious game time at EOYT. And what the heck, give Elton a few tests. Worst case scenario he flakes and we can use the evidence to bin him forever. Best case scenario he shows his worth as a steady hand and we can use him as a backup for another couple of years.
Jesse Kriel, the Dup brothers and maybe even Cobus Reinach could have added an extra dimenstion.
Dweba, Grant Williams and Ox Nche need to be given some serious game time at EOYT. And what the heck, give Elton a few tests. Worst case scenario he flakes and we can use the evidence to bin him forever. Best case scenario he shows his worth as a steady hand and we can use him as a backup for another couple of years.
Definitely not on a troll. I miss watching my side play like I know they can. Our players are wasted there. I am talking about our youngsters...I realize there are already a few deeply entrenched players who can't leave. No vok. You are still lost in amateur land. The world has evolved. We want to see the players play...average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:50 am
I know you're on the troll here but regardless of that I'm still going with you're an idiot. Teams cant travel light with Covid protocols. Rugby is a game of attrition, players can get injured anytime, even in training. You cant just call someone up on short notice now "jump on a plane, we'll see you on Saturday" If you lose players you have to replace them with what you've got in the bubble. But I'm sure you already know this.
The National team takes precedent over your fokon provincial unions troubles. It's not the Springboks fault if the sharks don't have enough depth. If the sharks does not want to give up their players, perhaps SARU should pull their funding. Maybe, to satisfy supporters like you, the Sharks should include a clause in it's player contract, that if you play for them you cant be picked for the national team.
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Elton is rubbish. He's such an emotional player, he makes one mistake and the rest of his game goes to shit. There was a game we played a few years back that I watched with my BIL. I told my BIL just before Elton's first kick at post that if he misses we'll lose. Sure as fok he missed and sure as fok we lost. He had a terrible game after that first kick, he miss fielded a high kick with no defender in sight, he knocked a pass, He threw a forward pass and kicked out on the full. It was a horror show. Every time the ball looked to go in his direction we yelled "fokon Elton" before he could even make the fokop and like a finely engineered swiss watch, every time he foked it op.
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Why cant they play the way you know they can? Because they lost a few players to the National team? This is not unique to the sharks.Sards wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:58 amDefinitely not on a troll. I miss watching my side play like I know they can. Our players are wasted there. I am talking about our youngsters...I realize there are already a few deeply entrenched players who can't leave. No vok. You are still lost in amateur land. The world has evolved. We want to see the players play...average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:50 am
I know you're on the troll here but regardless of that I'm still going with you're an idiot. Teams cant travel light with Covid protocols. Rugby is a game of attrition, players can get injured anytime, even in training. You cant just call someone up on short notice now "jump on a plane, we'll see you on Saturday" If you lose players you have to replace them with what you've got in the bubble. But I'm sure you already know this.
The National team takes precedent over your fokon provincial unions troubles. It's not the Springboks fault if the sharks don't have enough depth. If the sharks does not want to give up their players, perhaps SARU should pull their funding. Maybe, to satisfy supporters like you, the Sharks should include a clause in it's player contract, that if you play for them you cant be picked for the national team.
It's an honour to represent your country. Those players will tell you to fokof.
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He also got to 3 consecutive Super rugby final in 2016,2017,2018. Only Morne Steyn has a better record at Super rugby level for South African franchises. He was absolutely integral to the Lions success in those seasons. I can name half a dozen Bok flyhalfs who are equal or worse to Elton. Braam VS, Jannie de Beer, Andries Pretorius, Louis Koen, Gaffie du Toit and Jaco van der Westhuizen.average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:06 pm Elton is rubbish. He's such an emotional player, he makes one mistake and the rest of his game goes to shit. There was a game we played a few years back that I watched with my BIL. I told my BIL just before Elton's first kick at post that if he misses we'll lose. Sure as fok he missed and sure as fok we lost. He had a terrible game after that first kick, he miss fielded a high kick with no defender in sight, he knocked a pass, He threw a forward pass and kicked out on the full. It was a horror show. Every time the ball looked to go in his direction we yelled "fokon Elton" before he could even make the fokop and like a finely engineered swiss watch, every time he foked it op.
Flyhalf has been the Springboks weakest position since 1992. Honiball was a great runner and defender but average off the tee and as a tactical kicker. Stransky was fairly well rounded but probably overrated. Morne had and has a golden boot but is frankly a carthorse.
If we had uncovered a Dan Carter in 2010 our results would have been vastly different.
Everyone telling us we are the most boring team ever is telling little fibs and are going to feel the wrath of the boks this coming weekend. It's in our DNA...beware the wounded Springbok.
As it should beOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:31 amA lost cause? Chilli wants another coach, for him winning is everything.average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
If we had a Dan Carter our dog shit poor coaches would have said "skop die fokken bal weg" like they have done to every bokken 10 we have had since Lem.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:38 pmHe also got to 3 consecutive Super rugby final in 2016,2017,2018. Only Morne Steyn has a better record at Super rugby level for South African franchises. He was absolutely integral to the Lions success in those seasons. I can name half a dozen Bok flyhalfs who are equal or worse to Elton. Braam VS, Jannie de Beer, Andries Pretorius, Louis Koen, Gaffie du Toit and Jaco van der Westhuizen.average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:06 pm Elton is rubbish. He's such an emotional player, he makes one mistake and the rest of his game goes to shit. There was a game we played a few years back that I watched with my BIL. I told my BIL just before Elton's first kick at post that if he misses we'll lose. Sure as fok he missed and sure as fok we lost. He had a terrible game after that first kick, he miss fielded a high kick with no defender in sight, he knocked a pass, He threw a forward pass and kicked out on the full. It was a horror show. Every time the ball looked to go in his direction we yelled "fokon Elton" before he could even make the fokop and like a finely engineered swiss watch, every time he foked it op.
Flyhalf has been the Springboks weakest position since 1992. Honiball was a great runner and defender but average off the tee and as a tactical kicker. Stransky was fairly well rounded but probably overrated. Morne had and has a golden boot but is frankly a carthorse.
If we had uncovered a Dan Carter in 2010 our results would have been vastly different.
Our problem doesn't lie with the players. Our problems are with the administration like Zelt, and the coaches like HM, AC and Ra$$naber
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Jens complained for ages about the coaches. Finally you are on his level.Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:31 pmAs it should beOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:31 amA lost cause? Chilli wants another coach, for him winning is everything.average joe wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
I have lost all hope as well Ouboet. Vok it being the Springboks and the national side. Today I decided that if all that Nienaber can do is follow on with the same game plan and not stamp his own authority on the team, well then there he doesn't have the balls to be the coachOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:40 pmJens complained for ages about the coaches. Finally you are on his level.Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:31 pmAs it should beOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:31 am
A lost cause? Chilli wants another coach, for him winning is everything.
As long as you are happy with 3 losses on the trot.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:40 pmJens complained for ages about the coaches. Finally you are on his level.Chilli wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:31 pmAs it should beOomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:31 am
A lost cause? Chilli wants another coach, for him winning is everything.
I can't believe they would risk starting him. As you say, bench option at best. Unless BB is injured... would you start DMac?
2 changes to the Bok squad:
I hope Herschel has been training hard for his 3 minutes of glory at the end.South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sibusiso Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Francois de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Albertus Smith, 6 Siyamthanda Kolisi (captain), 5 Lodewyk de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Mbongeni Mbonambi, 1 Retshegofaditswe Nché.
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Jasper Wiese, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Frans Steyn.
assfly wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:27 am 2 changes to the Bok squad:
I hope Herschel has been training hard for his 3 minutes of glory at the end.South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sibusiso Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Francois de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Albertus Smith, 6 Siyamthanda Kolisi (captain), 5 Lodewyk de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Mbongeni Mbonambi, 1 Retshegofaditswe Nché.
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Jasper Wiese, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Frans Steyn.
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2 changes... wow!assfly wrote: ↑Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:27 am 2 changes to the Bok squad:
I hope Herschel has been training hard for his 3 minutes of glory at the end.South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sibusiso Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Francois de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Albertus Smith, 6 Siyamthanda Kolisi (captain), 5 Lodewyk de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Mbongeni Mbonambi, 1 Retshegofaditswe Nché.
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Jasper Wiese, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Frans Steyn.
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If I were either one of Morne, the twins, Wilco, Frans, Elton, Rynhardt, Fassi, Cobus, Jesse, Johan, Dweba, Rosco... after months on tour and zero game time I would say fudge you and stay at home during the EOYT.
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Elton must have forgotten what his own game is by now, bravely imitating the opposition's 10 week in week out for months... maybe he is the pefect flyhalf now, a mixture of only the strenghts of Finn Russel, Biggar, Quade and BB. Time to release him.
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they only fly out to France on the Oct 20th. So 2.5 weeks in SA from Sunday on I guess
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