Rugby Championship Match Thread - Sat 2nd - SA v NZ / Arg v Aus

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Sandstorm wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 3:27 pm Boks will make lots of changes, bring in under-cooked players and play the same game plan again. This time the Kiwis won’t be bullied.

ABs by 30
They never change the team......
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It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
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average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
Rather release them.

Let them get game time

These ballies have been coached in this fashion so will struggle to change which will be a headache for Nienaber and the team.

They can get some rest and prepare for the NH tour and use their gameplan over there more successfully.

It's hard to watch your union struggle because all your top players are scrum and tackle bags for Rassie's starting side
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average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
A lost cause? Chilli wants another coach, for him winning is everything.
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Gumboot wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:16 am
OomStruisbaai wrote: Sun Sep 26, 2021 6:11 amYou all read stuff or whatever. Your own teams do it in the NPC.
Now you're just being silly. Perhaps you should stop reading stuff.

Bro, if the All Blacks were pulling this shit to slow the game down we'd all be screaming blue murder.
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Moody also enjoyed the scrum battle. “They’re big, powerful men and the different aspects of the technicalities they bring also challenges, as well as the pure power and size of them. It’s always a good challenge,” he said.
But it can also be a frustrating one when the scrum calls are going against you, as they were at times on Saturday with English referee Luke Pearce.
“We know their tightheads like to angle in and attack our hookers, that sort of carry on,” said Moody of the Boks’ scrum approach. “Even the way they set up on the bind, put a bit of lean-through with their No 8s firing early to trigger their scrum … there are technicalities that are different but unless you really love scrummaging, it’s probably going to bore you.”
Moody caused a lot of scrum resets and penalties after Fat Frans dominated him. Now he blame the Springboks. This is the kak you lot read and troll all over the place.
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:53 am
average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
Rather release them.

Let them get game time
There's Covid happening you muppet. None of them can just go to Europe and play. :crazy:
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:36 am
Sards wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:53 am
average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
Rather release them.

Let them get game time
There's Covid happening you muppet. None of them can just go to Europe and play. :crazy:
The longer it's delayed the longer it takes to get them on the pitch...if they are not playing this week let them start the protocols...
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Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:36 am There's Covid happening you muppet. None of them can just go to Europe and play. :crazy:
What if we disguise them all as HGV drivers?
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assfly wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:46 am
Sandstorm wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:36 am There's Covid happening you muppet. None of them can just go to Europe and play. :crazy:
What if we disguise them all as HGV drivers?
Truck & trailer? Penalty.
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:53 am
average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
Rather release them.

Let them get game time

These ballies have been coached in this fashion so will struggle to change which will be a headache for Nienaber and the team.

They can get some rest and prepare for the NH tour and use their gameplan over there more successfully.

It's hard to watch your union struggle because all your top players are scrum and tackle bags for Rassie's starting side
I know you're on the troll here but regardless of that I'm still going with you're an idiot. Teams cant travel light with Covid protocols. Rugby is a game of attrition, players can get injured anytime, even in training. You cant just call someone up on short notice now "jump on a plane, we'll see you on Saturday" If you lose players you have to replace them with what you've got in the bubble. But I'm sure you already know this.

The National team takes precedent over your fokon provincial unions troubles. It's not the Springboks fault if the sharks don't have enough depth. If the sharks does not want to give up their players, perhaps SARU should pull their funding. Maybe, to satisfy supporters like you, the Sharks should include a clause in it's player contract, that if you play for them you cant be picked for the national team.
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Shitty selections : Rosco Specman, Rynhardt Elstadt, Fat Frans, Damian Willemse
Jesse Kriel, the Dup brothers and maybe even Cobus Reinach could have added an extra dimenstion.
Dweba, Grant Williams and Ox Nche need to be given some serious game time at EOYT. And what the heck, give Elton a few tests. Worst case scenario he flakes and we can use the evidence to bin him forever. Best case scenario he shows his worth as a steady hand and we can use him as a backup for another couple of years.
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average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:50 am

I know you're on the troll here but regardless of that I'm still going with you're an idiot. Teams cant travel light with Covid protocols. Rugby is a game of attrition, players can get injured anytime, even in training. You cant just call someone up on short notice now "jump on a plane, we'll see you on Saturday" If you lose players you have to replace them with what you've got in the bubble. But I'm sure you already know this.

The National team takes precedent over your fokon provincial unions troubles. It's not the Springboks fault if the sharks don't have enough depth. If the sharks does not want to give up their players, perhaps SARU should pull their funding. Maybe, to satisfy supporters like you, the Sharks should include a clause in it's player contract, that if you play for them you cant be picked for the national team.
Definitely not on a troll. I miss watching my side play like I know they can. Our players are wasted there. I am talking about our youngsters...I realize there are already a few deeply entrenched players who can't leave. No vok. You are still lost in amateur land. The world has evolved. We want to see the players play...
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Elton is rubbish. He's such an emotional player, he makes one mistake and the rest of his game goes to shit. There was a game we played a few years back that I watched with my BIL. I told my BIL just before Elton's first kick at post that if he misses we'll lose. Sure as fok he missed and sure as fok we lost. He had a terrible game after that first kick, he miss fielded a high kick with no defender in sight, he knocked a pass, He threw a forward pass and kicked out on the full. It was a horror show. Every time the ball looked to go in his direction we yelled "fokon Elton" before he could even make the fokop and like a finely engineered swiss watch, every time he foked it op.
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Sards wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:58 am
average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 11:50 am

I know you're on the troll here but regardless of that I'm still going with you're an idiot. Teams cant travel light with Covid protocols. Rugby is a game of attrition, players can get injured anytime, even in training. You cant just call someone up on short notice now "jump on a plane, we'll see you on Saturday" If you lose players you have to replace them with what you've got in the bubble. But I'm sure you already know this.

The National team takes precedent over your fokon provincial unions troubles. It's not the Springboks fault if the sharks don't have enough depth. If the sharks does not want to give up their players, perhaps SARU should pull their funding. Maybe, to satisfy supporters like you, the Sharks should include a clause in it's player contract, that if you play for them you cant be picked for the national team.
Definitely not on a troll. I miss watching my side play like I know they can. Our players are wasted there. I am talking about our youngsters...I realize there are already a few deeply entrenched players who can't leave. No vok. You are still lost in amateur land. The world has evolved. We want to see the players play...
Why cant they play the way you know they can? Because they lost a few players to the National team? This is not unique to the sharks.

It's an honour to represent your country. Those players will tell you to fokof.
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average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:06 pm Elton is rubbish. He's such an emotional player, he makes one mistake and the rest of his game goes to shit. There was a game we played a few years back that I watched with my BIL. I told my BIL just before Elton's first kick at post that if he misses we'll lose. Sure as fok he missed and sure as fok we lost. He had a terrible game after that first kick, he miss fielded a high kick with no defender in sight, he knocked a pass, He threw a forward pass and kicked out on the full. It was a horror show. Every time the ball looked to go in his direction we yelled "fokon Elton" before he could even make the fokop and like a finely engineered swiss watch, every time he foked it op.
He also got to 3 consecutive Super rugby final in 2016,2017,2018. Only Morne Steyn has a better record at Super rugby level for South African franchises. He was absolutely integral to the Lions success in those seasons. I can name half a dozen Bok flyhalfs who are equal or worse to Elton. Braam VS, Jannie de Beer, Andries Pretorius, Louis Koen, Gaffie du Toit and Jaco van der Westhuizen.

Flyhalf has been the Springboks weakest position since 1992. Honiball was a great runner and defender but average off the tee and as a tactical kicker. Stransky was fairly well rounded but probably overrated. Morne had and has a golden boot but is frankly a carthorse.

If we had uncovered a Dan Carter in 2010 our results would have been vastly different.
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average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:14 pm

It's an honour to represent your country.

Everyone telling us we are the most boring team ever is telling little fibs and are going to feel the wrath of the boks this coming weekend. It's in our DNA...beware the wounded Springbok.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:31 am
average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
A lost cause? Chilli wants another coach, for him winning is everything.
As it should be
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FalseBayFC wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:38 pm
average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 12:06 pm Elton is rubbish. He's such an emotional player, he makes one mistake and the rest of his game goes to shit. There was a game we played a few years back that I watched with my BIL. I told my BIL just before Elton's first kick at post that if he misses we'll lose. Sure as fok he missed and sure as fok we lost. He had a terrible game after that first kick, he miss fielded a high kick with no defender in sight, he knocked a pass, He threw a forward pass and kicked out on the full. It was a horror show. Every time the ball looked to go in his direction we yelled "fokon Elton" before he could even make the fokop and like a finely engineered swiss watch, every time he foked it op.
He also got to 3 consecutive Super rugby final in 2016,2017,2018. Only Morne Steyn has a better record at Super rugby level for South African franchises. He was absolutely integral to the Lions success in those seasons. I can name half a dozen Bok flyhalfs who are equal or worse to Elton. Braam VS, Jannie de Beer, Andries Pretorius, Louis Koen, Gaffie du Toit and Jaco van der Westhuizen.

Flyhalf has been the Springboks weakest position since 1992. Honiball was a great runner and defender but average off the tee and as a tactical kicker. Stransky was fairly well rounded but probably overrated. Morne had and has a golden boot but is frankly a carthorse.

If we had uncovered a Dan Carter in 2010 our results would have been vastly different.
If we had a Dan Carter our dog shit poor coaches would have said "skop die fokken bal weg" like they have done to every bokken 10 we have had since Lem.

Our problem doesn't lie with the players. Our problems are with the administration like Zelt, and the coaches like HM, AC and Ra$$naber
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Ain't that no vokken joke.
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Chilli wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:31 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:31 am
average joe wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 7:24 am It's a lost cause anyways. Give the fringe guys a run. They've been payed handsomely for what? To sit on they're arses the whole tour?
A lost cause? Chilli wants another coach, for him winning is everything.
As it should be
Jens complained for ages about the coaches. Finally you are on his level.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:40 pm
Chilli wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:31 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:31 am

A lost cause? Chilli wants another coach, for him winning is everything.
As it should be
Jens complained for ages about the coaches. Finally you are on his level.
I have lost all hope as well Ouboet. Vok it being the Springboks and the national side. Today I decided that if all that Nienaber can do is follow on with the same game plan and not stamp his own authority on the team, well then there he doesn't have the balls to be the coach
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OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 6:40 pm
Chilli wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 5:31 pm
OomStruisbaai wrote: Mon Sep 27, 2021 8:31 am

A lost cause? Chilli wants another coach, for him winning is everything.
As it should be
Jens complained for ages about the coaches. Finally you are on his level.
As long as you are happy with 3 losses on the trot.
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Mo'unga champing at the bit and "available for selection". Not sure I'm keen on him coming straight back in to start. Bench option at best, I reckon.
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Gumboot wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:32 am Mo'unga champing at the bit and "available for selection". Not sure I'm keen on him coming straight back in to start. Bench option at best, I reckon.
I can't believe they would risk starting him. As you say, bench option at best. Unless BB is injured... would you start DMac?
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Grandpa wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 8:43 am
Gumboot wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 4:32 am Mo'unga champing at the bit and "available for selection". Not sure I'm keen on him coming straight back in to start. Bench option at best, I reckon.
I can't believe they would risk starting him. As you say, bench option at best. Unless BB is injured... would you start DMac?
Yeah, I think he's now a pretty solid test 10. But probably not an option at 15 against the Box...sorry, Boks.
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2 changes to the Bok squad:
South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sibusiso Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Francois de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Albertus Smith, 6 Siyamthanda Kolisi (captain), 5 Lodewyk de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Mbongeni Mbonambi, 1 Retshegofaditswe Nché.
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Jasper Wiese, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Frans Steyn.
I hope Herschel has been training hard for his 3 minutes of glory at the end.
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assfly wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:27 am 2 changes to the Bok squad:
South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sibusiso Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Francois de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Albertus Smith, 6 Siyamthanda Kolisi (captain), 5 Lodewyk de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Mbongeni Mbonambi, 1 Retshegofaditswe Nché.
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Jasper Wiese, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Frans Steyn.
I hope Herschel has been training hard for his 3 minutes of glory at the end.
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assfly wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:27 am 2 changes to the Bok squad:
South Africa: 15 Willie le Roux, 14 Sibusiso Nkosi, 13 Lukhanyo Am, 12 Damian de Allende, 11 Makazole Mapimpi, 10 Handré Pollard, 9 Francois de Klerk, 8 Duane Vermeulen, 7 Albertus Smith, 6 Siyamthanda Kolisi (captain), 5 Lodewyk de Jager, 4 Eben Etzebeth, 3 Trevor Nyakane, 2 Mbongeni Mbonambi, 1 Retshegofaditswe Nché.
Replacements: 16 Malcolm Marx, 17 Steven Kitshoff, 18 Vincent Koch, 19 Franco Mostert, 20 Jasper Wiese, 21 Herschel Jantjies, 22 Elton Jantjies, 23 Frans Steyn.
I hope Herschel has been training hard for his 3 minutes of glory at the end.
2 changes... wow!
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At least all the unused players are going to be nice and fresh when they return to their clubs and provinces.

Thanks for nothing Morne :lol:
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Please release the $harks players now.

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If I were either one of Morne, the twins, Wilco, Frans, Elton, Rynhardt, Fassi, Cobus, Jesse, Johan, Dweba, Rosco... after months on tour and zero game time I would say fudge you and stay at home during the EOYT.
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The Boks should be sponsored by Netflix. Because that's what most of them have been doing for the last 12 weeks.
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Elton must have forgotten what his own game is by now, bravely imitating the opposition's 10 week in week out for months... maybe he is the pefect flyhalf now, a mixture of only the strenghts of Finn Russel, Biggar, Quade and BB. Time to release him.
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assfly wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:36 am At least all the unused players are going to be nice and fresh when they return to their clubs and provinces.

Thanks for nothing Morne :lol:
Aren't they going straight from here to the year end?
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sorCrer wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:09 am
assfly wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 9:36 am At least all the unused players are going to be nice and fresh when they return to their clubs and provinces.

Thanks for nothing Morne :lol:
Aren't they going straight from here to the year end?
they only fly out to France on the Oct 20th. So 2.5 weeks in SA from Sunday on I guess
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Same team. Same tactics. Same result?
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No space for Kwagga Smith? I thought he was one of your better players on Saturday.

EDIT: :oops: :oops: Just realised his real name is Albertus.
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Gumboot wrote: Tue Sep 28, 2021 10:17 am Same team. Same tactics. Same result?
No, this time the margin will be bigger
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