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Dragster wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:44 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:38 pm
Dragster wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:28 pm Francis has no business playing rugby, concussed every game.
I stepped away for 10 minutes, did he get sparked again?
HIA didn’t come back on. His brain is farked, had some horrendous knocks and never lasts a game. Negligent.
Jesus. Someone needs to retire him if he won't do it himself. Won't know his own name by 40 at this rate.
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Agree on Francis, first game back, fails a HIA. He really should retire for his own safety. Hopefully Boyd will stop pissing around with a 6-2 bench now, finished the game a back down, with Biggar struggling and Mitchell on the wing.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:41 pm Can't begrudge Saints supporters enjoying the result, but scorelines like this aren't good for the league.
Well perhaps Worcester should spend time working out how to play rugby rather than just signing Van de Merwe and Sutherland on big money and expecting them to make a difference
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mos_eisely_ wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:08 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:41 pm Can't begrudge Saints supporters enjoying the result, but scorelines like this aren't good for the league.
Well perhaps Worcester should spend time working out how to play rugby rather than just signing Van de Merwe and Sutherland on big money and expecting them to make a difference
It's very frustrating, as Worcester bring through some decent players from their academy as well as their signings, but can't seem to get the coaching side of things right.

Even Falcons have managed to move away from being constant basement dwellers, but Worcester never seem to manage it.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:50 pm
Dragster wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:44 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:38 pm

I stepped away for 10 minutes, did he get sparked again?
HIA didn’t come back on. His brain is farked, had some horrendous knocks and never lasts a game. Negligent.
Jesus. Someone needs to retire him if he won't do it himself. Won't know his own name by 40 at this rate.
Yep, so much this!
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mos_eisely_ wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:08 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:41 pm Can't begrudge Saints supporters enjoying the result, but scorelines like this aren't good for the league.
Well perhaps Worcester should spend time working out how to play rugby rather than just signing Van de Merwe and Sutherland on big money and expecting them to make a difference
Don't get me wrong, all blame for getting thrashed sits squarely on the shoulders of Worcester and, frankly, I'm coming round to the idea of keeping the league at 12 teams and ditching them.

They have a history of splurging money on a few signings and hoping that'll sort them out.
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geordie_6 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:00 am
mos_eisely_ wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:08 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 8:41 pm Can't begrudge Saints supporters enjoying the result, but scorelines like this aren't good for the league.
Well perhaps Worcester should spend time working out how to play rugby rather than just signing Van de Merwe and Sutherland on big money and expecting them to make a difference
It's very frustrating, as Worcester bring through some decent players from their academy as well as their signings, but can't seem to get the coaching side of things right.

Even Falcons have managed to move away from being constant basement dwellers, but Worcester never seem to manage it.
When you've been as bad as them for as long as they have been it's difficult to attract good coaches and players. Moreso the latter, though, I would've thought. A player can have a couple of years at a crap team and still get picked up by someone better provided they weren't personally too poor. Coaches don't tend to get the same leeway.
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They have some injuries too, but still...

Splurge on your pack and a 9. They had Hougaard who won games for them before and i can't imagine wasps are paying him a huge amount as 2nd choice with good backups already.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 8:22 am
geordie_6 wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 7:00 am
mos_eisely_ wrote: Fri Oct 22, 2021 11:08 pm

Well perhaps Worcester should spend time working out how to play rugby rather than just signing Van de Merwe and Sutherland on big money and expecting them to make a difference
It's very frustrating, as Worcester bring through some decent players from their academy as well as their signings, but can't seem to get the coaching side of things right.

Even Falcons have managed to move away from being constant basement dwellers, but Worcester never seem to manage it.
When you've been as bad as them for as long as they have been it's difficult to attract good coaches and players. Moreso the latter, though, I would've thought. A player can have a couple of years at a crap team and still get picked up by someone better provided they weren't personally too poor. Coaches don't tend to get the same leeway.
They have brilliant facilities though so you would hope that would count for something.

The old owners, who I know very well, only really had it as a play thing, but I hoped the new ones might move the club forward
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LI will be looking to extend their impressive winless streak on the road to Exeter in today's televised game. A few injuries at 7, so a debut for Tom Pearson. Think they're trying to recreate the Alex Dombrandt magic, as he's also been plucked from BUCS rugby with Cardiff Met this summer.

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That's a bright start.
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Very promising opening 10, beating the clock at the moment.
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That's even brighter. May at least get a TBP
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Ha, Nick Mullins bigging up Mike Willemse’s darts made me give out a gallows chuckle
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That caps off the momentum shift that kicked in almost as soon as Irish scored their second.
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That was nice
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Staunch defence from Irish there. This is why I'm a fan of the drop out law change, that kind of D deserves rewarding and if you want to avoid it as an attacker, maybe try getting the ball wide where there might be some space rather than smashing into a collection of forwards over and over again.
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Ah, could have done with a few points at the end there.

In with a shout still though
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Very well taken try that.
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First ten minutes of each half have certainly been veyr profitable for Irish.
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That was lovely
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Another really well worked try. The clock is increasingly not Exeter's friend.
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Well I'll be. We may actually win this
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Forget I said that mockers
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Congrats, Irish. Bonus point wins down at Sandy Park don't come around often.

More ambitious in attack and thoroughly deserving of the result.
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Well if you're going to end a long winless streak, you may as well do it in style. Cracking performance
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Quins would appear to be developing a fetish for second half comebacks against the West Country.
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Some rumblings in the press (well, it appears to be from the rugby paper, if my third hand report is correct) that Bruce Craig is looking to sell up at Bath, apparently with James Dyson waiting in the wings.

Not sure that constitutes progress.
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Bookmakers not even offering odds on a Saracens win today. That's a bit harsh on Wasps.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sat Oct 23, 2021 3:50 pm Congrats, Irish. Bonus point wins down at Sandy Park don't come around often.

More ambitious in attack and thoroughly deserving of the result.
Yep, thoroughly well deserved win
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inactionman wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 8:30 am Some rumblings in the press (well, it appears to be from the rugby paper, if my third hand report is correct) that Bruce Craig is looking to sell up at Bath, apparently with James Dyson waiting in the wings.

Not sure that constitutes progress.
Yes, read that in TRP.
Dyson is already a major sponsor at Bath.
Not sure a change of ownership will make any difference unless they bring in a wiser, more experienced DoR and a change of culture.
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Craig is very wealthy but he's not Dyson level wealthy is he?

Dyson is Lansdowne level wealthy I think.
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Kawazaki wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 10:51 am Craig is very wealthy but he's not Dyson level wealthy is he?

Dyson is Lansdowne level wealthy I think.
Lansdowne isn't even close to Dyson's level of wealth.
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Fuck's sake. Another centre injured and it doesn't look good.


Dinsdale, not sure what your dotted posts are about, but are you aware that you can delete posts here?
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And now we've lost Cruse again, so a loanee from Doncaster runs on to play hooker.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:34 pm And now we've lost Cruse again, so a loanee from Doncaster runs on to play hooker.
Head injury two weeks running for Cruse?
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Dragster wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:36 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Sun Oct 24, 2021 2:34 pm And now we've lost Cruse again, so a loanee from Doncaster runs on to play hooker.
Head injury two weeks running for Cruse?
Not quite, he's missed the last 3 due to a head injury, this was his return.

At least we get Oghre back from suspension next week.
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Well at least we didn't concede a try bonus point in the first half unlike some teams have in games this season.

Already used four of the bench, three for injury. :cry:
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