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Great win - well done Ireland. Had to turn over after 15 overs of the reply. Paul Stirling loves playing England, eh?
Unimpressed with what I saw of Tom Curran with the ball, and we just have too many batsmen throwing wickets away at the moment, but I didn't think Ireland would be able to chase it down, let alone with 7 wickets in hand.
Unimpressed with what I saw of Tom Curran with the ball, and we just have too many batsmen throwing wickets away at the moment, but I didn't think Ireland would be able to chase it down, let alone with 7 wickets in hand.
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Tue Aug 04, 2020 8:52 pm Great win - well done Ireland. Had to turn over after 15 overs of the reply. Paul Stirling loves playing England, eh?
Unimpressed with what I saw of Tom Curran with the ball, and we just have too many batsmen throwing wickets away at the moment, but I didn't think Ireland would be able to chase it down, let alone with 7 wickets in hand.
Funny comment on Cricinfo with around 7 overs to go - English batting depth is great, but the bowling depth isn't there. That may or may not be true, but the bats significantly underperformed today which left the bowlers with a lot to do
Thanks for the reminder - turn on Sky Go to be faced with Shane Warne saying how much he loves Jos Buttler as a Test batsman - "he can take the game away from you" - and Ian Ward saying his keeping has been fantastic with no problems at all.
What have I ever done to you, Saint
What have I ever done to you, Saint
JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 9:47 am Thanks for the reminder - turn on Sky Go to be faced with Shane Warne saying how much he loves Jos Buttler as a Test batsman - "he can take the game away from you" - and Ian Ward saying his keeping has been fantastic with no problems at all.
What have I ever done to you, Saint
Fucksake. Buttler gets nowhere near a pretty decent stumping chance. Yeah, it bounced a bit more than expected, but that was hopeless.
Between captains who don't know how to use them and coaches who keep picking crap keepers, who'd be an English spinner these days eh?
Between captains who don't know how to use them and coaches who keep picking crap keepers, who'd be an English spinner these days eh?
Wicket keeping has been badly neglected as a skill for the last 20 years. Nowadays it's just a case of toss the gloves to a random batsman.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:18 pm Fucksake. Buttler gets nowhere near a pretty decent stumping chance. Yeah, it bounced a bit more than expected, but that was hopeless.
Between captains who don't know how to use them and coaches who keep picking crap keepers, who'd be an English spinner these days eh?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
Nah, we have won 3 from 3 against the plucky Scots. Last time we nearly cocked it up though - rolled them for bugger all and then stuttered in the race for quick runs and only just got home.
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The very last time was cancelled due to COVD. It was one of them jokes.
Oh for a modern era Knott, Taylor or Russell!!!Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:09 pmWicket keeping has been badly neglected as a skill for the last 20 years. Nowadays it's just a case of toss the gloves to a random batsman.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:18 pm Fucksake. Buttler gets nowhere near a pretty decent stumping chance. Yeah, it bounced a bit more than expected, but that was hopeless.
Between captains who don't know how to use them and coaches who keep picking crap keepers, who'd be an English spinner these days eh?
They wouldn't be picked. Their batting wasn't good enough. As a former burly wicketkeeper it really makes me quite sad.SaintK wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 9:08 amOh for a modern era Knott, Taylor or Russell!!!Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 6:09 pmWicket keeping has been badly neglected as a skill for the last 20 years. Nowadays it's just a case of toss the gloves to a random batsman.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Aug 05, 2020 5:18 pm Fucksake. Buttler gets nowhere near a pretty decent stumping chance. Yeah, it bounced a bit more than expected, but that was hopeless.
Between captains who don't know how to use them and coaches who keep picking crap keepers, who'd be an English spinner these days eh?
Edit - to be clear, the 'former' applies to the 'wicketkeeper' and not the 'burly'.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
What's really mad is we have a quality keeper in Ben Foakes who's also a better bat than Buttler in the longer forms of the game.
Asad Shafiq gone - Pakistan looking a little vulnerable at 150-4. It's really felt like a proper Test so far in a way that the WI series didn't; high quality bowling meets high quality confident batting.
Probably, I wasn't being entirely serious. Everyone can beat everyone in ODIs and T20s.
Yeah, but he doesn’t get picked because there’s this idiot fixed idea of ‘we’ve got to pick the extra batsman, we need to get someone really destructive’. Adam Gilchrist destroyed wicket keeping as a specialism.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 10:38 amWhat's really mad is we have a quality keeper in Ben Foakes who's also a better bat than Buttler in the longer forms of the game.
Asad Shafiq gone - Pakistan looking a little vulnerable at 150-4. It's really felt like a proper Test so far in a way that the WI series didn't; high quality bowling meets high quality confident batting.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Alan Knott's test career average is higher than Buttler's so far plus he scored 5 test match centuries and 30 fifties. Not bad for "not good enough!"
But I guess Alex Stewart is the more modern ideal.
Knott's average isn't that far off Stewart's when Stewart was playing as a wicket keeper, either (32.7 v 34.9).tabascoboy wrote: ↑Thu Aug 06, 2020 12:10 pmAlan Knott's test career average is higher than Buttler's so far plus he scored 5 test match centuries and 30 fifties. Not bad for "not good enough!"
But I guess Alex Stewart is the more modern ideal.
Foakes average is a fair bit higher than Buttler's in First Class cricket. And he's younger than Buttler. Scored a ton on debut in his only test match. I don't understand what the attraction of Buttler is to the selectors.
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The England selectors basically hate Ben Foakes. If he asked them to meet him for a pint, they’d be busy and that would be no big deal. It’s the fact that he keeps asking them and they keep coming up with different excuses. It’s not a case of one single glaring omission. It’s a cumulative thing.
Let’s start with the very basic facts: Ben Foakes is a 26-year-old human male who has played five Test matches. When he played these matches, the main thing that happened was that everyone went, “Wow, this guy’s really good at wicketkeeping.” He also made a fifty and a hundred and averaged 41.50 with the bat.
England were so impressed with Foakes’ Test performances that they resolved never to pick him again under any circumstances. Not even to carry the drinks.
https://www.cricket365.com/alex-bowden/ ... en-foakes/
Shan Masoon gets a well deserved century. He'll thank Jos for those two lives, I'm sure.
This piece was in my inbox - really brings home just how much work he's had to do to succeed at this level: https://wickets.substack.com/p/shan-masood-the-rebuild
This piece was in my inbox - really brings home just how much work he's had to do to succeed at this level: https://wickets.substack.com/p/shan-masood-the-rebuild
Shadab out in the 40s, going to slog Bess (who's bowling nicely) and ballooning it for Root to take an easy catch. Shan Masood still there. These two really put pressure on England particularly with loads of quick singles.
Into the bowlers, Yasir Shah in now to annoy England for a while.
Into the bowlers, Yasir Shah in now to annoy England for a while.
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Stokes gone. This is top quality from Pakistan.
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I hope we get to see the teenager and the two legspinners