Cricket: T20 World Cup
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See.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:15 pmAssuming Pak haven't been to the bookies and lose to Sco........JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:13 pm So will England v NZ. There's plenty of classy batsmen in the Kiwi side who will lick their lips at facing what remains of the English bowling attack. I've not seen enough of NZ in this tournament to know how they've been getting on with the ball themselves, but losing Roy is a big blow.
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Sco blocking their way to 100?
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You've only lost Mills from the bowling line up haven't you? And although Roy has been in good form - you've got plenty of back up for opening.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:13 pm So will England v NZ. There's plenty of classy batsmen in the Kiwi side who will lick their lips at facing what remains of the English bowling attack. I've not seen enough of NZ in this tournament to know how they've been getting on with the ball themselves, but losing Roy is a big blow.
Think Buttler will be looking forward to the NZ bowling line up - which has been very hittable over the last few games. The Scottish innings was particularly concerning.
Only Mills in the tournament proper, but we lost Sam Curran just before, Wood's been injured during the tournament and is apparently struggling again, and we obviously don't have Archer or Stokes either.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:42 pmYou've only lost Mills from the bowling line up haven't you? And although Roy has been in good form - you've got plenty of back up for opening.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:13 pm So will England v NZ. There's plenty of classy batsmen in the Kiwi side who will lick their lips at facing what remains of the English bowling attack. I've not seen enough of NZ in this tournament to know how they've been getting on with the ball themselves, but losing Roy is a big blow.
Think Buttler will be looking forward to the NZ bowling line up - which has been very hittable over the last few games. The Scottish innings was particularly concerning.
Yep. Fans have to get home to go to work tomorrowPaddington Bear wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 12:41 pm Air India can start routing 747s to Abu Dhabi I’d say, they’ll be needed soon
Re injuries, our main one has been Lockie Ferguson. Adam Milne just doesn't compare.
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Perhaps - but your performances have been without Archer and Stokes - so that doesn't really factor. Woods would be a bit of a loss if he has broken down. But all your bowlers have been bowling well and taking wickets.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:50 pmOnly Mills in the tournament proper, but we lost Sam Curran just before, Wood's been injured during the tournament and is apparently struggling again, and we obviously don't have Archer or Stokes either.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:42 pmYou've only lost Mills from the bowling line up haven't you? And although Roy has been in good form - you've got plenty of back up for opening.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:13 pm So will England v NZ. There's plenty of classy batsmen in the Kiwi side who will lick their lips at facing what remains of the English bowling attack. I've not seen enough of NZ in this tournament to know how they've been getting on with the ball themselves, but losing Roy is a big blow.
Think Buttler will be looking forward to the NZ bowling line up - which has been very hittable over the last few games. The Scottish innings was particularly concerning.
Unfortunately NZ has Santner and Milne who have been so hittable and not taking wickets. If Boult, Sodhi or Southee fail to turn up we're in trouble.
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Why worry about England? South Africa beat them, Black Caps should walk them.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 8:41 pmPerhaps - but your performances have been without Archer and Stokes - so that doesn't really factor. Woods would be a bit of a loss if he has broken down. But all your bowlers have been bowling well and taking wickets.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:50 pmOnly Mills in the tournament proper, but we lost Sam Curran just before, Wood's been injured during the tournament and is apparently struggling again, and we obviously don't have Archer or Stokes either.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 5:42 pm
You've only lost Mills from the bowling line up haven't you? And although Roy has been in good form - you've got plenty of back up for opening.
Think Buttler will be looking forward to the NZ bowling line up - which has been very hittable over the last few games. The Scottish innings was particularly concerning.
Unfortunately NZ has Santner and Milne who have been so hittable and not taking wickets. If Boult, Sodhi or Southee fail to turn up we're in trouble.
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Will anyone be watching today's game? Wonder if India will change the team or game plan?
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Cricinfo has India bowling coach stating that India lost out because their captain is a tosser.
Edit: Oh no, wait, sorry, India lost out because their captain lost the toss.
Edit: Oh no, wait, sorry, India lost out because their captain lost the toss.
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Expect new rules to come into play to ensure that doesn’t happen again.Insane_Homer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:05 pm Cricinfo has India bowling coach stating that India lost out because their captain is a tosser.
Edit: Oh no, wait, sorry, India lost out because their captain lost the toss.
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What’s the general view on Mark Wood. When fit is a decent bowler when he’s on form. He just seems to be forever broken. In for one game, out for the series. Plays two in a row and that’s almost a season ender for him.
Vince. Who will actually come into the side is unknown at this stage. Maybe Malan to open and Billings into the middle order, but maybe we'll beef up the bowling a bit more instead.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:47 pmI assume Eng allowed a replacement? Has he been announced?
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ThxJM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:17 pmVince. Who will actually come into the side is unknown at this stage. Maybe Malan to open and Billings into the middle order, but maybe we'll beef up the bowling a bit more instead.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:47 pmI assume Eng allowed a replacement? Has he been announced?
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How did this go btw? :)Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:47 pmSee.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:15 pmAssuming Pak haven't been to the bookies and lose to Sco........JM2K6 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:13 pm So will England v NZ. There's plenty of classy batsmen in the Kiwi side who will lick their lips at facing what remains of the English bowling attack. I've not seen enough of NZ in this tournament to know how they've been getting on with the ball themselves, but losing Roy is a big blow.
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^^^ Pakistan won comfortably.
Current Indian innings a blitz thus far. 70-0 off just 8 overs.
They look so much classier than NZ. They just seem to have developed a complex re. the Black Caps, pretty much as we have against the Australians in cricket.
Should NZ make the final you'd expect they'd prefer Pakistan to Australia.
Current Indian innings a blitz thus far. 70-0 off just 8 overs.
They look so much classier than NZ. They just seem to have developed a complex re. the Black Caps, pretty much as we have against the Australians in cricket.
Should NZ make the final you'd expect they'd prefer Pakistan to Australia.
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While checking James Vince's profile in Cricinfo I noticed he was born in a place called Cuckfield in Sussex. Cuckfield. lolTorquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:21 pmThxJM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 2:17 pmVince. Who will actually come into the side is unknown at this stage. Maybe Malan to open and Billings into the middle order, but maybe we'll beef up the bowling a bit more instead.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:47 pm
I assume Eng allowed a replacement? Has he been announced?
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Exactly how I'd have wanted!JM2K6 wrote: ↑Mon Nov 08, 2021 3:44 pmHow did this go btw? :)Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 2:47 pmSee.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:15 pm
Assuming Pak haven't been to the bookies and lose to Sco........
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I'm on the Black Craps train. Choo choo. They seem a bunch of humble blokes. If not them then Pakistan, England and then Aus in that order.
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Everyone loves an underdog!FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:39 pm I'm on the Black Craps train. Choo choo. They seem a bunch of humble blokes. If not them then Pakistan, England and then Aus in that order.
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Most evidence suggests they stop watching, hence why tournament formats have been changed to give them more guaranteed games.
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I'm fearful for you blokes. England has an absolute machine of a team. I am however loyal to most SH teams bar the Aus cricket team. I have too much mental scarring from Hayden, McGrath and particularly Shane Warne.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:38 amEveryone loves an underdog!FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:39 pm I'm on the Black Craps train. Choo choo. They seem a bunch of humble blokes. If not them then Pakistan, England and then Aus in that order.
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Oh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:03 amI'm fearful for you blokes. England has an absolute machine of a team. I am however loyal to most SH teams bar the Aus cricket team. I have too much mental scarring from Hayden, McGrath and particularly Shane Warne.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:38 amEveryone loves an underdog!FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Tue Nov 09, 2021 4:39 pm I'm on the Black Craps train. Choo choo. They seem a bunch of humble blokes. If not them then Pakistan, England and then Aus in that order.
I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.
The "machine" has broken a few parts. Does anyone seriously think we'd have won the ODI world cup without Roy, Stokes, and Archer? We're still a good side but we're clearly not unbeatable, as the Saffers showed, and losing Roy on top of Mills is a huge blow.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 amOh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:03 amI'm fearful for you blokes. England has an absolute machine of a team. I am however loyal to most SH teams bar the Aus cricket team. I have too much mental scarring from Hayden, McGrath and particularly Shane Warne.
I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.
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I'm undecided as to who is victorious in this pre-match, our mockers are greater than your mockers contest.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:46 amThe "machine" has broken a few parts. Does anyone seriously think we'd have won the ODI world cup without Roy, Stokes, and Archer? We're still a good side but we're clearly not unbeatable, as the Saffers showed, and losing Roy on top of Mills is a huge blow.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 amOh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:03 am
I'm fearful for you blokes. England has an absolute machine of a team. I am however loyal to most SH teams bar the Aus cricket team. I have too much mental scarring from Hayden, McGrath and particularly Shane Warne.
I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.
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Yep - they are huge losses - but your recent performances have been without them. And your recent performances have been impressive. The SA result was perhaps a lowering of intensity due to a 'job done so far' attitude.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:46 amThe "machine" has broken a few parts. Does anyone seriously think we'd have won the ODI world cup without Roy, Stokes, and Archer? We're still a good side but we're clearly not unbeatable, as the Saffers showed, and losing Roy on top of Mills is a huge blow.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 amOh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:03 am
I'm fearful for you blokes. England has an absolute machine of a team. I am however loyal to most SH teams bar the Aus cricket team. I have too much mental scarring from Hayden, McGrath and particularly Shane Warne.
I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.
I don't expect them to be as sloppy as they were against SA.
Basically - if England play at 100% and NZ play at 100% - England will win.
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No mockers - as a NZ supporter I hope we win. But England are currently an all-round better side than NZ - certainly in performances in this tournament. Just because I say NZ most likely won't win - doesn't mean I am trying to appeal to the apparent mockers gods.Torquemada 1420 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:21 pmI'm undecided as to who is victorious in this pre-match, our mockers are greater than your mockers contest.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:46 amThe "machine" has broken a few parts. Does anyone seriously think we'd have won the ODI world cup without Roy, Stokes, and Archer? We're still a good side but we're clearly not unbeatable, as the Saffers showed, and losing Roy on top of Mills is a huge blow.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 am
Oh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.
I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.
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I think this will be a good game and really hard to call a winner. England stuffed if we lose early wickets but back our fielding to be the difference in a tight one
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The match we played without mills and with Roy getting injured, we lost.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 12:57 pmYep - they are huge losses - but your recent performances have been without them. And your recent performances have been impressive. The SA result was perhaps a lowering of intensity due to a 'job done so far' attitude.JM2K6 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:46 amThe "machine" has broken a few parts. Does anyone seriously think we'd have won the ODI world cup without Roy, Stokes, and Archer? We're still a good side but we're clearly not unbeatable, as the Saffers showed, and losing Roy on top of Mills is a huge blow.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Nov 10, 2021 11:11 am
Oh I genuinely think England will win comfortably - they are a better side than NZ. Better bowlers, MUCH better spinners and an in form, superior batting line up. The only place NZ match up with them is the fielding.
I know some English fans are doing the whole 'well English cricket is English cricket and we're ripe for a collapse'.....but I think they are secretly pretty confident - and rightly so.
I don't expect them to be as sloppy as they were against SA.
Basically - if England play at 100% and NZ play at 100% - England will win.