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Big D wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:42 pm What happens if we stop voting for any of the cunts?
That's what I did at at the last election. Even though wee've got a reasonably decent constituency MP I couldn't bring myself to vote for any of them.
First time I'd not used my vote at a General Election
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Yesterday's YouGov polls have Cons on 36% (-3pts) Lab on 35% (+2)

"How well or badly do you think the government are
doing at handling Britain's exit from the European
Union?"

(%age)

Very Well 1
Well 18
Total 19

Badly 36
Very Badly 37
Total 73
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dirty fuckers trying to sneak another shits creek amendment in for Monday.
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Big D wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 2:42 pm What happens if we stop voting for any of the cunts?
Nothing.

When it comes down to it, they only give a toss if you vote against them.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Ymx wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:52 pm Isn’t Zapp your mod alter ego Asmo?

Kind of like fight club, I always pictured it as.
Zapp is a bit like a hooker, shared amongst many.
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ASMO wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:31 pm
Ymx wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:52 pm Isn’t Zapp your mod alter ego Asmo?

Kind of like fight club, I always pictured it as.
Zapp is a bit like a hooker, shared amongst many.
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ASMO wrote: Sun Nov 07, 2021 1:31 pm
Ymx wrote: Thu Oct 28, 2021 2:52 pm Isn’t Zapp your mod alter ego Asmo?

Kind of like fight club, I always pictured it as.
Zapp is a bit like a hooker, shared amongst many.
I'm waiting for the appearance of his sister, Laura.
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Said with a straight face. :clap:
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It's not an insane position to hold. Career politicians bring their own problems. Having MPs all be in other jobs is fine and helps ground people. Consultancy isn't a fucking job though
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JM2K6 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:12 am It's not an insane position to hold. Career politicians bring their own problems. Having MPs all be in other jobs is fine and helps ground people. Consultancy isn't a fucking job though
This. Actually pretty supportive of MPs continuing to practice as doctors/serve in the reserves/run their business they set up etc. Seems easy enough to separate this from 'advisory' roles.
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He really is a political coward as well as an entitled cunt!
No 10 says PM unable to attend sleaze debate because he's returning from north-east visit by train
The Downing Street lobby briefing is over, and the prime minister’s spokesman has confirmed that Boris Johnson will not be speaking in, or attending, the sleaze/standards/corruption debate in the Commons this afternoon.

And he won’t be watching it on the TV in his office afterwards; he is on a visit to a hospital in the north-east, and the spokesman said that he would not be able to be able to return to London in time for the debate. The spokesman said the rail timetable did not allow this.

When journalists pointed out that last week Johnson took a private jet so that he could return from the Cop26 conference in Glasgow for a private reunion dinner with former Daily Telegraph leader writes, the spokesman claimed that that was different and that last week other factors applied.
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JM2K6 wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 9:12 am It's not an insane position to hold. Career politicians bring their own problems. Having MPs all be in other jobs is fine and helps ground people. Consultancy isn't a fucking job though
Nice little earnerr for Andrew "Plebgate" Mitchell
Just the small matter of £182k for 34.5 days work :crazy:
Andrew Mitchell, Sutton Coldfield (Conservative)
Senior adviser to Investec, earning £12,000pa for two days
Senior adviser to Montrose Associates, earning £36,000pa for 8 days
Consultant with Ernst & Young, £30,000pa for five days
Adviser providing general business advice to Arch Emerging Partners, £15,000pa for 2.5 days, plus commission for introducing any new business
Senior adviser on African matters to SouthBridge, a Rwanda-based investment bank, earning £39,600pa for 9 days
Senior adviser to Kingsley Capital Partners, £50,000pa for 8 days plus share options
Total £182,600 for 34.5 days
Full list here 1 Labour and 1 Lib Dem all the rest Tories
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After Bethell's 3 ever changing excuses,

First, he claimed his phone was “lost” so he couldn’t hand it over.

Then, a few weeks later he abandoned his tale that the phone had been “lost” and provided an entirely new explanation as to why he was no longer using it, claiming the phone was “broken”.

Then the phone wasn’t lost, or broken. He'd actually passed the phone on to a family member.

[quote]a witness statement from a government lawyer revealed Bethell replaced his phone in early 2021 and it may no longer be possible to retrieve the information about his dealings with Abingdon, although efforts are being made to recover them from his mobile phone provider.

The statement said Bethell had used his official email account as well as his private email account to send and receive emails relevant to the contracts, and that he had also used his mobile phone for SMS and WhatsApp messages. But it said Bethell had confirmed that about six months ago his phone was broken and replaced and that his new phone did not contain the phone data.[/quote]

he finally admits...

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“My whatsapp became overwhelmed…”

Fk me. How do I get on this gravy train.
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Assume that is bottom pooping in to the water??
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Ymx wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:21 am Assume that is bottom pooping in to the water??
yus :clap:

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Very good
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Insane_Homer wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 1:32 pm After Bethell's 3 ever changing excuses,

First, he claimed his phone was “lost” so he couldn’t hand it over.

Then, a few weeks later he abandoned his tale that the phone had been “lost” and provided an entirely new explanation as to why he was no longer using it, claiming the phone was “broken”.

Then the phone wasn’t lost, or broken. He'd actually passed the phone on to a family member.

[quote]a witness statement from a government lawyer revealed Bethell replaced his phone in early 2021 and it may no longer be possible to retrieve the information about his dealings with Abingdon, although efforts are being made to recover them from his mobile phone provider.

The statement said Bethell had used his official email account as well as his private email account to send and receive emails relevant to the contracts, and that he had also used his mobile phone for SMS and WhatsApp messages. But it said Bethell had confirmed that about six months ago his phone was broken and replaced and that his new phone did not contain the phone data.
he finally admits...

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I guess the idea of copies for the file is quaint and old-fashioned now. How convenient.
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Where to start today?
Blonde cunt parading round a hospital for photo ops without a mask on. Couldsn't be arsed to come to parliament for the debate on sleaze and cronyism he is presiding over
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Geoffery Cox spending lockdown in the Caribbean earning £1.2M instead of being a constituency MP
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A Conservative MP is facing bankruptcy proceedings over unpaid taxes in a fresh blow for Boris Johnson’s embattled party.

Court records show a petition for bankruptcy has been filed by HMRC against Adam Afriyie, who has represented Windsor since 2005. Afriyie is described as a “litigant in person”, suggesting he intends to represent himself.

Under parliamentary rules, sitting MPs who are declared bankrupt have to step aside if a bankruptcy restrictions order is made against them. These can be imposed if the bankrupt refuses to cooperate with the process or is suspected of hiding assets, for example. That would create turmoil for the prime minister, whose party is already facing three byelections.
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Geoffrey Cox made 1m quid from lobbying for tax havens last year?! Not too bad.
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I like neeps wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:37 pm Geoffrey Cox made 1m quid from lobbying for tax havens last year?! Not too bad.
It’s fine. He declared it all. :crazy:
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I like neeps wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 3:37 pm Geoffrey Cox made 1m quid from lobbying for tax havens last year?! Not too bad.
It wasn't even for lobbying. He was representing the BVI government and their PM against accusations of corruption and misgovernance bought by the ex govenor who is a representative of our government.
Still, he managed to vote by proxy when there was a division in the commons..........so that's ok then and I'm suree his constituents are delighted.
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LONDON, Nov 9 (Reuters) - British police are studying correspondence they have received relating to media reports on appointments to the upper house of parliament, they said on Tuesday, after the Sunday Times reported major donors to the ruling party were offered seats.

Appointments to Britain's unelected House of Lords are made according to an opaque system. Paying for a seat is illegal.

London's Metropolitan Police "has received correspondence relating to media reports concerning the awarding of peerages. At this time, we are considering the contents of the correspondence," it said, giving no further details.


https://www.reuters.com/world/uk/uk-pol ... 021-11-09/
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According the Sunday Times the last 16 Con party treasurers have ended up in the HoL, it seems that a donation of just over £3m to the party gets you a seat in the legislature. I don’t care about people getting OBEs or knighthoods but giving people a lifetime seat in Parliament for money, or for supporting Brexit like Botham, is kyffin disgraceful.
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GogLais wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:16 pm According the Sunday Times the last 16 Con party treasurers have ended up in the HoL, it seems that a donation of just over £3m to the party gets you a seat in the legislature. I don’t care about people getting OBEs or knighthoods but giving people a lifetime seat in Parliament for money, or for supporting Brexit like Botham, is kyffin disgraceful.
Well Brexit demonstrated that the HoL is about as much use an an appendix; so what does it really matter if it's full of crooks, & spivs; or decent honorable people.

Selling honors is just another manifestation of how relying on decency & honor, to keep Politicians in check; is folly.
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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:27 pm
GogLais wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:16 pm According the Sunday Times the last 16 Con party treasurers have ended up in the HoL, it seems that a donation of just over £3m to the party gets you a seat in the legislature. I don’t care about people getting OBEs or knighthoods but giving people a lifetime seat in Parliament for money, or for supporting Brexit like Botham, is kyffin disgraceful.
Well Brexit demonstrated that the HoL is about as much use an an appendix; so what does it really matter if it's full of crooks, & spivs; or decent honorable people.

Selling honors is just another manifestation of how relying on decency & honor, to keep Politicians in check; is folly.
It might be of more use if it weren’t full of crooks and spivs, putting aside the grotesque fact that we have an upper house that’s entirely nominated or hereditary.
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GogLais wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:36 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:27 pm
GogLais wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 8:16 pm According the Sunday Times the last 16 Con party treasurers have ended up in the HoL, it seems that a donation of just over £3m to the party gets you a seat in the legislature. I don’t care about people getting OBEs or knighthoods but giving people a lifetime seat in Parliament for money, or for supporting Brexit like Botham, is kyffin disgraceful.
Well Brexit demonstrated that the HoL is about as much use an an appendix; so what does it really matter if it's full of crooks, & spivs; or decent honorable people.

Selling honors is just another manifestation of how relying on decency & honor, to keep Politicians in check; is folly.
It might be of more use if it weren’t full of crooks and spivs, putting aside the grotesque fact that we have an upper house that’s entirely nominated or hereditary.
But it's constitutionally so neutered, that there's nothing stopping any Government from packing it full of spivs; & that removes it's single theoretical power; anyway. What use can it; or will it ever be; when every Government wants to keep it useless ?
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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:47 pm
GogLais wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:36 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 9:27 pm

Well Brexit demonstrated that the HoL is about as much use an an appendix; so what does it really matter if it's full of crooks, & spivs; or decent honorable people.

Selling honors is just another manifestation of how relying on decency & honor, to keep Politicians in check; is folly.
It might be of more use if it weren’t full of crooks and spivs, putting aside the grotesque fact that we have an upper house that’s entirely nominated or hereditary.
But it's constitutionally so neutered, that there's nothing stopping any Government from packing it full of spivs; & that removes it's single theoretical power; anyway. What use can it; or will it ever be; when every Government wants to keep it useless ?
I’m fully in favour of a reformed second chamber but given that we have what we have I think it’s reasonable to object if people buy their way into it. I don’t think the current membership is entirely made up of crooks and spivs.
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https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... -25000-job
Iain Duncan Smith accused of ‘brazen conflict of interest’ over £25,000 job

The MP and former Conservative party leader chaired the Task Force on Innovation, Growth, and Regulatory Reform, which reported back in May after he and two other MPs were asked by Boris Johnson to recommend ways of cutting supposed EU red-tape.

However, the fresh spotlight on moonlighting by MPs has now prompted questions about the taskforce’s recommendations that alcohol-free hand sanitisers should be formally recognised as suitable for use in the UK.

The report made no reference to Duncan Smith’s relationship with Byotrol, which provides the NHS with 92% of its non-alcohol sanitiser. It retains the former Tory leader as an adviser for £25,000 a year, according to his declaration in parliament’s register of members’ interests.
I'm totally and utterly shocked! :problem:
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EXCL: Sir Geoffrey Cox is tonight being referred to the standards commissioner by Labour after he appeared to use his Commons office to represent the British Virgin Islands in a corruption case against the UK government

Full story in @thetimes on Wednesday
Flabbergasted!
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The bumblecunt is going to be very popular in Party now.

In the pace of a week; he's pissed off the new MPs; by making them look like crooks; for tramping thru the lobby he told them to; & in so doing; he's now turned on the floodlights; & the media are now doing their jobs for a change; & the guys who've been working the lobbying system for years, are now in danger of getting exposed; & the more the public hears; the less likely it is the whole thing can get lost in a media cycle; without any serious reforming of the system; & the lobbying money will be dramatically reduced.

I wonder how many letters will be in the drawer in the 1922 room by the New Year ?
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might need a second board,
MP Lawrence Robertson has spoken in Parliament in praise of gambling and against proposals for tougher regulation. He is paid £24,000 a year by industry body the Betting and Gaming Council https://bit.ly/3qtOssV he says everything he does is open and within the rules.
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Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:06 am might need a second board,
MP Lawrence Robertson has spoken in Parliament in praise of gambling and against proposals for tougher regulation. He is paid £24,000 a year by industry body the Betting and Gaming Council https://bit.ly/3qtOssV he says everything he does is open and within the rules.
It remains somewhat vexing there's no regulator for the gambling industry. And really not even a discussion about the formation of one. It's almost like they don't even care
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Rhubarb & Custard wrote: Wed Nov 10, 2021 9:30 am It's almost like they don't even care
I think you'll find they're being paid not to care :wink:
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