Queen may be a gonner already, or very close to it

[Torquemada 1420]

I er, don't think we celebrate someone's death in the same way as a famous sporting triumph

Who used the term "celebrate"? You've been going on about 1966 forever. So much so, it's the single reason many of us could not bear the thought of Eng ever winning a football trophy again. You'd be insufferable.

People bring up 1966 because it's a triumph, and it's the last time we won a major football trophy, so it's relevant every 2 years. It's a bit different to the idea of talking about the Queen for 5 years because she's dead. People are not going to give that much of a shit, it'll be a month or two, some hasty TV series and a film or two, and everything else will be exactly as it was before.

You used that word which I was going to feature in my reply i.e. it's all about triumphalism and the queen is the epitome of it. Uruguay has won the thing more often than Eng but I'll wager they don't w*nk on about it in the same way.

[Hal Jordan]

Christ, I've just thought about Charles' reaction to this and given myself a Disney earworm. "Oh, I just can't waaaaaaait...to be king!"

[fishfoodie]

I suspect Andy is less enthusiastic; as he'll lose his biggest supporter, & might have to face the music.

[Slick]

Well that’s a bit cunty

[Sards]

Well that’s a bit cunty

The other day he was celebrating the death of FW De Klerk. The president that called for the referendum that ended apartheid. Very unpleasant person

[sturginho]

Nipper is Prince Charles and I claim my £5

[Big Nipper]

Nipper is Prince Charles and I claim my £5

You can retire with 5 quid here in SA. Im sorry I am not exactly tearing up here over a member of the British Royal family. They left a trail of destruction in South Africa, and even had time to kill some of my family in concentration camps.

[sockwithaticket]

Christ, I've just thought about Charles' reaction to this and given myself a Disney earworm. "Oh, I just can't waaaaaaait...to be king!"

[Torquemada 1420]

Well that’s a bit cunty

The other day he was celebrating the death of FW De Klerk. The president that called for the referendum that ended apartheid. Very unpleasant person

Whilst that is true, your attempt to portray FW as some sort of saint is misguided. There will be plenty who celebrated his death.

[Calculon]

She is 'The' Queen. Even in other countries with an actual Queen of their own, if you asked people in those countries who 'The' Queen was then many of them would still point to a picture of the UK Queen.

, sure they would

[laurent]

[Openside]

I have it on decent authority that operation London Bridge is being dusted off.

Condolences to those of you in the UK, because the country will have a psychological meltdown.

You are not joking there will be the mother of all slumps!!

Cue all the edgy republicans telling me no one will give a shit.

[Openside]

Nipper is Prince Charles and I claim my £5

You can retire with 5 quid here in SA. Im sorry I am not exactly tearing up here over a member of the British Royal family. They left a trail of destruction in South Africa, and even had time to kill some of my family in concentration camps.

Can we open champagne for that??

[Big Nipper]

Im sure the British have had many a drink over the ashes of their colonies

[Tichtheid]

I have it on decent authority that operation London Bridge is being dusted off.

Condolences to those of you in the UK, because the country will have a psychological meltdown.

You are not joking there will be the mother of all slumps!!

Cue all the edgy republicans telling me no one will give a shit.

I think lots of people will care, almost everyone in the UK will have an opinion one way or the other. On a personal level I would feel sorry for the ones who will lose a mother, an aunt, a grandmother, a great grandmother etc, just as I would for anyone in that situation.

Tam Paine said "Kill the King, spare the man", and that's where I am, I don't like monarchies, I don't like that the armed forces and police swear allegiance to the monarch, it means that democracy is not actually sovereign in this country - as candidates for dictatorship go, Liz is pretty much the last in line, but that's not the point.

I'd like the monarchy to be significantly downgraded if people insist on keeping it, a ceremonial role perhaps.

[Openside]

Condolences to those of you in the UK, because the country will have a psychological meltdown.

You are not joking there will be the mother of all slumps!!

Cue all the edgy republicans telling me no one will give a shit.

I think lots of people will care, almost everyone in the UK will have an opinion one way or the other. On a personal level I would feel sorry for the ones who will lose a mother, an aunt, a grandmother, a great grandmother etc, just as I would for anyone in that situation.

Tam Paine said "Kill the King, spare the man", and that's where I am, I don't like monarchies, I don't like that the armed forces and police swear allegiance to the monarch, it means that democracy is not actually sovereign in this country - as candidates for dictatorship go, Liz is pretty much the last in line, but that's not the point.

I'd like the monarchy to be significantly downgraded if people insist on keeping it, a ceremonial role perhaps.

Their role already is pretty ceremonial…

[SaintK]

Im sure the British have had many a drink over the ashes of their colonies

What! All of us?

[Sards]

Nipper is Prince Charles and I claim my £5

You can retire with 5 quid here in SA. Im sorry I am not exactly tearing up here over a member of the British Royal family. They left a trail of destruction in South Africa, and even had time to kill some of my family in concentration camps.

Can we open champagne for that??

Nasty

[Sards]

You should have seen the royal arm wrestling when one of our Kings died . Things carried on.

[Sards]

Im sure the British have had many a drink over the ashes of their colonies

What! All of us?

You are all drunken pirates

[tabascoboy]

Condolences to those of you in the UK, because the country will have a psychological meltdown.

You are not joking there will be the mother of all slumps!!

Cue all the edgy republicans telling me no one will give a shit.

I think lots of people will care, almost everyone in the UK will have an opinion one way or the other. On a personal level I would feel sorry for the ones who will lose a mother, an aunt, a grandmother, a great grandmother etc, just as I would for anyone in that situation.

Tam Paine said "Kill the King, spare the man", and that's where I am, I don't like monarchies, I don't like that the armed forces and police swear allegiance to the monarch, it means that democracy is not actually sovereign in this country - as candidates for dictatorship go, Liz is pretty much the last in line, but that's not the point.

I'd like the monarchy to be significantly downgraded if people insist on keeping it, a ceremonial role perhaps.

This, having been through this with my own family members. I won't personally be sad about it myself but recognise the impact it will genuinely have on others.

I don't think we'll have mass grief hysteria along the lines of 1997, but I think many people (like me) will just go along with the whole "nation in mourning" thing regardless of our actual feelings because it's easier than getting into pointless arguments about it. 2/3/4 weeks and we'll collectively move on.

[Lemoentjie]

RIP. Just hope the Poms don't cancel the vokken rugby.

[troglodiet]

Where does your info fall on the credible source scale?

10. You play golf with the Queen's private physician.








5. You know a bloke with an OBE





2. You read it on Twitter



1. Paul Burrell told you.

i would say closer to the top end of that scale than the bottom

Probably an eight then.

8. You know Globus

[Sandstorm]

11. His bookie

[Kawazaki]

Ironically, the Queen is aging better than this thread.

[Ymx]

So just searched and it seems rumours permeating on Twitter.

Where is that on the 1-10 scale?

[troglodiet]

So just searched and it seems rumours permeating on Twitter.

Where is that on the 1-10 scale?

Twitter?

About -20

[Happyhooker]

I'll be sad when the queen dies because she's a 95 year old woman who has strived to do an archaic job and, on the whole, done it with aplomb.

Will I mourn her passing: no. I've never met her properly
Will I fear her passing: yes, cos it passes to her twattish son (my dad had to deal with him on occasion)
Will I think that this will accelerate the demise of the royals: yes, so massive bonus
Will we have to redo how we're governed: yes, probably, because charles basically isn't up to the job. The monarch's role has been sidelined for quite a while, but not just 'purely ceremonial' as someone said earlier in the thread (I'm guessing OS)

What I'm going to hate for quite a while is the national collective grief we're meant to feel about her death. Complete pile of bollocks.

Anyway, death of 95 year old rich woman who still works part time ain't much of a headline.

[Chilli]

Strange how people who claim to to care, don't support, couldn't care less, will celebrate her passing care so much that they post, repost and post again.

It seems to have become fashionable to hate or dislike the Royal Family. So fashionable that these people attention whore themselves all over the place.

"Look at me, look at me I dislike the Monarchy"

Just be quiet and move on with your lives.

[Gumboot]

Strange how people who claim to to care, don't support, couldn't care less, will celebrate her passing care so much that they post, repost and post again.

It seems to have become fashionable to hate or dislike the Royal Family. So fashionable that these people attention whore themselves all over the place.

"Look at me, look at me I dislike the Monarchy"

Just be quiet and move on with your lives.

"celebrate her passing"?

What a load of horseshit.

[Chilli]

Strange how people who claim to to care, don't support, couldn't care less, will celebrate her passing care so much that they post, repost and post again.

It seems to have become fashionable to hate or dislike the Royal Family. So fashionable that these people attention whore themselves all over the place.

"Look at me, look at me I dislike the Monarchy"

Just be quiet and move on with your lives.

"celebrate her passing"?

What a load of horseshit.

Read the fred. Champagne corks are popping.

[Gumboot]

You made a sweeping statement based on the inanities of a single poster?

Why didn't you just direct your comment at Big Nipper, then?

[assfly]

In a world bereft of good presidents, prime ministers and politicians in general, I think the Queen has stood out as a beacon of leadership.

[Gumboot]

In a world bereft of good presidents, prime ministers and politicians in general, I think the Queen has stood out as a beacon of leadership.

She's a figurehead, not a leader.

[assfly]

She's a figurehead, not a leader.

if that makes you feel better, go for it.

[Gumboot]

She's a figurehead, not a leader.

if that makes you feel better, go for it.

Is my point incorrect? Why do you immediately assume I'm emotionally invested in this?

[assfly]

Is my point incorrect? Why do you immediately assume I'm emotionally invested in this?

Of course she is a leader. She is a world leader. To think otherwise is utterly bizarre.

[Gumboot]

In what way is she a world leader? Phoning in a "Good luck, chaps" to COP26? Her Xmas speech? Get real.

[assfly]

In what way is she a world leader? Phoning in a "Good luck, chaps" to COP26? Her Xmas speech? Get real.

as suspected, very emotionally invested.

[Gumboot]

Her role is purely ceremonial.

How can she be a world leader in any meaningful sense when she's not involved in any world leadership decisions?

Please don't let your emotions get in the way of a sincere answer this time.