The Brexit Thread

[Biffer]

The Blonde Bumblecunt is just the latest version of the country squire and landowner who expects the villagers to gratefully doff their caps at hims as he lets them have a half day off work on Christmas Day. I have a classics educated friend who is excoriating about the BB's use of latin and greek and who tells me he fucks up his use classical references to the point of being embarrassing. It doesn't really matter as its the use of a foreign, or in his case dead, language that is deliberate in order to project an image of the 'well clever' amongst the working classes in red wall seats. He is no intellectual giant, no more than the travelling salesman flogging you his snake oil whilst his mates pretending to be his willing customers are getting rich quick schemes behind the scenes.

He's not the only one. Rees Mogg had a swipe at musicians and artists complaining about the visa processes for touring in Europe and the UK, and how it was impacting them, and he said something about Handel not needing a visa when he came to London and wrote the Messiah. No, he didn't Jacob, he needed an act of parliament passed. And it's Messiah, not The Messiah, you fucking dick.

[Uncle fester]

Also I'm not really understanding the sudden "concern" for NI unionists. They barely gave a hoot about them when their votes were needed in the commons and the Brexit deal that was signed actively ran over the DUP's concerns.

Suspect that the concern about the protocol is really a stalking horse for some other concessions of more interest to GB tories and the fact that the EU court was brought up would support that.

[Line6 HXFX]

This may not be the Brexit you lot voted for, but it sure as shit is the Brexit I voted against.



It was always going to be like this, regardless of the Killer Clown cunt the Tories have as leader.

[Line6 HXFX]

Anyhow we have to get Brexit to work.

We all love the UK right? It can't all be that bad?
It is not like we have spent the last 16 years enamored with the right wing press, and disrespecting and hating everyone who isn't landed gentry.


Can you all shut the fuck up and start up businesses?

Fleabag stated a Cafe with a Hampster ffs. Jeremy Clarkson Started a Farm. Richard Hammond started a repair shop and James May makes Sandwiches now.

[fishfoodie]

So the message might have finally got thru his thick skull

Britain’s Brexit minister David Frost has stepped back from invoking Article 16 of the Northern Ireland protocol, telling the House of Lords that negotiations should continue for “a short number of weeks”. He said that although the gap between Britain and the EU remained wide, the two sides had moved closer during four weeks of talks.

“In my view, this process of negotiations has not reached its end. Although we have been talking for nearly four weeks, there remain possibilities that the talks have not yet seriously examined, including many approaches suggested by the UK. So there is more to do and I certainly will not give up on this process unless and until it is abundantly clear that nothing more can be done. We are certainly not at that point yet,” he said.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/politic ... -1.4724868

I'd hate to be Jeffery Donaldson right now .... or really anytime .... imagine repeatedly promising to walk out Stormont; & then repeatedly getting left looking like a dickless simp ....

[tabascoboy]

[fishfoodie]

I'm sure those subs the Yanks are flogging to the Ozzies could equally use French Reactors .....

[Insane_Homer]

[dpedin]

Big boys in the playground tell the annoying wee twats in the corner to keep to the rules!

[tabascoboy]

Apparently removing an EU cap on credit card fees is another "Brexit benefit". Amazon probably just flexing to try and get a better deal from Visa, but using debit card means losing payment protection benefits...

https://news.sky.com/story/amazon-to-re ... s-12470641

Amazon to stop accepting payments using UK-issued Visa credit cards
The online retailer admits its decision, due to take effect in January, is "inconvenient" for shoppers but insists it is in their best interests while Visa accuses the company of restricting choice.

Amazon says UK customers will not be able to pay for goods using a Visa credit card from January, blaming a "high cost of payments".

The online retail powerhouse emailed customers on Wednesday morning to confirm the move would take effect from 19 January and clarified that no other credit cards, or Visa debit cards, would be included in the ban.

It means that Visa credit cards issued outside of the UK will also be exempt.

From March 2021:

Visa is to force through a series of post-Brexit fee increases which could place fresh pressure on consumers and small businesses struggling to deal with the financial impact of the coronavirus pandemic.

According to people briefed on the plans, Visa will in October raise its “interchange fees” — a levy it charges on behalf of banks for every debit or credit card payment that uses its network — on cross-border transactions between the UK and EU.

https://www.ft.com/content/4820b619-4d3 ... 685c047374

Amazon of course uses its Luxembourg base...

[Tichtheid]

I've just been speaking with a friend who runs a small non-vat business. He's just lost an order to the EU because the client realised they would have to pay 23% vat and 12% import tax.
Around a third of my friend's clients are in the EU.

He doesn't yet know what additional tariffs will apply in January.

[Sandstorm]

I've just been speaking with a friend who runs a small non-vat business. He's just lost an order to the EU because the client realised they would have to pay 23% vat and 12% import tax.
Around a third of my friend's clients are in the EU.

He doesn't yet know what additional tariffs will apply in January.

Our German warehouse just informed us that Fedex are raising their shipping costs to UK by around 10% "because of all the hassle"

[SaintK]

Off we jolly well go then!!!

French fishers are set to take action within days, including blocking road and sea freight bound for the UK through Calais and other Channel ports, as a months-long dispute over licences to operate in British waters intensifies.

French media reported on Tuesday that with talks between the two governments and the European Commission over post-Brexit fishing rights seemingly deadlocked, angry fishers in northern France would decide on Thursday what steps to take.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ ... te-brexit

[fishfoodie]

Off we jolly well go then!!!

French fishers are set to take action within days, including blocking road and sea freight bound for the UK through Calais and other Channel ports, as a months-long dispute over licences to operate in British waters intensifies.

French media reported on Tuesday that with talks between the two governments and the European Commission over post-Brexit fishing rights seemingly deadlocked, angry fishers in northern France would decide on Thursday what steps to take.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ ... te-brexit

All for the sake of a few dozen fishing licences .

I can see why the fishermen are upset; the UKs position seems to be explicitly designed to get the French as pissed off as possible.

[petej]

Off we jolly well go then!!!

French fishers are set to take action within days, including blocking road and sea freight bound for the UK through Calais and other Channel ports, as a months-long dispute over licences to operate in British waters intensifies.

French media reported on Tuesday that with talks between the two governments and the European Commission over post-Brexit fishing rights seemingly deadlocked, angry fishers in northern France would decide on Thursday what steps to take.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ ... te-brexit

All for the sake of a few dozen fishing licences .

I can see why the fishermen are upset; the UKs position seems to be explicitly designed to get the French as pissed off as possible.

Of course it is. Sabre rattling and bullshit is all bumblecunt and frost have. The process of the population slowly realizing how shit Brexit is or at least bumblecunts Brexit is, is retarded/slowed by such antics.

[Paddington Bear]

Off we jolly well go then!!!

French fishers are set to take action within days, including blocking road and sea freight bound for the UK through Calais and other Channel ports, as a months-long dispute over licences to operate in British waters intensifies.

French media reported on Tuesday that with talks between the two governments and the European Commission over post-Brexit fishing rights seemingly deadlocked, angry fishers in northern France would decide on Thursday what steps to take.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ ... te-brexit

All for the sake of a few dozen fishing licences .

I can see why the fishermen are upset; the UKs position seems to be explicitly designed to get the French as pissed off as possible.

UK's position is to implement what was agreed in the fishery agreement, not sure what people are really expecting from them.

[Insane_Homer]

[petej]

In exchange for his professional integrity he got made a lord.

[fishfoodie]

Off we jolly well go then!!!

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ ... te-brexit

All for the sake of a few dozen fishing licences .

I can see why the fishermen are upset; the UKs position seems to be explicitly designed to get the French as pissed off as possible.

UK's position is to implement what was agreed in the fishery agreement, not sure what people are really expecting from them.

The fishery agreement make no mention of a requirement for specific types of proof of previous fishing. It guarantees the continued access

[Jasonstry]

All for the sake of a few dozen fishing licences .

I can see why the fishermen are upset; the UKs position seems to be explicitly designed to get the French as pissed off as possible.

UK's position is to implement what was agreed in the fishery agreement, not sure what people are really expecting from them.

The fishery agreement make no mention of a requirement for specific types of proof of previous fishing. It guarantees the continued access

I don't think it is really that simple. The agreement guarantees continued access "reflecting the actual extent and nature of fishing activity that it can be demonstrated was carried out during the period beginning on 1 February 2017 and ending on 31 January 2020 by qualifying vessels of the other Party in the waters ... " If a boat can't demostrate any fishing activity for that period, it doesn't get a license. The problem is how it can be demonstrated and, bearing in mind you can get GPS data on your watch, that is an obvious way. Without that, how do you think it could actually be demonstrated? There aren't easy solutions but I have heard it said a few times that a boat that doesn't have gps records probably has reasons for not wanting to have gps records. Another problem is that some boat owners have apparently made claims based on logbooks but radar/sattelite records kept by the UK have shown the claims to be untrue. I think there are sine political games with the UK saying the NI protocol isn't working and the EU saying you signed it and now a similar argument re fishing with the UK sticking to the letter. Also, if France does start imposing sanctions re fishing, UK are likely to argue that the EU have broken the trade agreement.

[fishfoodie]

Ireland has decided that, enough is enough; & it's time for the UK to suffer; until they meet their treaty commitments !
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This Christmas, there will be TWO Mrs Browns Boys Specials !!!

[Uncle fester]

The poor bastards.

[fishfoodie]

Oh Dear; Oh Dear Oh Dear ..... some people in the DUP could be in deep shit !

A police investigation into Mid and East Antrim Borough Council is linked to correspondence surrounding the controversial decision to withdraw staff operating the Northern Ireland Protocol back in February, BBC Northern Ireland Spotlight can reveal.

Sources have told Tuesday night's programme that attempts by council employees to delete a trail of correspondence to Democratic Unionist Party (DUP) politicians that was being sought through Freedom of Information requests are at the centre of the investigation.

In October detectives from the Police Service of Northern Ireland's (PSNI) criminal investigation branch searched the council offices and retrieved documents and some electronic equipment.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-59480141

So the DUP were colluding with drug dealing, scumbag paramilitaries; & friendly elements in the docks; to manufacture a threat.

Who ever would have thought it ?

[tabascoboy]

^ Hmmm, does that mean our UK government was being hoodwinked into squaring up with the EU over the NIP over nothing? Surely not!!!

[fishfoodie]

^ Hmmm, does that mean our UK government was being hoodwinked into squaring up with the EU over the NIP over nothing? Surely not!!!

Assuming none of the emails end up in Downing Street, Westminster, or Whitehall ?

[Paddington Bear]

Ireland has decided that, enough is enough; & it's time for the UK to suffer; until they meet their treaty commitments !
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This Christmas, there will be TWO Mrs Browns Boys Specials !!!

We cave.

[fishfoodie]

Ireland has decided that, enough is enough; & it's time for the UK to suffer; until they meet their treaty commitments !
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This Christmas, there will be TWO Mrs Browns Boys Specials !!!

We cave.

If you chuck in a few fishing licenses for the frogs; we'll let you show the Father Ted Christmas episode

[JM2K6]

This is some thread

[Rinkals]

This is some thread

Jesus Christ!

A surprising piece of high intelligence.

I bet she'll be shredded for that.

[SaintK]

This is some thread

Sums it all up nicely
Good on her!

[robmatic]

This is some thread

That is quite the double barrelled surname.

[dpedin]

Everyone ready for when Brexit is fully implemented? 1st January will see the UK enforce full customs controls on EU imports, assuming they don't delay it yet again? I assume the borders are ready, IT systems are working and all the Customs staff are employed and fully trained up? Been awfully quiet about this ...

[fishfoodie]

Everyone ready for when Brexit is fully implemented? 1st January will see the UK enforce full customs controls on EU imports, assuming they don't delay it yet again? I assume the borders are ready, IT systems are working and all the Customs staff are employed and fully trained up? Been awfully quiet about this ...

I think the EU is also going to start applying the full; "Rules Of Origin", to UK exports on Jan 1st; so expect chaos when UK companies, are completely unable to demonstrate that their goods are UK produced.

[dpedin]

Everyone ready for when Brexit is fully implemented? 1st January will see the UK enforce full customs controls on EU imports, assuming they don't delay it yet again? I assume the borders are ready, IT systems are working and all the Customs staff are employed and fully trained up? Been awfully quiet about this ...

I think the EU is also going to start applying the full; "Rules Of Origin", to UK exports on Jan 1st; so expect chaos when UK companies, are completely unable to demonstrate that their goods are UK produced.

Yep - might get messy pretty quickly? Wonder what the Blonde Bumblecunt and his Brexit Ultras will throw onto the table as a dead cat? They will no doubt have their Ammon ready so expect numerous distractions from Brexit.

[fishfoodie]

The UK Sneaked in some new regulations into the immigration Bill.

https://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/12 ... l-ireland/

Non-Irish EU citizens living in the Republic will have to apply online for pre-travel clearance from the UK in order to cross the border on the island of Ireland, under proposed new British immigration laws.

Under the Nationality and Borders Bill, they will be required to apply for an Electronic Travel Authorisation (ETA) before entering the UK, including when crossing into Northern Ireland.

...

SDLP MP Claire Hanna has said the proposals are "genuinely very problematic and fundamentally unsuitable for the way of life" on the island of Ireland.

The MP for South Belfast told RTÉ's Today with Claire Byrne that the measures have not been thought through in how they will affect the Ireland of island.

She said while it does not require border checks it will add a lot of bureaucracy or legal uncertainty
for those wanting to cross the border.

Ms Hanna said it has implications for tourism and business as well as everyday cross-border travel.

She said it was "slipped in by the British government" and that the proposed Bill contains many other concerning measures in relation to asylum.

The HO didn't consult with the devolved administration at all; & doesn't care it's unenforceable.

[weegie01]

All for the sake of a few dozen fishing licences .

I can see why the fishermen are upset; the UKs position seems to be explicitly designed to get the French as pissed off as possible.

UK's position is to implement what was agreed in the fishery agreement, not sure what people are really expecting from them.

The fishery agreement make no mention of a requirement for specific types of proof of previous fishing. It guarantees the continued access

The agreement makes It makes no mention of specific types of proof, just that there needs to be proof. Both sides are at fault for not agreeing the mechanism by which proof of historic fishing would be provided. Having said that, it is not unreasonable to expect there to be proof.

As at November

736 licenses were applied for by French boats outside 12nm zone, all 736 were granted.

88 licenses were applied for by French boats in the 6 to 12nm zone for boats over 12m, 85 were granted, with three in progress.

267 licenses were applied for by French boats in the 6 to 12nm zone for boats under 12m, 132 permanent licences were granted, 49 temporary licenses were granted to allow further information to be gathered, 56 were withdrawn or lapsed.

In addition to the above, 48 applications have been received for replacement vessels. The problem with this being that the agreement related to specific vessels, apparently no methodology was agreed for replacement vessels where a fisherman has the proof but in a different vessel. These are all pending whilst this is sorted out.

Frankly, an awful lot of detail seems to have been missed in relation to this issue, perhaps because the overall agreement between the EU and UK was much wider and this issue relates only to a relatively small number of boats that are nearly all French in a small geographic area.

No one is coming of this smelling of roses. There were flaws in the initial agreement and both sides are at fault for that. The French agreed to something that was difficult if not impossible for some of their smaller boats. The UK appears to be digging their heels in in response French threats and some dodgy early French applications.

[petej]

Everyone ready for when Brexit is fully implemented? 1st January will see the UK enforce full customs controls on EU imports, assuming they don't delay it yet again? I assume the borders are ready, IT systems are working and all the Customs staff are employed and fully trained up? Been awfully quiet about this ...

I think the EU is also going to start applying the full; "Rules Of Origin", to UK exports on Jan 1st; so expect chaos when UK companies, are completely unable to demonstrate that their goods are UK produced.

Don't brexiteers love this sort empty shelves pointless bureaucracy type shit. So we can show our national spirit.

[Sandstorm]

UK businesses only have to put a small Union Jack sticker on the product, right?

[fishfoodie]

UK businesses only have to put a small Union Jack sticker on the product, right?

Absolutely; & if they could put them on the outside of the shipping containers too; that'll make it much easier for the French, Dutch, & Belgian officials to know which trucks they need move over to the; EPIQ Lane*.


* Excruciatingly Pedantic Inspection Queue

[Tichtheid]

UK businesses only have to put a small Union Jack sticker on the product, right?

Absolutely; & if they could put them on the outside of the shipping containers too; that'll make it much easier for the French, Dutch, & Belgian officials to know which trucks they need move over to the; EPIQ Lane*.


* Excruciatingly Pedantic Inspection Queue

Some folk might think that's a joke, but when I worked in France we used to have to import fence wire/netting and tools from New Zealand to the UK and then get them shipped out to France.

Direct imports would spend months and months.... and months in a warehouse in Marseille - this went back to Rainbow Warrior apparently.