Ashes / Proteas vs India

[Rinkals]

Jansen gets the other opener.

I was listening to Sunil GAvaskar talking about how unlucky you are if you are out to a strangle down the leg side, but we've had quite a few dismissals like that in this series.

I reckon we should have a leg slip in and bowl for that mode of dismissal.

[Grandpa]

Jansen gets the other opener.

I was listening to Sunil GAvaskar talking about how unlucky you are if you are out to a strangle down the leg side, but we've had quite a few dismissals like that in this series.

I reckon we should have a leg slip in and bowl for that mode of dismissal.

Douglas Jardine recommends it!

[OomStruisbaai]

The pitch will be on its best on day 3. We need to get King Kohli quickly.

Jansen the find of the tour. Look like an angry youngster.

[Rinkals]

Jansen gets the other opener.

I was listening to Sunil GAvaskar talking about how unlucky you are if you are out to a strangle down the leg side, but we've had quite a few dismissals like that in this series.

I reckon we should have a leg slip in and bowl for that mode of dismissal.

Douglas Jardine recommends it!

You ARE allowed two fielders backward of square leg.

I am certainly not suggesting bodyline bowling, more bowling at the buttocks as a way of bringing in that mode of dismissal.

Just after I typed that, there were a couple of deliveries which found the edge down leg and went to fine leg for four. A leg slip might have been in business.

[handyman]

Early wicket for Jansen.

Phehlukwayo and Mulder had their chances, did not take it. Jansen has made the allrounder spot his own.

[FalseBayFC]

Jeez! Great start from the bowlers.

[handyman]

Since Elgar and Boucher have had a talk with Rabada in the middle of the second test, he has been sensational.

[Insane_Homer]

60/4

[handyman]

We need to make a call on Markram. 28 tests, average of 37.52.

[Rinkals]

Jansen gets the other opener.

I was listening to Sunil GAvaskar talking about how unlucky you are if you are out to a strangle down the leg side, but we've had quite a few dismissals like that in this series.

I reckon we should have a leg slip in and bowl for that mode of dismissal.

Douglas Jardine recommends it!

You ARE allowed two fielders backward of square leg.

I am certainly not suggesting bodyline bowling, more bowling at the buttocks as a way of bringing in that mode of dismissal.

Just after I typed that, there were a couple of deliveries which found the edge down leg and went to fine leg for four. A leg slip might have been in business.

Pujara looking to get inside the line and defend it down, the bounce makes him lose control a bit and he feathers it down, where leg slip dives to his right and plucks out a great catch.

And you guys keep telling me I know fokkol about cricket.

[Rinkals]

We need to make a call on Markram. 28 tests, average of 37.52.

He has made a few big hundreds against Australia.

I'd be inclined to keep faith with him, but it's a worry, especially with only 6 batsmen.

[OomStruisbaai]

Get vokken King Kohli!

[handyman]

We need to make a call on Markram. 28 tests, average of 37.52.

Petersen has done enough to get a good run in the team.

Rassie averaging 33.25 after 12 tests, another player under pressure. Also about to turn 33.

Elgar
Markram
Petersen
Van der Dussen
Bavuma
Verreynne
Jansen
Maharaj
Rabada
Nortje - back in when fit.
Ngidi

[Rinkals]

We need to make a call on Markram. 28 tests, average of 37.52.

Petersen has done enough to get a good run in the team.

Rassie averaging 33.25 after 12 tests, another player under pressure. Also about to turn 33.

Elgar
Markram
Petersen
Van der Dussen
Bavuma
Verreynne
Jansen
Maharaj
Rabada
Nortje - back in when fit.
Ngidi

Well, I would say Verreynne, but I know how sensitive you Capie types are about one of your own.

[Insane_Homer]

100/4 game going away from SA now. can't be chasing more than 150.

[OomStruisbaai]

We need to make a call on Markram. 28 tests, average of 37.52.

Petersen has done enough to get a good run in the team.

Rassie averaging 33.25 after 12 tests, another player under pressure. Also about to turn 33.

Elgar
Markram
Petersen
Van der Dussen
Bavuma
Verreynne
Jansen
Maharaj
Rabada
Nortje - back in when fit.
Ngidi

Stupid to drop Markram or Rassie. Both quality batsmen.

Need to keep this squad of players. I,d like to see another wrist spinner like Shamsi added.

Our next tests is against the Black Caps in NZ

[JM2K6]

We need to make a call on Markram. 28 tests, average of 37.52.

That's not bad in the current climate. Certainly his next 10 Tests would show if he can kick on, though.

[Grandpa]

Douglas Jardine recommends it!

You ARE allowed two fielders backward of square leg.

I am certainly not suggesting bodyline bowling, more bowling at the buttocks as a way of bringing in that mode of dismissal.

Just after I typed that, there were a couple of deliveries which found the edge down leg and went to fine leg for four. A leg slip might have been in business.

Pujara looking to get inside the line and defend it down, the bounce makes him lose control a bit and he feathers it down, where leg slip dives to his right and plucks out a great catch.

And you guys keep telling me I know fokkol about cricket.

Bring back buttockline bowling!

Who said you know fokkol? How rude of them.

[Grandpa]

100/4 game going away from SA now. can't be chasing more than 150.

Didn't SA chase down well over 200 last time? Or is the wicket that bad?

[OomStruisbaai]

100/4 game going away from SA now. can't be chasing more than 150.

Didn't SA chase down well over 200 last time? Or is the wicket that bad?

The Newlands pitch use to be slow and low , assisting spinners. This one look like the typical SA bouncy pitch. Eased out and maybe cracks on day 5.

[FalseBayFC]

Its very hot and dry here today. The cracks will start widening for sure.

[handyman]

We need to make a call on Markram. 28 tests, average of 37.52.

Petersen has done enough to get a good run in the team.

Rassie averaging 33.25 after 12 tests, another player under pressure. Also about to turn 33.

Elgar
Markram
Petersen
Van der Dussen
Bavuma
Verreynne
Jansen
Maharaj
Rabada
Nortje - back in when fit.
Ngidi

Stupid to drop Markram or Rassie. Both quality batsmen.

Need to keep this squad of players. I,d like to see another wrist spinner like Shamsi added.

Our next tests is against the Black Caps in NZ

When are they going to score runs like quality batsmen?

[handyman]

We need to make a call on Markram. 28 tests, average of 37.52.

That's not bad in the current climate. Certainly his next 10 Tests would show if he can kick on, though.

It's not bad, but he has the potential for so much more. 27 years old, so not a youngster anymore. One would think that he needs to cement his place sooner rather than later.

[JM2K6]

We need to make a call on Markram. 28 tests, average of 37.52.

That's not bad in the current climate. Certainly his next 10 Tests would show if he can kick on, though.

It's not bad, but he has the potential for so much more. 27 years old, so not a youngster anymore. One would think that he needs to cement his place sooner rather than later.

Right - especially if you have potentially better players available (I don't know if you do). But 28 Tests isn't that many and 37.5 is a good start. Jimmy Anderson's bowling average was 35 after 28 Tests! He's scored 5 hundreds already.

I do think another 10 Tests will tell you whether he's going to kick on or not. Wouldn't worry too much about his age given how long batters play for now though.

[handyman]

That's not bad in the current climate. Certainly his next 10 Tests would show if he can kick on, though.

It's not bad, but he has the potential for so much more. 27 years old, so not a youngster anymore. One would think that he needs to cement his place sooner rather than later.

Right - especially if you have potentially better players available (I don't know if you do). But 28 Tests isn't that many and 37.5 is a good start. Jimmy Anderson's bowling average was 35 after 28 Tests! He's scored 5 hundreds already.

I do think another 10 Tests will tell you whether he's going to kick on or not. Wouldn't worry too much about his age given how long batters play for now though.

I think they will stick with as he's a possible future captain.

[JM2K6]

It's not bad, but he has the potential for so much more. 27 years old, so not a youngster anymore. One would think that he needs to cement his place sooner rather than later.

Right - especially if you have potentially better players available (I don't know if you do). But 28 Tests isn't that many and 37.5 is a good start. Jimmy Anderson's bowling average was 35 after 28 Tests! He's scored 5 hundreds already.

I do think another 10 Tests will tell you whether he's going to kick on or not. Wouldn't worry too much about his age given how long batters play for now though.

I think they will stick with as he's a possible future captain.

Digging into his stats a bit more, is it fair to say he struggles with slow bowlers? Half of his matches have come against India (avg 16) and Sri Lanka (26.6). He averages a whopping 60 against the Aussies and 47.5 against Pakistan. He's barely played against the other sides.

[Insane_Homer]

180/8

[handyman]

Right - especially if you have potentially better players available (I don't know if you do). But 28 Tests isn't that many and 37.5 is a good start. Jimmy Anderson's bowling average was 35 after 28 Tests! He's scored 5 hundreds already.

I do think another 10 Tests will tell you whether he's going to kick on or not. Wouldn't worry too much about his age given how long batters play for now though.

I think they will stick with as he's a possible future captain.

Digging into his stats a bit more, is it fair to say he struggles with slow bowlers? Half of his matches have come against India (avg 16) and Sri Lanka (26.6). He averages a whopping 60 against the Aussies and 47.5 against Pakistan. He's barely played against the other sides.

He certainly prefers fast bowlers, but he has had a tough time vs Shami.

[handyman]

Chasing about 200 to win the test and the series, should be good to watch. Need to blast the tail out sharpish.

[Insane_Homer]

effectively 202/9

Pant 1 shot away from his ton.

[Insane_Homer]

Match and series winning ton from Pant.

[JM2K6]

Good to see him back in some form, he's such an exciting player.

[handyman]

211 for the test and the series.

[not_english]

212 to win. Is going to take some doing I suspect.

[OomStruisbaai]

Proteas need 212 runs. Ditto previous test.

[not_english]

odds are evens at the moment

[FalseBayFC]

Proteas are going to walk this. Markram to ton up!

[FalseBayFC]

Aaaand there goes Markram again. At least he wasn't lbw or bowled.

[handyman]

The end of a tough series for Markram. Scores of 13, 1, 7, 31, 8 and 16 for an average of 12.67.

[FalseBayFC]

The end of a tough series for Markram. Scores of 13, 1, 7, 31, 8 and 16 for an average of 12.67.

After that shot he needs to be dropped. It was desperation stuff, trying to do a Pant. I still think his natural position is at no.4 rather than opening. I know he's played nearly all his cricket as an opener but he's being exposed.