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KingBlairhorn wrote: Wed Feb 09, 2022 6:50 pm For anyone who watched the U20s, Leatherbarrow (the very impressive 8) has been recalled to Exeter with a view to being in their prem squad at the weekend.

Harrison is lined up to start at hooker so one of the Edinburgh hookers (presumably Cherry) will be released back, otherwise they will have only 1 senior hooker for the Leinster game.
I noticed that Leatherbarrow wasn’t in the team for Friday. Disappointing as I was looking forward to seeing him play.
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Tested positive this morning. That's three from our group now.
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Biffer wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:05 am Tested positive this morning. That's three from our group now.
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Johnson starts for Glasgow. Hoping to see Redpath start.
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Biffer wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:05 am Tested positive this morning. That's three from our group now.
Currently on day 6, I hope you don't get hit too badly.
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Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:42 am Johnson starts for Glasgow. Hoping to see Redpath start.
That would be awesome (I may be being guilty of hyping the guy up though, though he is a classy player)
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S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:52 am
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:42 am Johnson starts for Glasgow. Hoping to see Redpath start.
That would be awesome (I may be being guilty of hyping the guy up though, though he is a classy player)
Reckon it'll be Tuipolotu.

I'm a huge fan of Redpath but his appearances for Bath he's looked like someone who hasn't played rugby for a year and isn't completely sure of his body and his fitness isn't there. It's a huge risk to play him. If we want a classy centre dominating the premiership it's Rory Hutchinson.
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Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:42 am Johnson starts for Glasgow. Hoping to see Redpath start.
Or the Thistle lads are correct and Tuipulotu is starting.
So I squares up, casual like.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:00 pm
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:52 am
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:42 am Johnson starts for Glasgow. Hoping to see Redpath start.
That would be awesome (I may be being guilty of hyping the guy up though, though he is a classy player)
Reckon it'll be Tuipolotu.

I'm a huge fan of Redpath but his appearances for Bath he's looked like someone who hasn't played rugby for a year and isn't completely sure of his body and his fitness isn't there. It's a huge risk to play him. If we want a classy centre dominating the premiership it's Rory Hutchinson.
Yeah, I agree, big risk. Tuipolotu more likely to start.
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Biffer wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:05 am Tested positive this morning. That's three from our group now.
Bugger. I was off work for 11 days. I’m negative now, but the cough it started with is worse than it was when I was off!
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Yr Alban wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:03 pm
Biffer wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:05 am Tested positive this morning. That's three from our group now.
Bugger. I was off work for 11 days. I’m negative now, but the cough it started with is worse than it was when I was off!
I had it in December, barely had a cough to begin with, the weeks after I'd tested negative I had a hellish cough.
So I squares up, casual like.
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2 years and nothing. Not a fucking thing. Folk are getting all this extra leave (especially recently) and not a sniff for me - pun intended.
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Begbie wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:01 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:42 am Johnson starts for Glasgow. Hoping to see Redpath start.
Or the Thistle lads are correct and Tuipulotu is starting.
They definitely have some inside info. Got the front row swap right too.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:00 pm
S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:52 am
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 11:42 am Johnson starts for Glasgow. Hoping to see Redpath start.
That would be awesome (I may be being guilty of hyping the guy up though, though he is a classy player)
Reckon it'll be Tuipolotu.

I'm a huge fan of Redpath but his appearances for Bath he's looked like someone who hasn't played rugby for a year and isn't completely sure of his body and his fitness isn't there. It's a huge risk to play him. If we want a classy centre dominating the premiership it's Rory Hutchinson.
I'd forgotten about Hutch tbf. Would happily see him start too. I'll not be disgruntled to see Tuipolotu start but there are better centres.
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Tuipolotu starts, Redpath on the bench. Hopefully he'll get his second cap and keep his 100% win rate!

Skinner starts at 6, Bradbury on the bench again. Darge on the bench too.

Front rows swapped round. Sounds like Townsend wants to contain the Welsh scrum initially then have more a mobile pack unleash havoc later on.
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Bench looks a bit weak. Not a bad starting 15 considering the amount in the Scotland squad.
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S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:41 pm Tuipolotu starts, Redpath on the bench. Hopefully he'll get his second cap and keep his 100% win rate!

Skinner starts at 6, Bradbury on the bench again. Darge on the bench too.

Front rows swapped round. Sounds like Townsend wants to contain the Welsh scrum initially then have more a mobile pack unleash havoc later on.
That’s how I read it. I can see the argument. Wales are bound to come flying out of the starting blocks, so play a containment game until they run out of steam a bit.

Happy with that idea. Not entirely convinced with Tupilotu as starting 12, but he probably isn’t a big step down from Johnson on current form. I would dearly love to see Hutchinson get a chance though.
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Ritchie out for the duration.
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Biffer wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:53 pm Ritchie out for the duration.
Hope you are feeling OK.

Achh that’s shite for us and Ritchie, he was looking and being noticed elsewhere as knocking on world class

Still not convinced by Tuipulotu but they’ve had him on the squad for a bit now so I guess we have to trust the selection
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Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:41 pm

Bench looks a bit weak. Not a bad starting 15 considering the amount in the Scotland squad.
Agreed on the bench. Quite a new team really, five kids and six of last summer's signings in the starting lineup.
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robmatic wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:01 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:41 pm

Bench looks a bit weak. Not a bad starting 15 considering the amount in the Scotland squad.
Agreed on the bench. Quite a new team really, five kids and six of last summer's signings in the starting lineup.
Well, it’s away to Leinster, so we’d have been losing with a full team out anyway
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It occurred to me that you could actually put together a serious team using only players who can’t get into the Scotland 23 right now (some can’t even make the squad!)

1. Kebble
2. Brown
3. Berghan
4. Cummings
5. R. Gray
6. Crosbie
7. Richardson
8. Haining
9. Vellacott
10. Hastings
11. McLean
12. Hutchinson
13. Jones
14. Steyn
15. Maitland

Subs: Bhatti, Cherry, Rae, Craig, Christie, Horne, Bennett, Rowe

Light at prop and FB. Impressively strong elsewhere.
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Yr Alban wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:41 pm It occurred to me that you could actually put together a serious team using only players who can’t get into the Scotland 23 right now (some can’t even make the squad!)

1. Kebble
2. Brown
3. Berghan
4. Cummings
5. R. Gray
6. Crosbie
7. Richardson
8. Haining
9. Vellacott
10. Hastings
11. McLean
12. Hutchinson
13. Jones
14. Steyn
15. Maitland

Subs: Bhatti, Cherry, Rae, Craig, Christie, Horne, Bennett, Rowe

Light at prop and FB. Impressively strong elsewhere.
Cole Forbes is SQ so he could play 15.
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Yr Alban wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:41 pm It occurred to me that you could actually put together a serious team using only players who can’t get into the Scotland 23 right now (some can’t even make the squad!)

1. Kebble
2. Brown
3. Berghan
4. Cummings
5. R. Gray
6. Crosbie
7. Richardson
8. Haining
9. Vellacott
10. Hastings
11. McLean
12. Hutchinson
13. Jones
14. Steyn
15. Maitland

Subs: Bhatti, Cherry, Rae, Craig, Christie, Horne, Bennett, Rowe

Light at prop and FB. Impressively strong elsewhere.
Better than a number of teams we've put out in the last twenty years.
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Biffer wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:50 pm
Yr Alban wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 1:41 pm It occurred to me that you could actually put together a serious team using only players who can’t get into the Scotland 23 right now (some can’t even make the squad!)

1. Kebble
2. Brown
3. Berghan
4. Cummings
5. R. Gray
6. Crosbie
7. Richardson
8. Haining
9. Vellacott
10. Hastings
11. McLean
12. Hutchinson
13. Jones
14. Steyn
15. Maitland

Subs: Bhatti, Cherry, Rae, Craig, Christie, Horne, Bennett, Rowe

Light at prop and FB. Impressively strong elsewhere.
Better than a number of teams we've put out in the last twenty years.
That’s what I thought. If we fielded that side in the AIs, you’d probably think ‘bit experimental’ but you wouldn’t actually be horrified, or think it spelled certain doom.
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Biffer wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:53 pm Ritchie out for the duration.
Toony saying this morning he thinks that’s it for the season after an operation yesterday. Such a shame
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The Bam Squad :lol:

So I squares up, casual like.
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Slick wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 8:39 am
Biffer wrote: Thu Feb 10, 2022 12:53 pm Ritchie out for the duration.
Toony saying this morning he thinks that’s it for the season after an operation yesterday. Such a shame

Shit, I had resigned myself to him not being int he Scotland squad but at least seeing him in an Edinburgh shirt for the business end of the club season. It's an area of strength in depth for us, but Ritchie is an exceptional player.
Hopefully he'll come back even stronger next season.
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Just for fun, I wondered what our 3rd team might look like. Ruled out anyone I named in the 2nd team (including on the bench). Also ruled out anyone who seems to have retired, openly or effectively (Wilson, Toolis, Grigg, Taylor) and anyone who has fallen off the radar entirely (Luke Hamilton, SHC). Still limited the selection to players who have been in or around the squad in recent times, save a couple of bench choices who I’m sure have been in the mix.

It’s doable if you bring back a few old stagers. If you don’t like Scott at 13, he could be swapped out for McDowall. Not sure I’d want to watch this team, but it was always going to be a barrel-scraping exercise!

1. Auterac
2. Kerr
3. Sebastian
4. Hodgson
5. Sykes
6. Harley
7. Gordon
8. B. Thomson
9. Steele
10. R. Thompson
11. Hoyland
12. Lang
13. Scott
14. McGuigan
15. Forbes

Subs: Hislop, Stewart, McCallum, Carmichael, Boyle, Dobie, Savala, McDowall
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Yr Alban wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:26 am Just for fun, I wondered what our 3rd team might look like. Ruled out anyone I named in the 2nd team (including on the bench). Also ruled out anyone who seems to have retired, openly or effectively (Wilson, Toolis, Grigg, Taylor) and anyone who has fallen off the radar entirely (Luke Hamilton, SHC). Still limited the selection to players who have been in or around the squad in recent times, save a couple of bench choices who I’m sure have been in the mix.

It’s doable if you bring back a few old stagers. If you don’t like Scott at 13, he could be swapped out for McDowall. Not sure I’d want to watch this team, but it was always going to be a barrel-scraping exercise!

1. Auterac
2. Kerr
3. Sebastian
4. Hodgson
5. Sykes
6. Harley
7. Gordon
8. B. Thomson
9. Steele
10. R. Thompson
11. Hoyland
12. Lang
13. Scott
14. McGuigan
15. Forbes

Subs: Hislop, Stewart, McCallum, Carmichael, Boyle, Dobie, Savala, McDowall

Kerr could probably do a job for us. Hodgson and Sykes will win many full caps in the next few years. I'd put Muncaster in the back row, he is a beast. Carmichael had to retire last year due to ongoing concussion problems, unfortunately.
Currie at 13 for Edinburgh looks like a real prospect

Props, particularly good tight heads are like hens teeth at the moment
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Tichtheid wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:42 am
Yr Alban wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:26 am Just for fun, I wondered what our 3rd team might look like. Ruled out anyone I named in the 2nd team (including on the bench). Also ruled out anyone who seems to have retired, openly or effectively (Wilson, Toolis, Grigg, Taylor) and anyone who has fallen off the radar entirely (Luke Hamilton, SHC). Still limited the selection to players who have been in or around the squad in recent times, save a couple of bench choices who I’m sure have been in the mix.

It’s doable if you bring back a few old stagers. If you don’t like Scott at 13, he could be swapped out for McDowall. Not sure I’d want to watch this team, but it was always going to be a barrel-scraping exercise!

1. Auterac
2. Kerr
3. Sebastian
4. Hodgson
5. Sykes
6. Harley
7. Gordon
8. B. Thomson
9. Steele
10. R. Thompson
11. Hoyland
12. Lang
13. Scott
14. McGuigan
15. Forbes

Subs: Hislop, Stewart, McCallum, Carmichael, Boyle, Dobie, Savala, McDowall

Kerr could probably do a job for us. Hodgson and Sykes will win many full caps in the next few years. I'd put Muncaster in the back row, he is a beast. Carmichael had to retire last year due to ongoing concussion problems, unfortunately.
Currie at 13 for Edinburgh looks like a real prospect

Props, particularly good tight heads are like hens teeth at the moment
Berghan is starting for Glasgow this weekend. Rae plays weekly at Bath. Berghy is more than serviceable. Fagerson, Berghan and Nel is a good three. We desperately need Walker to come through.

I wonder the plan at Edinburgh actually. Nel probably has a year or two left. Then it's De Bruin - unconvincing. Don't tell me Atalifo and Williams are expected to step up. What a mess Cockers made of it in the end. Now is exactly when McCallum should have been week in week out starter.
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:45 am
Tichtheid wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:42 am
Yr Alban wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 10:26 am Just for fun, I wondered what our 3rd team might look like. Ruled out anyone I named in the 2nd team (including on the bench). Also ruled out anyone who seems to have retired, openly or effectively (Wilson, Toolis, Grigg, Taylor) and anyone who has fallen off the radar entirely (Luke Hamilton, SHC). Still limited the selection to players who have been in or around the squad in recent times, save a couple of bench choices who I’m sure have been in the mix.

It’s doable if you bring back a few old stagers. If you don’t like Scott at 13, he could be swapped out for McDowall. Not sure I’d want to watch this team, but it was always going to be a barrel-scraping exercise!

1. Auterac
2. Kerr
3. Sebastian
4. Hodgson
5. Sykes
6. Harley
7. Gordon
8. B. Thomson
9. Steele
10. R. Thompson
11. Hoyland
12. Lang
13. Scott
14. McGuigan
15. Forbes

Subs: Hislop, Stewart, McCallum, Carmichael, Boyle, Dobie, Savala, McDowall

Kerr could probably do a job for us. Hodgson and Sykes will win many full caps in the next few years. I'd put Muncaster in the back row, he is a beast. Carmichael had to retire last year due to ongoing concussion problems, unfortunately.
Currie at 13 for Edinburgh looks like a real prospect

Props, particularly good tight heads are like hens teeth at the moment
Berghan is starting for Glasgow this weekend. Rae plays weekly at Bath. Berghy is more than serviceable. Fagerson, Berghan and Nel is a good three. We desperately need Walker to come through.

I wonder the plan at Edinburgh actually. Nel probably has a year or two left. Then it's De Bruin - unconvincing. Don't tell me Atalifo and Williams are expected to step up. What a mess Cockers made of it in the end. Now is exactly when McCallum should have been week in week out starter.
Dan Gamble is the next cab off the rank from the Edinburgh academy and is well regarded. He is around 20/21 now I think, so realistically it might be a couple of years until he is regularly starting for Edinburgh, let alone Scotland. Zander's rise was extremely unusual in terms of his breakthrough age.

There's also Mak Wilson who is slightly older (21/22) and at Quins. I think he has benched for them once or twice now. I'm sure I heard he was back up playing in the Super6 last year, but perhaps I'm misremembering.

Murphy Walker was a loosie I think at U20 - has he converted to tighthead?
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Also have Ewan Ashman Sale hooker that has not been mentioned
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oops, I assumed as this was a hypothetical third team, guys like Ashman and Bergs would in the seconds squad
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Are the U20’s on iPlayer tonight? If so, anyone know kick off time?
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Slick wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:28 pm Are the U20’s on iPlayer tonight? If so, anyone know kick off time?
8pm for all three games.
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sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:30 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:28 pm Are the U20’s on iPlayer tonight? If so, anyone know kick off time?
8pm for all three games.
Think the Italy England game is 1900 UK time, 2000 Italian time
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Madness wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:32 pm
sockwithaticket wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:30 pm
Slick wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:28 pm Are the U20’s on iPlayer tonight? If so, anyone know kick off time?
8pm for all three games.
Think the Italy England game is 1900 UK time, 2000 Italian time
So it is.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union ... 2022-02-11

Thankfully the denizens of this thread won't have been too affected by that little slip up.
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Slick wrote: Fri Feb 11, 2022 4:28 pm Are the U20’s on iPlayer tonight? If so, anyone know kick off time?
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