Sards wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:33 amCorrect. There is so little happening here I lose interest and would rather watch all the hig wave surfing going on atm than wait 5 hours for someone to postassfly wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:09 amThere are hardly any of us on here these days. Besides, what is there to discuss? The games are so average.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 8:42 am $hark$ supporters boycott the thread after losing. They'll return this weekend after beating the Bulle at Loftus and Stormers losing to Lions
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Previous match their defense and scrum destroyed us. Add Ellispark and their desperation and they can beat us easily. Going to be a big match.handyman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:00 amOnly thing in the Lions favour is home ground advantage. We certainly have the better team and players at the moment. Let's see what happens. Stormers by more than 10.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:49 am Man on man Lions look much stronger then the Stormers. Lions by 50
Bulls the favourites at Loftus.
Yep, they klapped us 37-19, but I think since then they've gone backwards and we've been doing better.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 12:25 pmPrevious match their defense and scrum destroyed us. Add Ellispark and their desperation and they can beat us easily. Going to be a big match.handyman wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 11:00 amOnly thing in the Lions favour is home ground advantage. We certainly have the better team and players at the moment. Let's see what happens. Stormers by more than 10.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:49 am Man on man Lions look much stronger then the Stormers. Lions by 50
Bulls the favourites at Loftus.
Either way, looking forward to a great game.
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Stormers have 9 capped Boks and 2 Blitzboks. Lions have Jaco Kriel and Simelane. Stormers are favourites by a country mile.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 9:49 am Man on man Lions look much stronger then the Stormers. Lions by 50
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Bulls TeamFalseBayFC wrote: ↑Thu Feb 10, 2022 9:44 am Marius Louw in for Jeremy Ward. Otherwise unchanged. Jaden and Don't Cry for Me still at 9/10.
15 David Kriel 14 Cornal Hendricks 13 Lionel Mapoe 12 Harold Vorster 11 Madosh Tambwe 10 Morné Steyn 9 Zak Burger 8 Elrigh Louw 7 Arno Botha, 6 Marcell Coetzee (captain) 5 Ruan Nortje 4 Walt Steenkamp 3 Jacques van Rooyen 2 Johan Grobbelaar 1 Gerhard Steenekamp.
Bench: 16 Bismarck du Plessis 17 Simphiwe Matanzima 18 Robert Hunt 19 Janko Swanepoel 20 Muller Uys 21 Embrose Papier 22 Chris Smith 23 Canan Moodie.
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Can't believe that's a yellow.
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Okay. Who's the fanny wearing tights !
It's 8C this evening; it's hardly arctic conditions out there.
It's 8C this evening; it's hardly arctic conditions out there.
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25c in Struisbaai. Beach was lovely today.
Moyano. Tbf even in 8c its still a bit chilly if you're not getting the ball much.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:17 pm Okay. Who's the fanny wearing tights !
It's 8C this evening; it's hardly arctic conditions out there.
If they can't get a score with Leinster tackling each other the games completely done.
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True, but he isn't a great fit for Scottish conditions if he needs the tights on a mild evening like this.Jock42 wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:28 pmMoyano. Tbf even in 8c its still a bit chilly if you're not getting the ball much.fishfoodie wrote: ↑Fri Feb 11, 2022 7:17 pm Okay. Who's the fanny wearing tights !
It's 8C this evening; it's hardly arctic conditions out there.
If they can't get a score with Leinster tackling each other the games completely done.
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Looks like manky conditions in Glasgow tonight.
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No contact with the head. Didn't look that way on first glance.
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Stormers very lucky.
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Libbok the best 10 in SA?
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Deon Fourie. Nice
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Stormers is in good form. (Is this gloating) Open a bit of a gap on the log the real test will be in two weeks against Connacht.
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Bulls try to win the fight
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Stormers looked good. Dobbo is on a roll with this team.
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A bit of heat in this match from the start. Handbags at pointblank.
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Willemse and Gelant were great together in the backline. Deon Fourie is incredible at age 35.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 2:50 pm Stormers is in good form. (Is this gloating) Open a bit of a gap on the log the real test will be in two weeks against Connacht.
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12 surely Willemse best position. Hope he stay there.
Deon Fourie look pure Bok. Orie & Adre in great nick.
Deon Fourie look pure Bok. Orie & Adre in great nick.
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Bye Moernaai
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Probably first red card or even yellow he's ever had. Normally a very disciplined player.
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OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Wed Feb 09, 2022 11:52 am SSSA position in URC not nearly as bad as it appears
08 February 2022 | 15:58
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The South African teams are all confined to the bottom half of the Vodacom United Rugby Championship log but their position is not nearly as parlous as it first appears if you look at the final detail and consider what is about to come next.
While all the South African teams have now played eight games, which is the same number as fourth-placed Leinster, who are 12 points distant, there’s an anomaly that spawns a distorted view - none of the overseas teams have played in South Africa yet.
We saw in the days when the Toyota Cheetahs were playing in the Pro14 that the story tends to unfold very differently when the teams who have the advantage in northern hemisphere conditions, come south of the equator. Even in their worst years, the Southern Kings were often competitive against the top teams when they played them in Port Elizabeth.
And the South African teams are about to go into an extended run of home matches against those teams. There is one round of derby games to go this weekend, then the local sides travel north for one game each - the Stormers visit Connacht, the Vodacom Bulls go to Parma Zebre, the Cell C Sharks to Benetton and the Emirates Lions to Leinster - before coming home for an appetising almost non-stop sequence of games on South African soil that extends through until late May.
WINS AGAINST IRISH TEAMS ARE KEY TO SUCCESS
There’s one last derby round on the weekend of 9 April but otherwise it is all South African teams against overseas teams at home until 21 May. The Stormers, Bulls, Lions and Sharks will fancy their chances of winning on home soil. They will certainly back themselves against the Italian, Welsh and maybe the Scottish teams, with perhaps the key to local success riding on how they go against the Irish sides.
There are certainly some appetising games on home soil against Irish teams in the not-too-distant future for the South Africans, such as the Bulls hosting Munster in a few weeks' time and a resurgent Stormers playing Ulster in Cape Town in early April. If the South African teams can add to the wins they expect to get against the Welsh, Scottish and Italian teams with some big performances against the Irish, the entire log can take on a different complexion.
Manage that, and the race for local teams won’t just be for the top half of the log positions that will enable teams who don’t win their pool (Shield) to earn Champions Cup qualification, which some are assuming, but for the URC trophy itself.
Sharks coach Sean Everitt lamented after his team lost to the Stormers this past weekend that the understrength nature of some of the rescheduled games being played by overseas teams is an obstacle to any South African advancement up the log.
“We have seen teams produce some upset results which means they strengthen their hand in the quest for Champions Cup places and make it difficult for us to make an impression on the log,” said Everitt.
That is true, but if the South African teams use the conditions to their advantage and win the bulk of their home games against foreign teams, they should be up there challenging by the time we get to the second half of May. After a slow start because of the Covid disruptions and the South African teams’ need to get accustomed to touring again, the URC promises to become really exciting from here.
LOGJAM AT THE TOP
And exciting is a good word to use for what is happening at the top of the log right now. Ulster have gone to the summit of the table, but again a closer look at the log shows that no one team is really in pole position or dominant.
Ulster went top with a comprehensive win over fellow Irish team Connacht at the weekend, a result which avenged the unexpected loss to Connacht last October that halted their momentum. However, the fine-print needs looking at - yes, Ulster are top, and long-time champions of the competition in its previous guise as the Pro14, Leinster, are fourth, but Leinster have two games in hand on their Irish rivals.
And with six points between the teams, that means that Leinster just must win their two games in hand, meaning they don’t need bonus points, for them to go back to the top. Indeed, Edinburgh, currently second on the log and two points adrift of Ulster, might be more problematic for Leinster in the sense that the Scots have played just one game more, as have the other Scottish team, Glasgow Warriors, who are third on the overall log with 31 points, one ahead of Leinster and five behind Ulster.
It is very nip and tuck at the top, and who the favoured teams for play-off places are will only become clearer once the number of games played has evened up, and there’s been more parity in who plays at home and who plays away.
Correctly identifies that wins against the Irish sides may be important, but I think there is an underestimaion of the Scottish teams.If the South African teams can add to the wins they expect to get against the Welsh, Scottish and Italian teams with some big performances against the Irish, the entire log can take on a different complexion.
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Two things irritating me about this Sharks team. 1. One of the locks has a manbun 2. Jade Hendrickse has got the box kick of an 11 year old... girl.
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Bongi throwing watermelons.
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Bulls playing with14, not taking their 3 points is just plain stupid.
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now they try this stupid tap and run
Stransky thinks a team that has Marcell Coetzee in it, doesn't have a fetcher.
Stransky thinks if the Bulls knock on then Bongi throws a forward pass behind his try line, then that's not a Sharks penalty for the Bulls knock on.
Time for Stransky to retire, doesn't know his rugby.
Stransky thinks if the Bulls knock on then Bongi throws a forward pass behind his try line, then that's not a Sharks penalty for the Bulls knock on.
Time for Stransky to retire, doesn't know his rugby.
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Welcome back Ox. We miss the $hark$ supporters._Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:02 pm Stransky thinks a team that has Marcell Coetzee in it, doesn't have a fetcher.
Stransky thinks if the Bulls knock on then Bongi throws a forward pass behind his try line, then that's not a Sharks penalty for the Bulls knock on.
Time for Stransky to retire, doesn't know his rugby.
The Sharks are winning on Loftus, dirty Morne Steyn has been hauled off, Jake White has egg on his face.OomStruisbaai wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:08 pmWelcome back Ox. We miss the $hark$ supporters._Os_ wrote: ↑Sat Feb 12, 2022 4:02 pm Stransky thinks a team that has Marcell Coetzee in it, doesn't have a fetcher.
Stransky thinks if the Bulls knock on then Bongi throws a forward pass behind his try line, then that's not a Sharks penalty for the Bulls knock on.
Time for Stransky to retire, doesn't know his rugby.
So I am back.
Sharks have their scrumhalf carded. Scrum. Sharks don't put a player in the scrumhalf position, so they have more defenders in the line. Without looking it up, I reckon that's wrong and you always have to have someone in the 9 position at the set piece. Ref says nothing, commentators say nothing.
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$hark$ can't lose this one.
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Bulls look like a rugby old age home
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$hark$ nearly poes it away
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Friday, 25 February 2022 - No CC
* Zebre v Bulls
* Leinster v Lions
Saturday, 26 February 2022 - No CC
* Connacht v Stormers
* Benetton Rugby v Sharks
* Zebre v Bulls
* Leinster v Lions
Saturday, 26 February 2022 - No CC
* Connacht v Stormers
* Benetton Rugby v Sharks