The Official English Rugby Thread

[Hal Jordan]

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Gleeson talking about the possibility of Tuilagi making an appearance in the back row on Saturday, what a fucking complete arse clown and an insult to all the back rowers in the wider squad who got sent back to their clubs.

Andy Farrell: "I've been there, trust me, you don't want that."

[JM2K6]

Gosh it's very hard to understand why sane coaches don't hang around the English side long

[Paddington Bear]

Randall starting!

[JM2K6]

Wow.

Ben Youngs finally gets some positive press and gets dropped!

edit: Oh, Ewels starts. He giveth and he taketh away...

[Paddington Bear]

Hard to argue with that side beyond Ewels. Exciting backline.

[JM2K6]

15. Freddie Steward

14. Max Malins

13. Henry Slade

12. Manu Tuilagi

11. Jack Nowell

10. Marcus Smith

9. Harry Randall

1. Ellis Genge

2. Luke Cowan-Dickie

3. Kyle Sinckler

4. Charlie Ewels

5. Maro Itoje

6. Courtney Lawes (c)

7. Tom Curry

8. Alex Dombrandt

Finishers

16. Jamie George

17. Joe Marler

18. Will Stuart

19. Nick Isiekwe

20. Sam Simmonds

21. Ben Youngs

22. George Ford

23. Elliot Daly

I'd argue that Nowell's made of glass and has done nothing in ages to demand a call-up, but I don't rule out that he might have a positive impact this time. Manu is a bit of a gamble still. Daly rewarded for not much.

[Hal Jordan]

Blimey, I did not see that coming. Pretty happy with that.

[Paddington Bear]

Manu is always a gamble worth taking IMHO. Wales will set up differently with him in the side.

[Ovals]

Woo Hooo Randall is starting

England team to face Wales: Steward; Malins, Slade, Tuilagi, Nowell; Smith, Randall; Genge, Cowan-Dickie, Sinckler, Ewels, Itoje, Lawes (Capt), Curry, Dombrandt.

Replacements: George, Marler, Stuart, Isiekwe, Simmonds, Youngs, Ford, Daly.

That's a real turn up for the books. Just a shame we don't have Launchbury in place of Ewels, and a bit more pace in the back three - other than that, it looks pretty good,

[Slick]

15. Freddie Steward

14. Max Malins

13. Henry Slade

12. Manu Tuilagi

11. Jack Nowell

10. Marcus Smith

9. Harry Randall

1. Ellis Genge

2. Luke Cowan-Dickie

3. Kyle Sinckler

4. Charlie Ewels

5. Maro Itoje

6. Courtney Lawes (c)

7. Tom Curry

8. Alex Dombrandt

Finishers

16. Jamie George

17. Joe Marler

18. Will Stuart

19. Nick Isiekwe

20. Sam Simmonds

21. Ben Youngs

22. George Ford

23. Elliot Daly

I'd argue that Nowell's made of glass and has done nothing in ages to demand a call-up, but I don't rule out that he might have a positive impact this time. Manu is a bit of a gamble still. Daly rewarded for not much.

You could fairly quickly find yourselves with Daly on the wing and Ford at 12. Which would be fun

[sockwithaticket]

Woo Hooo Randall is starting

England team to face Wales: Steward; Malins, Slade, Tuilagi, Nowell; Smith, Randall; Genge, Cowan-Dickie, Sinckler, Ewels, Itoje, Lawes (Capt), Curry, Dombrandt.

Replacements: George, Marler, Stuart, Isiekwe, Simmonds, Youngs, Ford, Daly.

That's a real turn up for the books. Just a shame we don't have Launchbury in place of Ewels, and a bit more pace in the back three - other than that, it looks pretty good,

Pretty much my thoughts too.

[Oxbow]

Had it ever happened before where the two opposing captains are from the same club - and neither are actually captain at that club.

[Paddington Bear]

You've got to assume Launch is being kept back for the last two after a bit more game time.

[Ovals]

Woo Hooo Randall is starting

England team to face Wales: Steward; Malins, Slade, Tuilagi, Nowell; Smith, Randall; Genge, Cowan-Dickie, Sinckler, Ewels, Itoje, Lawes (Capt), Curry, Dombrandt.

Replacements: George, Marler, Stuart, Isiekwe, Simmonds, Youngs, Ford, Daly.

That's a real turn up for the books. Just a shame we don't have Launchbury in place of Ewels, and a bit more pace in the back three - other than that, it looks pretty good,

Pretty much my thoughts too.

Bench is little bit of a mixed bag. Don't think Youngs adds any value as a bench player, George and Marler are excellent options - Stuart and Isiekwe less so, Ford really only covers FH but is a very good option there, Daly is, at least, a good utilty player, Simmonds might be handy if the game opens up in the last 1/4. But there's little there that you'd expect to make a huge impact if we need to turn a score around.

[Ovals]

You've got to assume Launch is being kept back for the last two after a bit more game time.

In which case he should have been released to Wasps last weekend !!

[duke]

I'd be happier with Isiekwe starting rather than Ewels - he's got way more presence.

[Ovals]

I'd be happier with Isiekwe starting rather than Ewels - he's got way more presence.

yep - Ewels seems a bit of an empty shirt - not sure what eddie sees in him.

[JM2K6]

Probably too dumb to question if it's him being substituted

[ASMO]

[ASMO]

Randall starting, has Eddie finally seen the light?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

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Gleeson talking about the possibility of Tuilagi making an appearance in the back row on Saturday, what a fucking complete arse clown and an insult to all the back rowers in the wider squad who got sent back to their clubs.

Andy Farrell: "I've been there, trust me, you don't want that."

One assume they're talking about specific scenarios in which it allows them to put Manu up against halfbacks on the carry, in which case fine, although Sam Simmonds might want to cough noisily in the background. I cannot imagine they mean over multiphase more than a centre would normally end up as an auxiliary backrow. Probably something they are looking to shift the balance in a little with both Manu and Nowell in the backline, because we have struggled to support our own ball

[S Club]

Randall starting, has Eddie finally seen the light?

Randall to start, have an average game, cementing Youngs' position as first choice scrum half through to the RWC and beyond. Here. First.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Randall starting, has Eddie finally seen the light?

Randall to start, have an average game, cementing Youngs' position as first choice scrum half through to the RWC and beyond. Here. First.

It's a process.

First we had he'll only pick Youngs, then he picked Randall, then we had he'll revert to Youngs for Wales and he picked Randall, now we're getting the one bad game allowance before reverting to Youngs. It is just possible in how we're setting up to attack the transition he likes the extra breaking speed of Randall and Smith, we are now looking more than a little rugby league in trying to go up the middle

[Hal Jordan]

I wonder if (hope that) Jones is doing to Youngs what he has done to a couple of other first names on the team sheet. Move them or bench them to accommodate the new talent, then eventually drop them for good.

That would be nice.

[Happyhooker]

Richards gets a 3 week ban for his coments last week

[SaintK]

Richards gets a 3 week ban for his coments last week

Good and so he should

[Margin__Walker]

Manu gone before he even came. So to speak

[Kawazaki]

Tuilagi Eddied in training.

[Margin__Walker]

Bet Sale are thrilled

[JM2K6]

I hate to say I told you so, particularly when "Manu is fragile" isn't exactly searing insight, but it's a waste of fucking time trying to rely on him.

[Kawazaki]

Time to poach another Samoan.

[JM2K6]

Probably got broken in scrum training, more quality ideas lads

[fishfoodie]

It feels like this is the first time, since Jesus was in short pants, that England a starting a game, with a SH that can provide good, quick ball; & a FH that won't just kick it away aimlessly.

Wales could be in for another very painful weekend.

[sefton]

15. Freddie Steward

14. Max Malins

13. Henry Slade

12. Manu Tuilagi

11. Jack Nowell

10. Marcus Smith

9. Harry Randall

1. Ellis Genge

2. Luke Cowan-Dickie

3. Kyle Sinckler

4. Charlie Ewels

5. Maro Itoje

6. Courtney Lawes (c)

7. Tom Curry

8. Alex Dombrandt

Finishers

16. Jamie George

17. Joe Marler

18. Will Stuart

19. Nick Isiekwe

20. Sam Simmonds

21. Ben Youngs

22. George Ford

23. Elliot Daly

I'd argue that Nowell's made of glass and has done nothing in ages to demand a call-up, but I don't rule out that he might have a positive impact this time. Manu is a bit of a gamble still. Daly rewarded for not much.

I’m just pleasantly surprised that Lawes was recalled instead of him finding a place for Daly in the BR.

[Hal Jordan]

I hate to say I told you so, particularly when "Manu is fragile" isn't exactly searing insight, but it's a waste of fucking time trying to rely on him.

They call him Mr Glass.

I have no idea why he is even considered for a squad place, yes, powerful, yes, strikes fear blah blah blah, if you can't make it through one game in ten, you can't base a game plan on it.

[Slick]

Manu gone before he even came. So to speak

Fucking hell

For avoidance of doubt, not laughing at Tuilagi the poor bastard

[GogLais]

Manu gone before he even came. So to speak

Fucking hell

For avoidance of doubt, not laughing at Tuilagi the poor bastard

Same emotion here, of course we want to beat the best that England has to offer but it’s so predictable.

[Ovals]

Manu gone before he even came. So to speak

Fucking hell

For avoidance of doubt, not laughing at Tuilagi the poor bastard

Same emotion here, of course we want to beat the best that England has to offer but it’s so predictable.

FFS - Well, at least it didn't happen 30 secs into the match - which would have been even worse.

Shame Eddie didn't keep Barbeary in the squad - we could do with him now. Need to find some 'go forward; from somewhere.

[fishfoodie]

Shame Eddie didn't keep Barbeary in the squad - we could do with him now. Need to find some 'go forward; from somewhere.

Wales are starting with Cuthbert; how much, "go forward", do you think you'll need ?

[Crash669]

Manu gone before he even came. So to speak

Almost as if the poor fucker should be given some time playing club rugby to let his body see if it's still up to it before being rushed back into an international set up whose training includes being hit with fucking hammers.

God I hate Eddie Jones.