Six Nations wants Springbokke

[Biffer]

Rugby is driven by money. Springbokke mean big money.

South African currency is worth fuck all. What are you going to trade with, biltong?

You are just as stupid as the Welsch lot. Comparing SA currency with the Springbok trademark is two different things. Compare in your Queens pounds the Springbok value with Italy national rugby team? Hope you get it in your one brain cell.

Touchy

[Kawazaki]

Rugby is driven by money. Springbokke mean big money.

South African currency is worth fuck all. What are you going to trade with, biltong?

Reparations are owed by you lot. Concentration camps, colonialism etc.

You don't translate convincingly as a noble savage.

[_Os_]

This might just hurt Aus and NZ more than Italy.

It's looking that way. There's some irony in this. Despite all the claims some of our Aussie and (much less so) Kiwi friends have made down the years, it wasn't SA rocking the boat the most in that partnership. It was the Aussies and their constant efforts to inject a fully padded out domestic competition into Super Rugby (which encroached on the Currie Cup and meant SA had to react and ask for more SA teams too). The elephant in the room was that unlike NZ and SA there was no Aussie domestic comp and they refused to create one. It was also SA that was the biggest supporter of getting the Pumas into the Tri-Nations and a Super Rugby team.

But all water under the bridge now, in the end they kicked us out of Super Rugby. They didn't care at all what happened to our domestic game after that, they just excluded us then fought like rabid dogs among each other over what to do next. The Aussies have wanted to get rid of us for years, but I think what pushed the Kiwis over the edge was a change in their union leadership (and sale of a private equity stake in their union to Silver Lake), what the new NZ union leadership seem to want to do, is basically what SA is doing but in a much worse timezone than SA is in.

Simply put, if SA rugby was as cutthroat as the Aussies (and now the Kiwis) then all this would've happened decades ago. SA had to be forced into doing this.

From a purely SA point of view, the optimal would be for the Boks to play in the 6N and RC. They're in different windows so logistically it could happen. That's the highest quality rugby and the most lucrative. June and November then become much less relevant for us (probably keep June as they're home matches, and can still schedule tests against whoever wants to come and build some depth). Whatever happens SA will want to keep playing the All Blacks, Pumas, and Wallabies (in that order).

Comparing SA currency with the Springbok trademark is two different things.

Oom is totally correct here. China is or will be the biggest economy on the planet. The Chinese soccer team brand is worth nothing, Argentina's and Brazil's soccer team brand sells out stadiums anywhere they play, the value of their currencies is irrelevant.

I would laugh if Oom's favourite trolling thread came true.

[OomStruisbaai]

Ox I am not trolling with this thread.

Covid changed trolling into reality.

[Torquemada 1420]

This might just hurt Aus and NZ more than Italy.

It's looking that way. There's some irony in this. Despite all the claims some of our Aussie and (much less so) Kiwi friends have made down the years, it wasn't SA rocking the boat the most in that partnership. It was the Aussies and their constant efforts to inject a fully padded out domestic competition into Super Rugby (which encroached on the Currie Cup and meant SA had to react and ask for more SA teams too). The elephant in the room was that unlike NZ and SA there was no Aussie domestic comp and they refused to create one. It was also SA that was the biggest supporter of getting the Pumas into the Tri-Nations and a Super Rugby team.

Funny, in the early days of Soup, I was regularly under fire from Aussies for saying the comp only started because in a pro era, the absence of a credible domestic comp would have killed them. Hence Soup. And early days it was very good: although SA sides were always at an overall disadvantage due to the travel (hence why I opined they would be better in HEC). Also, SA was by FAR the greatest economic factor in both Soup and 3N.

The keewees still have the best domestic comp in the world in NPC, even if they have been gradually strangling it over the years. From where I'm sitting, the Aussies look in deep sh*t.

[OomStruisbaai]

Saffers that can win the 6 Nations.
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Bernard le Roux (France)
Born in Moorreesburg in the Western Cape, Le Roux played for the Boland Cavaliers and Border Bulldogs before moving to Racing in 2009. He qualified for France through World Rugby’s three-year residency law and made his Test debut against the All Blacks in 2013.

Paul Willemse (France)
Born in Pretoria and raised in Namibia, Willemse played for the Namibian U18 side at Craven Week before being offered a junior contract by the Lions, with him moving back to South Africa where he completed his schooling at Monument High School in Krugersdorp.

He spent a season in the Lions’ senior squad before joining the Bulls in 2013. A year later, Willemse signed for Grenoble and later Montpellier. He became eligible for French selection in 2018 based on his three-year residence in the country and would go on to make his Test debut against Wales in the 2019 Six Nations.

Rob Herring (Ireland)
Though born and raised in Cape Town, Herring’s professional career started out at London Irish in 2009, followed by loan spells at Nuneaton and London Welsh. He returned to the Cape after signing with Western Province in 2021, but played only two games before joining Irish club Ulster.

Two years after moving to the country, Herring qualified for Irish selection through one of his grandparents. He made his international debut against Argentina in 2014.

Bradley Roberts (Wales)
Roberts is from Durban and attended Michaelhouse. After school, he moved to Wales to pursue a professional rugby career in 2015. After a few years in amateur leagues, he started playing for Ulster in 2020. He made his international debut for Wales during the 2021 end-of-year Tests, having qualified through his paternal grandmother who was from Llandysul.

Braam Steyn (Italy)
A product of the renowned Paul Roos Gimnasium, Steyn is originally from Cradock in the Eastern Cape. He played two games for the Sharks before moving to Italy. He previously turned out for Mogliano, Calvisano and Zebre. Steyn currently plays for Benetton.

He also qualified for Italy through the residency law and earned his first Test cap in 2016.

Allen Dell (Scotland)
Dell was born in Humansdorp and attended Queen’s College. He earned 11 Currie Cup caps for the Sharks before joining Edinburgh in 2014. Two years later, he was called up to the Scotland Test squad, having qualified for selection via a grandparent.

These days, Dell plies his trade for English club London Irish, but he is still a member of the Scotland Test squad.

Pierre Schoeman (Scotland)
The 27-year-old Schoeman is from Nelspruit, but was schooled at Affies in Pretoria. He worked his way through the Bulls’ junior system before joining the senior squad in 2014. In 2018, he signed for Edinburgh, where he is still playing and last year he became eligible for selection through the residency rule. Schoeman made his Test debut against Tonga in 2021.

Willem Nel (Scotland)
The 35-year-old Nel hails from Loeriesfontein and attended Drostdy. The tighthead prop spent a season each at Western Province and Boland, before joining the Cheetahs for four seasons (2009-12).

He signed for Edinburgh in 2012 and has since amassed well over 150 caps for the Scottish club. Qualifying via residency, Nel made his Test debut for Scotland in 2015 and is still an integral part of their squad.

Kyle Steyn (Scotland)
Steyn is from Johannesburg, where he attended Trinity House. He played for Griquas and was their captain when he was invited to the Scotland sevens team. After shining in the abbreviated format, the Glasgow Warriors offered Steyn a contract and, just as with the national sevens team, he was immediately available for selection through his mother, who is from Glasgow.

Having made his Test debut in 2020, Steyn has since earned three international caps.

Duhan van der Merwe (Scotland)
Van der Merwe, younger brother of Springbok Akker van der Merwe, is from George in the Western Cape. He played for Tuks and the Bulls after school, before signing for French Top 14 side Montpellier. Limited game time, coupled with a spate of injuries, resulted in him moving to Edinburgh in 2017.

He qualified to play for Scotland in 2020 via the residency rule and made his Test debut against Georgia that year. In 2021, he was called up to the British & Irish Lions squad and featured in all three Tests against the Springboks.

[OomStruisbaai]

Go Scotland!

[OomStruisbaai]

France will be hot WC favorites next year. Wide gap between them and the 6 nations rest. Springbokke will give them a go.

[assfly]

I will only join if we play on Saturdays.

Sunday games are for lesser teams.

[handyman]

France will be hot WC favorites next year. Wide gap between them and the 6 nations rest. Springbokke will give them a go.

Not to sure about that. Since when has France played to their potential for a extended period?

[OomStruisbaai]

France will be hot WC favorites next year. Wide gap between them and the 6 nations rest. Springbokke will give them a go.

Not to sure about that. Since when has France played to their potential for a extended period?

France JWC champs now coming through at senior level. Next year at home they will be unbeatable. Here. First.

[handyman]

France will be hot WC favorites next year. Wide gap between them and the 6 nations rest. Springbokke will give them a go.

Not to sure about that. Since when has France played to their potential for a extended period?

France JWC champs now coming through at senior level. Next year at home they will be unbeatable. Here. First.

I think they will manage to find a way to fail. Won't mind if they become a force, always nice to see different teams at the top.

[assfly]

Since when has France played to their potential for a extended period?

That's exactly what is happening right now.

[OomStruisbaai]

Rassie wants us in the 6 nations

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby ... tions.html

Rassie Erasmus has opened up in a world exclusive interview with Sportsmail
The ex-South Africa director of rugby was speaking to Nik Simon in Cape Town
South Africa have reportedly held talks about replacing Italy in the Six Nations
The Springboks are contracted to the Rugby Championship until 2025
Erasmus believes South Africa would be a great addition to the Six Nations
Rassie Erasmus channels his mischievous side as he walks down the picture-perfect Bloubergstrand Beach. ‘Do you think this would be a lekker (Afrikaans for ‘superb’) place to come and visit every other year?’ he quips.

The temperatures are almost 85ºF (30ºC) and the southern Atlantic Ocean is crystal clear.

There is a burning question he has been waiting to answer: does he think South Africa should join the Six Nations?

[Slick]

Morning Oom, it must be Monday

[OomStruisbaai]

Morning Oom, it must be Monday

Goeie More Slick. Struggle to get Sards going. Lots of rugby coming up.

[Yeeb]

Rassie wants us in the 6 nations

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby ... tions.html

Rassie Erasmus has opened up in a world exclusive interview with Sportsmail
The ex-South Africa director of rugby was speaking to Nik Simon in Cape Town
South Africa have reportedly held talks about replacing Italy in the Six Nations
The Springboks are contracted to the Rugby Championship until 2025
Erasmus believes South Africa would be a great addition to the Six Nations
Rassie Erasmus channels his mischievous side as he walks down the picture-perfect Bloubergstrand Beach. ‘Do you think this would be a lekker (Afrikaans for ‘superb’) place to come and visit every other year?’ he quips.

The temperatures are almost 85ºF (30ºC) and the southern Atlantic Ocean is crystal clear.

There is a burning question he has been waiting to answer: does he think South Africa should join the Six Nations?

Would SA play their home games at twickenham ? Be sure to get lots of support there.

[OomStruisbaai]

Rassie wants us in the 6 nations

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby ... tions.html

Rassie Erasmus has opened up in a world exclusive interview with Sportsmail
The ex-South Africa director of rugby was speaking to Nik Simon in Cape Town
South Africa have reportedly held talks about replacing Italy in the Six Nations
The Springboks are contracted to the Rugby Championship until 2025
Erasmus believes South Africa would be a great addition to the Six Nations
Rassie Erasmus channels his mischievous side as he walks down the picture-perfect Bloubergstrand Beach. ‘Do you think this would be a lekker (Afrikaans for ‘superb’) place to come and visit every other year?’ he quips.

The temperatures are almost 85ºF (30ºC) and the southern Atlantic Ocean is crystal clear.

There is a burning question he has been waiting to answer: does he think South Africa should join the Six Nations?

Would SA play their home games at twickenham ? Be sure to get lots of support there.

Nah, at home like the URC.

[Yeeb]

Rassie wants us in the 6 nations

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/rugby ... tions.html

Would SA play their home games at twickenham ? Be sure to get lots of support there.

Nah, at home like the URC.

Then there is no way Sa will join the 6n as hardly any away fans will go. SA would earn more from a share of twickenham tickets, revenue and tv, than if the games were in SA.

[assfly]

Then there is no way Sa will join the 6n as hardly any away fans will go. SA would earn more from a share of twickenham tickets, revenue and tv, than if the games were in SA.

The only way South Africa would accept this is if Twickenham is made their home ground and England move their home games to Sale.

[Chilli]

Then there is no way Sa will join the 6n as hardly any away fans will go. SA would earn more from a share of twickenham tickets, revenue and tv, than if the games were in SA.

The only way South Africa would accept this is if Twickenham is made their home ground and England move their home games to Sale.

Sounds like a plan.

[OomStruisbaai]

[happytramp]

France will be hot WC favorites next year. Wide gap between them and the 6 nations rest. Springbokke will give them a go.

If by wide gap, you mean 6pts at home against Ireland and 4 against a pi$$ weak Wales then, yeah, you're spot on.

[assfly]

We are ready, able and willing.

[sefton]

Then there is no way Sa will join the 6n as hardly any away fans will go. SA would earn more from a share of twickenham tickets, revenue and tv, than if the games were in SA.

The only way South Africa would accept this is if Twickenham is made their home ground and England move their home games to Sale.

That’s me sold.

[average joe]

France will be hot WC favorites next year. Wide gap between them and the 6 nations rest. Springbokke will give them a go.

If by wide gap, you mean 6pts at home against Ireland and 4 against a pi$$ weak Wales then, yeah, you're spot on.

Points only matter to losers.

[JM2K6]

We are ready, able and willing.

Sounds like me in college. Unfortunately, other people have to be interested too. Best of luck!

[OomStruisbaai]

Last weekend of 6 Nations. Springboks would challenge France in Paris. Not sure about England.

[OomStruisbaai]

Paul Willemse

“We know internally how good we are,” Willemse says. “Inside the camp we believe we have the best pack in the world.”

[Slick]

Last weekend of 6 Nations. Springboks would challenge France in Paris. Not sure about England.

Your players don’t drink enough

[OomStruisbaai]

Last weekend of 6 Nations. Springboks would challenge France in Paris. Not sure about England.

Your players don’t drink enough

Yep, you need more EdinBokke in your team.

[happytramp]

We'll stick with Italians lads.... Don't forget to close the door on your way out

[Biffer]

We'll stick with Italians lads.... Don't forget to close the door on your way out

Yep. Much more worthwhile having the azurri in the championship.

[SaintK]

We'll stick with Italians lads.... Don't forget to close the door on your way out

[Chilli]

Maybe keep the Italians, drop the Welsh for the Boks?

[happytramp]

Maybe keep the Italians, drop the Welsh for the Boks?

Now that's an idea worth considering!

[OomStruisbaai]

Maybe keep the Italians, drop the Welsh for the Boks?

We get Wales for 3 tests in July. Wish to get Ireland.

[OomStruisbaai]

U20s to join 6 nations teams in summer series

The pools and fixtures are (SA kick-off times):



Pool A (based at Payanini Center, Verona)

France, Ireland, England, South Africa

Round 1 – 24 June

17h00: Junior Boks v England

20h00: France v Ireland

Round 2 – 29 June

17h00: France v England

20h00: Junior Boks v Ireland

Round 3 – 5 July

17h00: Junior Boks v France

20h00: Ireland v England



Pool B (based at Stadio Di Monigo, Treviso)

Scotland, Wales, Italy, Georgia

Round 1 – 25 June

17h00: Scotland v Wales

20h00: Italy v Georgia

Round 2 – 30 June

17h00: Wales v Georgia

20h00: Scotland v Italy

Round 3 – 6 July

17h00: Scotland v Georgia

20h00: Italy v Wales



Cross-pool playoffs – 12 July (proposed kick-off times):

12h30: Match 1 (4th Pool A vs 4th Pool B)

15h00: Match 2 (3rd Pool A vs 3rd Pool B)

17h30: Match 3 (2nd Pool A vs 2nd Pool B)

20h00: Match 4 (1st Pool A vs 1st Pool B)

[GogLais]

They can sod off. If the worst happens will there be a trophy for the best placed European team?

[OomStruisbaai]

SA Bokkies well prepared.

Building up to the preparations for the forthcoming Summer Series in Italy, the SA Rugby Academy programme has been in full swing in Stellenbosch since 19 April, where a squad of 36 players is based at the Stellenbosch Academy of Sport (SAS).