European cup w/c 15th April thread

[Torquemada 1420]

Fre side in "can't catch a high ball" surprise.

[sockwithaticket]

Yellow card for that.

Yes. Quite an obvious one tbh.

Was in its arse. Nothing malicious about it. Accidental and should have been a penalty only.

Ah, so you have missed a lot of modern day reffing, because none of what you've put there actually matters.

[sockwithaticket]

That's not going on Dupont's highlight reel. Such an unnecessary offload.

[Torquemada 1420]

Bye bye Toulouse. If you can't keep 15 men on the pitch for more than 10 minutes a game, life gets tough.

[Torquemada 1420]

That's not going on Dupont's highlight reel. Such an unnecessary offload.

He did that last week when Cros (I think) was down and so they were playing with 13.

[Mr Tim Buktoo]

And another nothing yellow card. The game has gone soft. Ridiculous.

You might want to have a look at the Steve Thompson thread before commenting further.

And both of those offences have been text book yellow cards for ages.

Nope. There has to be common sense. If the toulose lad had landed the ulster player on his head/neck then of course but it was a tame lift of the legs and the ulster player landed on his back. No issue. Farcical. Its like tackling someone by the hips and landing them on their back. No penalty then is there?
It should only be a card if the player is landed on this head/neck/shoulders with force.
I dont think ive seen such a tame example of both those offences in a long time.

[sockwithaticket]

That's not going on Dupont's highlight reel. Such an unnecessary offload.

He did that last week when Cros (I think) was down and so they were playing with 13.

Do you reckon he's trying to do too much due to so often needing to be the creative spark for the team?

[Torquemada 1420]

And another nothing yellow card. The game has gone soft. Ridiculous.

You might want to have a look at the Steve Thompson thread before commenting further.

And both of those offences have been text book yellow cards for ages.

Nope. There has to be common sense. If the toulose lad had landed the ulster player on his head/neck then of course but it was a tame lift of the legs and the ulster player landed on his back. No issue. Farcical. Its like tackling someone by the hips and landing them on their back. No penalty then is there?
It should only be a card if the player is landed on this head/neck/shoulders with force.
I dont think ive seen such a tame example of both those offences in a long time.

The issue here is he's not meant to be lifting the player at all. If Delibes is too thick to understand that, he should find another career.

[sockwithaticket]

And another nothing yellow card. The game has gone soft. Ridiculous.

You might want to have a look at the Steve Thompson thread before commenting further.

And both of those offences have been text book yellow cards for ages.

Nope. There has to be common sense. If the toulose lad had landed the ulster player on his head/neck then of course but it was a tame lift of the legs and the ulster player landed on his back. No issue. Farcical. Its like tackling someone by the hips and landing them on their back. No penalty then is there?
It should only be a card if the player is landed on this head/neck/shoulders with force.
I dont think ive seen such a tame example of both those offences in a long time.

Landing on head or neck from being taken in the air has been a red for ages. Putting a playing through the horizontal has been an automatic yellow for ages and a red where it causes someone to land on their head or neck.

[Torquemada 1420]

That's not going on Dupont's highlight reel. Such an unnecessary offload.

He did that last week when Cros (I think) was down and so they were playing with 13.

Do you reckon he's trying to do too much due to so often needing to be the creative spark for the team?

Absolutely. Go back to the game v a 3rd string Cardiff where he effectively had to win the game single handed. It's been like that much of this season with Toulouse. Dupont plays well, they have a chance. Dupont plays below par, they lose. Dupont doesn't play, they are rubbish.

[Torquemada 1420]

I think without Cros, Baille and Marchand, this was already a reach too far for Toulouse even if they had some kind of form.

{EDIT} To add to Holmes, Chocobares, Tolofua, Guitoune, Placines & Tekori

[fishfoodie]

Last pass looked a bit forward

[sockwithaticket]

Now that was nicely worked after the intial mess around the ruck. A bit more of it and we've got a game on.

[Torquemada 1420]

FM, did Ntamack just attack the line

And 1st support player is......

[Torquemada 1420]

Suicide is painless

[Kawazaki]

Can't believe how far Dupont kicks the ball. 50m easily off one step.

[Torquemada 1420]

F**k off Carney, that's a clear knock on by Ulster.

[sockwithaticket]

Carley is usually a massive stickler for the laws, but from that seeming Ulster knock on onwards it's like he came over all French and it was anything goes at the breakdown.

[Torquemada 1420]

Oh. He sees THAT knock on

[geordie_6]

I don't see the point in splitting hairs over whether he hit the shoulder a millisecond before hitting him in the head. A very big bloke decided to smash someone without bothering to bend and drop the tackle height, and hit him hard in the head. Should always be a red.

What pisses me off with the ex pros on comms is the "in the current climate" line that they trot out every time, or "rugby incident".

Go have a chat with your mate Steve Thompson, who seemingly struggles to remember his eldest daughters name at times, and get an understanding why we need to change...

[Tichtheid]

oooh nice

[Tichtheid]

Stevie Ferris is quite pleased, I think

[Torquemada 1420]

That is abject by Ramos. It was a poor kick and he still screws it up.

[bogbunny]

Yesssssssd

[sockwithaticket]

Toulouse every right to be annoyed with that. Intentional or not, Mauvaka ended up being tripped by an ulster player lying on the ground.

[Kawazaki]

Ulster player touched that knocked on ball before the offside player played it.

[fishfoodie]

Ulster really need a decent OH, to match the level of talent they have across the rest of the backs

[Torquemada 1420]

Toulouse every right to be annoyed with that. Intentional or not, Mauvaka ended up being tripped by an ulster player lying on the ground.

It's Carley. No Fre side is getting anything.

[Torquemada 1420]

Where TF was any of the backrow at that breakdown?

[Kawazaki]

That penalty against Toulouse was bullshit, tackler was actually still holding him on the ground when he got penalised!

[Torquemada 1420]

That HAS to be red.

Watch Carley walk Ulster out of this one.

[sockwithaticket]

That flies in the face of many rulings on incidents like that from the past. Lowry gets off the ground after Ramos and cards have been issued for that.

[ASMO]

How the fuck was that not a card?

[Torquemada 1420]

That HAS to be red.

Watch Carley walk Ulster out of this one.

Seriously. F**k off you bent c**t.

[sockwithaticket]

That's double shoulders into the face.

[Torquemada 1420]

Let's see Carley get BOTH Ulster players off this one

[ASMO]

He bottled that, they both should have gone

[Tichtheid]

He bottled that, they both should have gone

That would be very unusual but it would have been correct in that instance

[Torquemada 1420]

He bottled that, they both should have gone

Should be playing with 12 but this bent ref was never going to let that happen.

[sockwithaticket]

He bottled that, they both should have gone

Absolutely. He's doing some job of justifying Ulster 2. He was going in with a shoulder and not attempting a wrap anyway, which should be a yellow, that hit the head after almost no height change.