President Biden and US politics catchall

[Hugo]

Was just reading about how USCIS is going to massively hike fees for naturalization - from circa $600 to $1,200. Trump admin says the increases are necessary because USCIS is in financial trouble. The left say it is another example of Trump's anti immigrant stance since such a massive increase will dissuade many people from applying to become citizens.

TBF, that's pretty cheap compared to Oz

Interesting, how much more expensive would you say? Doesn't Australia operate one of the most stringent immigration policies in the world?

[mat the expat]

It was over AU$2500 for Residency when I did mine and roughly the same for Citizenship.

I've heard it's at least double now.

It is hard but if you qualify, straightforward.

Luckily for me, I wasn't a refugee......

[Rhubarb & Custard]

So what can we expect from the convention this week.

I guess there’s a priority to show that Biden has all his faculties and plenty of energy. And that Harris is all lined up after criticizing him in the primaries. United front from across the party in general I suppose

What else? Do they actually talk policy at these things?

If the convention was still open there'd be delegates pushing their angle, but as is it's about introducing Biden to the American voters as a presidential candidate. Right now America doesn't like Trump, and people think Biden is okay, it just doesn't seem to have occurred to a lot of people voting Biden is an especially useful thing to do.

So one assumes they'll not talk much about Trump, or at least not directly. That Biden will talk in terms of values, principally normalcy and decency, and he might introduce some of his policies thrashed out with Bernie but he's not going to jump up and down about a move to the left.

The bar is low for Joe, nobody on the Democratic side seems a big fan, and Trump refers to him as Sleepy Joe or senile, so if Biden manages to trip over said low bar he'll pretty much be judged to have cleared the hurdle.

[Sandstorm]

It was over AU$2500 for Residency when I did mine and roughly the same for Citizenship.

I've heard it's at least double now.

It is hard but if you qualify, straightforward.

Luckily for me, I wasn't a refugee......

It's around £3000 in the UK these days. Fail the English language exam and add another £750 for a re-take.

[convoluted]

While Biden refuses to take any probing questions (and Harris too since her appointment), Trump has endured four years of literally hundreds of hostile questions from the press.
Each interrogator aches to be the one that nails the prez; the one to be the exalted hero/heroine of the Left.
So it was with the question to him about Harris’ non-eligibility, referred to above by half a dozen on here. The actuality is that in his answer Trump made it clear that he did not know if that was the case, then he continued by stating that he would be surprised if it was true as “the Democrats would have checked that out.”
Of course that end-clarification by the president got dropped in the MSM coverage: the typical “Let’s frame a hit on Trump by withholding his full statement because we know a whole bunch of utter fcekwits out there will not only swallow this nonsense but will then regurgitate it as fact on forums”, and, look-see, they did indeed.
And this MSM deceit works every time; every single freeking time; 4 years straight, dozens of fake anti-Trump 'bombshells', and yet the same useful idiot stooges still can’t work out that they are being played.

Apparently the same fellas are currently chaining themselves to mailboxes
to try to ensure that "Joe Biden's husband" gets the presidency. Ha ha, just heard that latest Bidentia blooper this very moment on the DNC live broadcast. I will swear he said Joe, not Jill.

[Guy Smiley]

Interesting

[Carter's Choice]

While Biden refuses to take any probing questions (and Harris too since her appointment), Trump has endured four years of literally hundreds of hostile questions from the press.
Each interrogator aches to be the one that nails the prez; the one to be the exalted hero/heroine of the Left.
So it was with the question to him about Harris’ non-eligibility, referred to above by half a dozen on here. The actuality is that in his answer Trump made it clear that he did not know if that was the case, then he continued by stating that he would be surprised if it was true as “the Democrats would have checked that out.”
Of course that end-clarification by the president got dropped in the MSM coverage: the typical “Let’s frame a hit on Trump by withholding his full statement because we know a whole bunch of utter fcekwits out there will not only swallow this nonsense but will then regurgitate it as fact on forums”, and, look-see, they did indeed.
And this MSM deceit works every time; every single freeking time; 4 years straight, dozens of fake anti-Trump 'bombshells', and yet the same useful idiot stooges still can’t work out that they are being played.

Apparently the same fellas are currently chaining themselves to mailboxes
to try to ensure that "Joe Biden's husband" gets the presidency. Ha ha, just heard that latest Bidentia blooper this very moment on the DNC live broadcast. I will swear he said Joe, not Jill.

I find it intriguing that 100% of your posts on the NPR Rugby forum have been made on this thread, praising Donald Trump. Anyone would think you're not a genuine Rugby fan, and more of a troll?

[Caley_Red]

While Biden refuses to take any probing questions (and Harris too since her appointment), Trump has endured four years of literally hundreds of hostile questions from the press.
Each interrogator aches to be the one that nails the prez; the one to be the exalted hero/heroine of the Left.
So it was with the question to him about Harris’ non-eligibility, referred to above by half a dozen on here. The actuality is that in his answer Trump made it clear that he did not know if that was the case, then he continued by stating that he would be surprised if it was true as “the Democrats would have checked that out.”
Of course that end-clarification by the president got dropped in the MSM coverage: the typical “Let’s frame a hit on Trump by withholding his full statement because we know a whole bunch of utter fcekwits out there will not only swallow this nonsense but will then regurgitate it as fact on forums”, and, look-see, they did indeed.
And this MSM deceit works every time; every single freeking time; 4 years straight, dozens of fake anti-Trump 'bombshells', and yet the same useful idiot stooges still can’t work out that they are being played.

Apparently the same fellas are currently chaining themselves to mailboxes
to try to ensure that "Joe Biden's husband" gets the presidency. Ha ha, just heard that latest Bidentia blooper this very moment on the DNC live broadcast. I will swear he said Joe, not Jill.

I find it intriguing that 100% of your posts on the NPR Rugby forum have been made on this thread, praising Donald Trump. Anyone would think you're not a genuine Rugby fan, and more of a troll?

To be fair, there are loads of posters who never post about rugby, too exercised by the US Politics and Brexit threads usually.

[Carter's Choice]

To be fair, there are loads of posters who never post about rugby, too exercised by the US Politics and Brexit threads usually.

Name five.

[Caley_Red]

To be fair, there are loads of posters who never post about rugby, too exercised by the US Politics and Brexit threads usually.

Name five.

I should change my wording to "c90% of posts" as I couldn't possibly have read everything they posted.

I don't want to be going down the road of naming these people as I don't think it's particularly high-minded and, in any case, I'm sure someone would be able to pull up an example where they posted regularly about rugby in the past. I only joined the old board in summer 2018 so I didn't know the PR world before tedious obsessions with all things Brexit, Trump, Culture Wars etc would have come to the fore (given that they're fairly recent phenomena).

My point on the above being, mass non-rugby posters are hardly without precedence.

[Carter's Choice]

To be fair, there are loads of posters who never post about rugby, too exercised by the US Politics and Brexit threads usually.

Name five.

I should change my wording to "c90% of posts" as I couldn't possibly have read everything they posted.

I don't want to be going down the road of naming these people as I don't think it's particularly high-minded and, in any case, I'm sure someone would be able to pull up an example where they posted regularly about rugby in the past. I only joined the old board in summer 2018 so I didn't know the PR world before tedious obsessions with all things Brexit, Trump, Culture Wars etc would have come to the fore (given that they're fairly recent phenomena).

My point on the above being, mass non-rugby posters are hardly without precedence.

I never once saw a poster on PR who had never made a single post about Rugby. The poster I quoted above has made 100% of his posts on this Trump thread. With respect, I don't think it's normal to join a Rugby thread simply to troll moderates/liberals on a political thread.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

To be fair, there are loads of posters who never post about rugby, too exercised by the US Politics and Brexit threads usually.

Name five.

I should change my wording to "c90% of posts" as I couldn't possibly have read everything they posted.

I don't want to be going down the road of naming these people as I don't think it's particularly high-minded and, in any case, I'm sure someone would be able to pull up an example where they posted regularly about rugby in the past. I only joined the old board in summer 2018 so I didn't know the PR world before tedious obsessions with all things Brexit, Trump, Culture Wars etc would have come to the fore (given that they're fairly recent phenomena).

My point on the above being, mass non-rugby posters are hardly without precedence.

Precedent?

[Caley_Red]

Name five.

I should change my wording to "c90% of posts" as I couldn't possibly have read everything they posted.

I don't want to be going down the road of naming these people as I don't think it's particularly high-minded and, in any case, I'm sure someone would be able to pull up an example where they posted regularly about rugby in the past. I only joined the old board in summer 2018 so I didn't know the PR world before tedious obsessions with all things Brexit, Trump, Culture Wars etc would have come to the fore (given that they're fairly recent phenomena).

My point on the above being, mass non-rugby posters are hardly without precedence.

Precedent?

Yes

[Hong Kong]

[Sinkers]

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53853297

Couldn’t make it up. Just perfect - all the best people and all that!!

[EnergiseR]

My wife is going to think I am a genius. I said to her last week that Bannon would get arrested soon

[Sinkers]

Defrauding the build the wall fund of all things.

When are the supporters going to realize that they’re being mugged off.

[Hal Jordan]

In fairness, Trump barely knew the guy, although no doubt he wishes him well.

[ScarfaceClaw]

In fairness, Trump barely knew the guy, although no doubt he wishes him well.

But will still pardon him the week after his conviction.

[.OverThere]

In fairness, Trump barely knew the guy, although no doubt he wishes him well.

Trump did though employ him as "one of the best people".
If he did not "know" Bannon, then that does not exactly throw a good light on the situation.

[Hal Jordan]

Trump would disavow his own children (maybe one exception) to try and distance himself from trouble, like Paulie to Henry in Goodfellas.

[sockwithaticket]

In fairness, Trump barely knew the guy, although no doubt he wishes him well.

Trump did though employ him as "one of the best people".
If he did not "know" Bannon, then that does not exactly throw a good light on the situation.

The number of people Trump has emlpoyed and been photographedor recorded interacting with, yet whom he apparently doesn't know can either be taken as evidence that he's a compulsive liar or cognitively unfit for office.

[Biffer]

Recording of numbers to go back to the CDC because the Whitehouse is making an arse of it.

[Sandstorm]

Recording of numbers to go back to the CDC because the Whitehouse is making an arse of it.

Shock. Horror.

[Hong Kong]

[Kiwias]

[Carter's Choice]

Whilst that twitter interaction is amusing, Trump's deliberate and targeted attacks on the American electoral and voting system, are extremely worrying. I have never before seen an American President behave in such away. America's democracy is at risk. Trump supporters are so blinded by partisan loyalty and ideology that they seem happy for their President to attack their structures of democracy on a daily basis.

[Hugo]

One of the things I've wondered of late is whether twitter itself deserves its fair share of criticism for the Trump presidency. In other words does Trump even get elected without a twitter account?

It has provided the celebrities of the world a huge platform for sharing their unfiltered opinions to an audience of millions of followers. Whereas in generations past a celebrity might give an interview every couple of years to coincide with a new album or film release nowadays celebrities can air their opinions 24/7 on social media.

[Uncle fester]

Whilst that twitter interaction is amusing, Trump's deliberate and targeted attacks on the American electoral and voting system, are extremely worrying. I have never before seen an American President behave in such away. America's democracy is at risk. Trump supporters are so blinded by partisan loyalty and ideology that they seem happy for their President to attack their structures of democracy on a daily basis.

Unless they pull back, this is going to go the way of the Spanish civil war. More numerous liberals are going to be defeated by fanatical alt-rightists who are armed to the teeth. State (and army) likely to be crippled by the political deadlock.

[Marylandolorian]

Whilst that twitter interaction is amusing, Trump's deliberate and targeted attacks on the American electoral and voting system, are extremely worrying. I have never before seen an American President behave in such away. America's democracy is at risk. Trump supporters are so blinded by partisan loyalty and ideology that they seem happy for their President to attack their structures of democracy on a daily basis.

Unless they pull back, this is going to go the way of the Spanish civil war. More numerous liberals are going to be defeated by fanatical alt-rightists who are armed to the teeth. State (and army) likely to be crippled by the political deadlock.

You have a point . Yesterday he said " I'm the only thing between keeping the democracy and anarchy and chaos"
I don't think he was talking about BLM.

[fishfoodie]

the shit stain strikes again.

No tweets about his best buddy Vlad poisoning a political opponent; & denying him proper treatment; instead he attacks another Federal Agency, the FDA.

https://www.bbc.com/news/live/world-538 ... type=share

[sockwithaticket]

He's also spitting his dummy, advocating a boycott against Goodyear (an American, America based manufacturer employing thousands) because they won't allow employees to wear MAGA gear (which is part of a wider ban on political items of clothing).

[Rhubarb & Custard]

He's also spitting his dummy, advocating a boycott against Goodyear (an American, America based manufacturer employing thousands) because they won't allow employees to wear MAGA gear (which is part of a wider ban on political items of clothing).

It's not just they're not allowing MAGA, it's that they are allowing BLM. Still it's odd that he'd attack a big employer in a swing state, it's already being run against him in attack ads. He could have just been a normal person and not whined for no reason

[sockwithaticket]

He's also spitting his dummy, advocating a boycott against Goodyear (an American, America based manufacturer employing thousands) because they won't allow employees to wear MAGA gear (which is part of a wider ban on political items of clothing).

It's not just they're not allowing MAGA, it's that they are allowing BLM. Still it's odd that he'd attack a big employer in a swing state, it's already being run against him in attack ads. He could have just been a normal person and not whined for no reason

While there is certainly a political and organisational element to BLM, the specific words black lives matter and being anti-racist really shouldn't be classified as a political stance.

But, yes, it never ceases to astound me how thin his skin is and how easily provoked he is; it ought to irreovocably damage him and yet Channel 4 were talking to a lifelong democrat (so he claimed) who voted Trump in 2016 and now can't envision voting for anyone else ever, so what the fuck do any of us know.

[Zig]

One of the things I've wondered of late is whether twitter itself deserves its fair share of criticism for the Trump presidency. In other words does Trump even get elected without a twitter account?

It has provided the celebrities of the world a huge platform for sharing their unfiltered opinions to an audience of millions of followers. Whereas in generations past a celebrity might give an interview every couple of years to coincide with a new album or film release nowadays celebrities can air their opinions 24/7 on social media.

Social media was used very effectively by Barrack Obama too but it has become a medium for absolute lies and dangerous conspiracy theories to enter public discourse.
Take a look at what Bimbo is doing on the Covid thread and multiply it exponentially.
It doesn't take many trolls to completely sabotage essential public information.

[fishfoodie]

He's also spitting his dummy, advocating a boycott against Goodyear (an American, America based manufacturer employing thousands) because they won't allow employees to wear MAGA gear (which is part of a wider ban on political items of clothing).

It's not just they're not allowing MAGA, it's that they are allowing BLM. Still it's odd that he'd attack a big employer in a swing state, it's already being run against him in attack ads. He could have just been a normal person and not whined for no reason

While there is certainly a political and organisational element to BLM, the specific words black lives matter and being anti-racist really shouldn't be classified as a political stance.

But, yes, it never ceases to astound me how thin his skin is and how easily provoked he is; it ought to irreovocably damage him and yet Channel 4 were talking to a lifelong democrat (so he claimed) who voted Trump in 2016 and now can't envision voting for anyone else ever, so what the fuck do any of us know.

I'm always a bit suspicious of these characters. It's like the bimbot claiming he voted to remain, & only changed his mind when he saw how beastly the remainers were.

If a "Democrat" voted for Trump; they clearly missed the Parties philosophy for their entire lives, & just voted for the orange sex offender, because they hated Hillary. Now they're in too deep, & won't admit what a horrible mistake they've made.

[sockwithaticket]

It's not just they're not allowing MAGA, it's that they are allowing BLM. Still it's odd that he'd attack a big employer in a swing state, it's already being run against him in attack ads. He could have just been a normal person and not whined for no reason

While there is certainly a political and organisational element to BLM, the specific words black lives matter and being anti-racist really shouldn't be classified as a political stance.

But, yes, it never ceases to astound me how thin his skin is and how easily provoked he is; it ought to irreovocably damage him and yet Channel 4 were talking to a lifelong democrat (so he claimed) who voted Trump in 2016 and now can't envision voting for anyone else ever, so what the fuck do any of us know.

I'm always a bit suspicious of these characters. It's like the bimbot claiming he voted to remain, & only changed his mind when he saw how beastly the remainers were.

If a "Democrat" voted for Trump; they clearly missed the Parties philosophy for their entire lives, & just voted for the orange sex offender, because they hated Hillary. Now they're in too deep, & won't admit what a horrible mistake they've made.

That did cross my mind. He kept insisting they'd gone too far to the left and didn't believe they'd ever return back. It is a bit like, they did? How far to the right are you that this fairly centrist program from Biden seems far left? Why were you voting for them in the past instead of the Republicans?

[obelixtim]

Now claiming a vaccine against covid is being delayed by the FDA deep state till after the election, to hurt his chances.

[Hong Kong]

Now claiming a vaccine against covid is being delayed by the FDA deep state till after the election, to hurt his chances.

Without a shred of evidence...who’d have thunk it?

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Now claiming a vaccine against covid is being delayed by the FDA deep state till after the election, to hurt his chances.

Without a shred of evidence...who’d have thunk it?

what a pathetic whining pissant. he just cannot wrap his head around the idea the pandemic isn't about him, not even closing in on 200,000 deaths