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[Slick]

Although I'm beginning to accept it might not happen, I just want to see Huw Jones back to his best.

From social media it seems a lot of Quins fans very sad to see him go after a slow start. I's want him in and around my Scotland team if he is anywhere near his best

[SaintK]

Although I'm beginning to accept it might not happen, I just want to see Huw Jones back to his best.

From social media it seems a lot of Quins fans very sad to see him go after a slow start. I's want him in and around my Scotland team if he is anywhere near his best

He has been playing extremel;y well since covering at full back for the injured Tyrone Green. Better than when he was trying to win a starting place at centre.

[robmatic]

Although I'm beginning to accept it might not happen, I just want to see Huw Jones back to his best.

From social media it seems a lot of Quins fans very sad to see him go after a slow start. I's want him in and around my Scotland team if he is anywhere near his best

He has been playing extremel;y well since covering at full back for the injured Tyrone Green. Better than when he was trying to win a starting place at centre.

It will be interesting to see where he slots in when he's back at Glasgow, McKay is a solid fullback but can also play wing and Steyn & Tuipulotu have been played at 13 but can also play elsewhere.

[Yr Alban]

Huw Jones isn’t going to displace Hogg for Scotland, no. But we aren’t blessed with a lot of cover at 15, whereas we have more options at 13. Plus Hogg will (I assume) be given the summer off, so we need to play someone there. Ollie Smith is a talent but I’m not sure he is ready just yet.

[weegie01]

Has anyone seen any reports on the crowd size for the 1872? I just looked at the ticket site of curiosity and it looks like a very big crowd.

[Tichtheid]

Has anyone seen any reports on the crowd size for the 1872? I just looked at the ticket site of curiosity and it looks like a very big crowd.

I think they block out out sections of the stadium for sales until demand means they have to open them up.

It just means it looks like the top tiers all the around are sold out

I’m guessing the crowd will be around the mid twenty mark

Annoyingly, I’ll be in Edinburgh on Sunday, a day late and a dollar short, as they say

[Biffer]

Has anyone seen any reports on the crowd size for the 1872? I just looked at the ticket site of curiosity and it looks like a very big crowd.

I think they block out out sections of the stadium for sales until demand means they have to open them up.

It just means it looks like the top tiers all the around are sold out

I’m guessing the crowd will be around the mid twenty mark

Annoyingly, I’ll be in Edinburgh on Sunday, a day late and a dollar short, as they say

East stand is not far off sold out, it holds 12k so say about10k sold there. Five sections in lower north and lower south well sold, so that’ll be 5-6k. Four sections sold out in the middle of the west and four other sections there with quite a bit sold. Probably another 6-7k? So I think they’ve sold maybe 22k so far.

[weegie01]

Has anyone seen any reports on the crowd size for the 1872? I just looked at the ticket site of curiosity and it looks like a very big crowd.

I think they block out out sections of the stadium for sales until demand means they have to open them up.

It just means it looks like the top tiers all the around are sold out

I’m guessing the crowd will be around the mid twenty mark

Annoyingly, I’ll be in Edinburgh on Sunday, a day late and a dollar short, as they say

East stand is not far off sold out, it holds 12k so say about10k sold there. Five sections in lower north and lower south well sold, so that’ll be 5-6k. Four sections sold out in the middle of the west and four other sections there with quite a bit sold. Probably another 6-7k? So I think they’ve sold maybe 22k so far.

I thought it looked a bit more than that. The record is just shy of 28k, which I think is safe.

I looked as I thought I had seen very little promoting the game. I have just specifically looked on social media, and found there is actually quite a lot, which have just passed me by as background noise.

Since moving to the Dam, the Edinburgh support seem to have found their voice. I don't think they are louder just because it is a smaller space, I think they are louder as they are actually making more noise. It will be interesting to see if that transfers back to the main stadium.

[robmatic]

Huw Jones isn’t going to displace Hogg for Scotland, no. But we aren’t blessed with a lot of cover at 15, whereas we have more options at 13. Plus Hogg will (I assume) be given the summer off, so we need to play someone there. Ollie Smith is a talent but I’m not sure he is ready just yet.

If he's going well at Harlequins at 15, you would think he would be the front runner this summer if Hogg is getting a rest and if Maitland is out of favour.

I wonder if Jaco's recent run at fullback puts him in contention for a touring place as well.

[C T]

Although I'm beginning to accept it might not happen, I just want to see Huw Jones back to his best.

From social media it seems a lot of Quins fans very sad to see him go after a slow start. I's want him in and around my Scotland team if he is anywhere near his best

He has been playing extremel;y well since covering at full back for the injured Tyrone Green. Better than when he was trying to win a starting place at centre.

That's good to hear. I was working from my out of date view that he was going a bit crap.

I can get back to my usual ridiculously optimistic again!

[westport]

Chris Dean today signed a contract extension

[Yr Alban]

Has anyone seen any reports on the crowd size for the 1872? I just looked at the ticket site of curiosity and it looks like a very big crowd.

I think they block out out sections of the stadium for sales until demand means they have to open them up.

It just means it looks like the top tiers all the around are sold out

I’m guessing the crowd will be around the mid twenty mark

Annoyingly, I’ll be in Edinburgh on Sunday, a day late and a dollar short, as they say

Yeah, this weekend is the only one in a four-week period where I won’t be in Edinburgh. (We just bought a flat in Dalry - so hoping to be available for a cabal in the future!)

Our 20-year anniversary was yesterday, so we’re going somewhere posh down near Bala for the night on Saturday. Which is also going to mean I miss the Scottish Cup Final…

[Slick]

Has anyone seen any reports on the crowd size for the 1872? I just looked at the ticket site of curiosity and it looks like a very big crowd.

I think they block out out sections of the stadium for sales until demand means they have to open them up.

It just means it looks like the top tiers all the around are sold out

I’m guessing the crowd will be around the mid twenty mark

Annoyingly, I’ll be in Edinburgh on Sunday, a day late and a dollar short, as they say

Yeah, this weekend is the only one in a four-week period where I won’t be in Edinburgh. (We just bought a flat in Dalry - so hoping to be available for a cabal in the future!)

Our 20-year anniversary was yesterday, so we’re going somewhere posh down near Bala for the night on Saturday. Which is also going to mean I miss the Scottish Cup Final…

Very exciting. How much time are you planning to spend in Edinburgh?

You can take over trying to get these plums to cabal

[westport]

Edinburgh Rugby team to face Glasgow Warriors at BT Murrayfield in the United Rugby Championship
Saturday 21 May (kick-off 6.30pm) – live on Premier Sports

15. Emiliano Boffelli (16)

14. Darcy Graham (48)
13. Mark Bennett (69)
12. Chris Dean (119)
11. Damien Hoyland (92)

10. Blair Kinghorn (117) VICE-CAPTAIN
9. Ben Vellacott (20)

1. Pierre Schoeman (81)
2. Dave Cherry (55) VICE-CAPTAIN
3. WP Nel (169)
4. Jamie Hodgson (39)
5. Grant Gilchrist (173) CAPTAIN
6. Luke Crosbie (67)
7. Hamish Watson (129)
8. Magnus Bradbury (111)

Replacements

16. Adam McBurney (12)
17. Harrison Courtney (8)
18. Lee-Roy Atalifo (25)
19. Marshall Sykes (21)
20. Ben Muncaster (14)
21. Henry Pyrgos (68)
22. Jaco van der Walt (87)
23. James Lang (17)

Unavailable: Luan de Bruin, Nick Haining, Henry Immelman, Viliame Mata, Stuart McInally, Ramiro Moyano, Jamie Ritchie, Ben Toolis, Boan Venter, Angus Williams, Glen Young

[westport]

Glasgow Warriors team to face Edinburgh at BT Murrayfield, Saturday 21 May, kick-off 6.30pm, live on Premier Sports 1. You can also follow all the action in our Live Match Centre at glasgowwarriors.org.

1. Jamie Bhatti (65)
2. George Turner (75)
3. Zander Fagerson (113)
4. Rob Harley (265)
5. Richie Gray (81)
6. Ryan Wilson (C) (211)
7. Thomas Gordon (50)
8. Jack Dempsey (20)

9. Ali Price (109)
10. Ross Thompson (35)
11. Rufus McLean (19)
12. Sam Johnson (91)
13. Sione Tuipulotu (18)
14. Josh McKay (13)
15. Ollie Smith (18)

16. Johnny Matthews (29)
17. Nathan McBeth (5)
18. Simon Berghan (11)
19. Kiran McDonald (53)
20. Gregor Brown (3)
21. Jamie Dobie (36)
22. Domingo Miotti (4)
23. Stafford McDowall (37)

Unavailable for selection: Fraser Brown, Sebastian Cancelliere, Scott Cummings, Rory Darge, Matt Fagerson, Oli Kebble, Ally Miller, Kyle Steyn, Duncan Weir.

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[mos_eisely_]

Line ups for the 1872



Tough to call but I think Edinburgh will edge it

[Slick]

What is George Horne doing playing for Boroughmuir?

Harry Mercer the stand off looks decent

[mos_eisely_]

What is George Horne doing playing for Boroughmuir?

Harry Mercer the stand off looks decent

Getting some needed game time before the summer tour

[Yr Alban]

I think they block out out sections of the stadium for sales until demand means they have to open them up.

It just means it looks like the top tiers all the around are sold out

I’m guessing the crowd will be around the mid twenty mark

Annoyingly, I’ll be in Edinburgh on Sunday, a day late and a dollar short, as they say

Yeah, this weekend is the only one in a four-week period where I won’t be in Edinburgh. (We just bought a flat in Dalry - so hoping to be available for a cabal in the future!)

Our 20-year anniversary was yesterday, so we’re going somewhere posh down near Bala for the night on Saturday. Which is also going to mean I miss the Scottish Cup Final…

Very exciting. How much time are you planning to spend in Edinburgh?

You can take over trying to get these plums to cabal

Our plan is a weekend a month (plus a week here and there). We’ll see how well that goes!

[KingBlairhorn]

Given how shite Glasgow are in the final 30 of each game, this doesn’t bode well for them.

[I like neeps]

Chris Dean surely must be capped this summer. He's been sensational lately.

Won't miss watching Harley give away stupid penalties every week next season.

[Slick]

Chris Dean surely must be capped this summer. He's been sensational lately.

Won't miss watching Harley give away stupid penalties every week next season.

Yes, he’s been superb, everything he does has a touch of class.

Ollie Smith looks potentially heir apparent at 15. Also amazing how much Darcy can influence a game from the wing.

Hope it’s just an off season but Mish looking like he is starting a slow decline at the moment

[I like neeps]

Chris Dean surely must be capped this summer. He's been sensational lately.

Won't miss watching Harley give away stupid penalties every week next season.

Yes, he’s been superb, everything he does has a touch of class.

Ollie Smith looks potentially heir apparent at 15. Also amazing how much Darcy can influence a game from the wing.

Hope it’s just an off season but Mish looking like he is starting a slow decline at the moment

Problem Smith has is Huw Jones is also very good at 15 and returning to Glasgow. Will be hard for gametime.

I think Watson is showing that it was a lions year. Price and Fagerson both haven't had good seasons either. Let's see where they are post summer off. Crosbie made a timely return to form and Gordon really played well.

[KingBlairhorn]

I really can’t see how the SRU can let Wilson continue. With the squad they have they must be better than this. They are utterly rudderless.

[Slick]

Chris Dean surely must be capped this summer. He's been sensational lately.

Won't miss watching Harley give away stupid penalties every week next season.

Yes, he’s been superb, everything he does has a touch of class.

Ollie Smith looks potentially heir apparent at 15. Also amazing how much Darcy can influence a game from the wing.

Hope it’s just an off season but Mish looking like he is starting a slow decline at the moment

Problem Smith has is Huw Jones is also very good at 15 and returning to Glasgow. Will be hard for gametime.

I think Watson is showing that it was a lions year. Price and Fagerson both haven't had good seasons either. Let's see where they are post summer off. Crosbie made a timely return to form and Gordon really played well.

Jones was decent again today. His kicking has come on massively.

I don’t know why we can’t just play players in their best positions, but hey ho

[Yr Alban]

Yes, he’s been superb, everything he does has a touch of class.

Ollie Smith looks potentially heir apparent at 15. Also amazing how much Darcy can influence a game from the wing.

Hope it’s just an off season but Mish looking like he is starting a slow decline at the moment

Problem Smith has is Huw Jones is also very good at 15 and returning to Glasgow. Will be hard for gametime.

I think Watson is showing that it was a lions year. Price and Fagerson both haven't had good seasons either. Let's see where they are post summer off. Crosbie made a timely return to form and Gordon really played well.

Jones was decent again today. His kicking has come on massively.

I don’t know why we can’t just play players in their best positions, but hey ho

My theory is that it’s Toony getting revenge for his own Scotland career. Played 10 in a winning Lions series v SA, but the SRU were obsessed with turning him into a 12. Why they wanted to do this was never clear.

[mos_eisely_]

Backs for the summer tour?

9: Vellacott/Dobie/Pyrgos
10: Kinghorn/Hastings
11: McLean/Hoyland
12: Dean/Lang/Redpath?
13: Bennett/Hutchinson
14:??
15: Jones

[Slick]

Backs for the summer tour?

9: Vellacott/Dobie/Pyrgos
10: Kinghorn/Hastings
11: McLean/Hoyland
12: Dean/Lang/Redpath?
13: Bennett/Hutchinson
14:??
15: Jones

Dingwall, Ollie Smith

[Biffer]

Backs for the summer tour?

9: Vellacott/Dobie/Pyrgos
10: Kinghorn/Hastings
11: McLean/Hoyland
12: Dean/Lang/Redpath?
13: Bennett/Hutchinson
14:??
15: Jones

Graham, Johnson, van der Merwe, Tuipolotou, Steyn, White, Thompson.

This isn’t some kind of training tour, it’s three games in Argentina. So best side available, which means everyone minus Fagerson, Watson, Russell, Hogg, Harris, VDM, Sutherland, Price.

I’d be very tempted to take Maitland as an old head who still does it at the highest level.

[Biffer]

I really can’t see how the SRU can let Wilson continue. With the squad they have they must be better than this. They are utterly rudderless.

Enjoyed myself at Murrayfield today. Comfortable win and we’re in the big boys cup next year.

[Margin__Walker]

Rowe was very good for LI today. Scored one sharp try and had a better one called back for a forward pass a few phases earlier.

[I like neeps]

Yes, he’s been superb, everything he does has a touch of class.

Ollie Smith looks potentially heir apparent at 15. Also amazing how much Darcy can influence a game from the wing.

Hope it’s just an off season but Mish looking like he is starting a slow decline at the moment

Problem Smith has is Huw Jones is also very good at 15 and returning to Glasgow. Will be hard for gametime.

I think Watson is showing that it was a lions year. Price and Fagerson both haven't had good seasons either. Let's see where they are post summer off. Crosbie made a timely return to form and Gordon really played well.

Jones was decent again today. His kicking has come on massively.

I don’t know why we can’t just play players in their best positions, but hey ho

Jones has been better at 15 the last two seasons than he has at 13 though. His position is 15 now.

[Slick]

Problem Smith has is Huw Jones is also very good at 15 and returning to Glasgow. Will be hard for gametime.

I think Watson is showing that it was a lions year. Price and Fagerson both haven't had good seasons either. Let's see where they are post summer off. Crosbie made a timely return to form and Gordon really played well.

Jones was decent again today. His kicking has come on massively.

I don’t know why we can’t just play players in their best positions, but hey ho

Jones has been better at 15 the last two seasons than he has at 13 though. His position is 15 now.

I don’t think we can be so definitive on that given he was absolutely world class at 13 for 2 or 3 seasons. He’s played well at 15 but never those heights, I’d hate to think we would close the door on that since it’s always felt that all he needed was confidence and game time

[weegie01]

Having got home at 1am I have not watched the game back, But from about 15 mins in I never felt there was any danger of Edinburgh losing. They never looked like they were seriously troubled as Glasgow showed little imagination (except for Miotti's try creating kick). A few Glasgow big names were pretty much MIA, though I did think Richie Gray showed up more actively than I have seen for while.

24k people in the big stadium created less of an atmosphere than a quarter that number over the road.

No scrums in the first half may be the reason the Edinburgh front row lasted so well, but they will not manage that next week I suspect.

[Big D]

Unusually for me, we were sitting in the front row of the east stand and it is amazing how different the game can look compared to way up high in the corners.

Few things stood out for me:
- surprisingly for me, Hodgson was the second row on the park where most contact he made defensively made a noise at impact. Was pretty impressed by his physicality. Bradbury too is a lot more physical than he used to be.

- Tuipolotu is club level trundler. Sure he makes yards sometimes but he has nothing, nada, zero extra to his game.

- Dean is a better 12 and player than Tuipolotu. Bennett Miles ahead of him at 13 too. Or should be.

- McLean is faster than he looks on TV. Rapid.

[I like neeps]

Jones was decent again today. His kicking has come on massively.

I don’t know why we can’t just play players in their best positions, but hey ho

Jones has been better at 15 the last two seasons than he has at 13 though. His position is 15 now.

I don’t think we can be so definitive on that given he was absolutely world class at 13 for 2 or 3 seasons. He’s played well at 15 but never those heights, I’d hate to think we would close the door on that since it’s always felt that all he needed was confidence and game time

True but that's coming up to 5 years ago when he was world class and Glasgow didn't move him to 15 until it was clear he wasn't first choice as he wasn't playing well enough.

We have enough 13s anyway. Backup 15ooks very weak but Jones is a credible option there now.

[Slick]

Jones has been better at 15 the last two seasons than he has at 13 though. His position is 15 now.

I don’t think we can be so definitive on that given he was absolutely world class at 13 for 2 or 3 seasons. He’s played well at 15 but never those heights, I’d hate to think we would close the door on that since it’s always felt that all he needed was confidence and game time

True but that's coming up to 5 years ago when he was world class and Glasgow didn't move him to 15 until it was clear he wasn't first choice as he wasn't playing well enough.

We have enough 13s anyway. Backup 15ooks very weak but Jones is a credible option there now.

Yup, agree with that last bit. Starting backs in Argentina:

9. Dobie
10. Hastings
11. Kinghorn
12. Hutchinson
13. Dingwall
14. Darcy
15. Jones

[OomStruisbaai]

Give Jones back to the Stormers. It's a waist to play such a talent in 15.

[weegie01]

Scotland 7s (13th in the standings) have just beaten SA (top). How?

[sockwithaticket]

Give Jones back to the Stormers. It's a waist to play such a talent in 15.

He looked naff for Quins at centre, it's since moving to fullback due to Tyrone Green's injury that he's actually begun to play really well.