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Nols wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:38 pm Do those stats include extremely early interventions line the morning after pill?
Morning after is contraceptive, not abortive, no?

Anyway, I don't believe so. Figures are about in line with what went before, if memory serves. Although, haven't seen illegal pill figures (which you'd assume are very low now).
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See Everready has returned to PR.

I am disappoint. :cry:
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Locke Lamora wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:06 pm Mitty - intersted to hear you know about Decawave, UWB and RF generally? It's not my background but know a bit about it through osmosis...

Yes - I think we'll all end up with wearable devices in lanyard format when we all get back to the offices ..... with alarms sounding if too many people are in a room, or if you're standing too close to someone for too long

Not a huge leap to see it in public locations also .... like pubs

I'm with mullet (and Holohan) re: the likelihood of us ending up back in a Leicester/Texas style lockdown soon enough .... the fact that one gobshite in Sligo can infect 14 family members is scary AF.

Cammy - the Devlin is pretty well placed to manage social distancing ... Birchalls has no chance
Rumour has it it was one of the Sligo based Iraqi’s that brought back the plague with him from his homeland. Probably infected other family and friends. Lots of Iraqi barbers.

Edit: https://www.theliberal.ie/sligo-boston- ... virus/amp/
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iarmhí wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 5:01 pm See Everready has returned to PR.

I am disappoint. :cry:
I am whoring myself about
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CM11 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:42 pm
Nols wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:38 pm Do those stats include extremely early interventions line the morning after pill?
Morning after is contraceptive, not abortive, no?

Anyway, I don't believe so. Figures are about in line with what went before, if memory serves. Although, haven't seen illegal pill figures (which you'd assume are very low now).
EHCs prevent implantation. They don't terminate pregnancies.
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Hellraiser wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 6:04 pm
CM11 wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:42 pm
Nols wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 4:38 pm Do those stats include extremely early interventions line the morning after pill?
Morning after is contraceptive, not abortive, no?

Anyway, I don't believe so. Figures are about in line with what went before, if memory serves. Although, haven't seen illegal pill figures (which you'd assume are very low now).
EHCs prevent implantation. They don't terminate pregnancies.
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Wasn't sure of the distinction.
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URH wrote: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:28 pm Lads, two requests here

In the absence of any holidays abroad, I might be going down south with the missus and also (separately) a few mates for a couple of days. Do you have any recommendations? Both will obviously be very different. Ta

Pretty obligatory fuck off we’re full !

Dingle Lahinch or kenmare for the missus. Rent a house. Plenty of decent eateries In striking distance. Beautiful scenery and if you get somewhere central there’s a nice area to ramble around have a pint and a bit to eat. Doubt if anywhere will have a rocking nightlife this summer
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Shinner Twitter is mad, using the funeral of Noah Donahoe to justify MON at Storey’s funeral. Absolute scum
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Arlene asked O'Neill to step aside now.

Any chance the entire party can step aside
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URH wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:36 am Shinner Twitter is mad, using the funeral of Noah Donahoe to justify MON at Storey’s funeral. Absolute scum
Scum they are indeed.
But I think there is a large element of political point scoring going on.
At the end of the day MoN is as thick as shit and has little to no power anyway given the army council’s firm grasp on proceedings. Her being forced to resign will achieve nothing, and the scumbags that support SF won’t blink an eyelid, and if anything garner more support to the party as they feel under siege again.
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URH wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:36 am Shinner Twitter is mad, using the funeral of Noah Donahoe to justify MON at Storey’s funeral. Absolute scum
I just knew they'd use that, the pricks.
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Jim Lahey wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:46 am
URH wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:36 am Shinner Twitter is mad, using the funeral of Noah Donahoe to justify MON at Storey’s funeral. Absolute scum
Scum they are indeed.
But I think there is a large element of political point scoring going on.
At the end of the day MoN is as thick as shit and has little to no power anyway given the army council’s firm grasp on proceedings. Her being forced to resign will achieve nothing, and the scumbags that support SF won’t blink an eyelid, and if anything garner more support to the party as they feel under siege again.
Did you see Mary Lou and MoN standing either side of Adams at the funeral?

That leaves me in little doubt who is pulling the strings and it ain't Mary Lou
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Jim Lahey wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:46 am
URH wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:36 am Shinner Twitter is mad, using the funeral of Noah Donahoe to justify MON at Storey’s funeral. Absolute scum
Scum they are indeed.
But I think there is a large element of political point scoring going on.
At the end of the day MoN is as thick as shit and has little to no power anyway given the army council’s firm grasp on proceedings. Her being forced to resign will achieve nothing, and the scumbags that support SF won’t blink an eyelid, and if anything garner more support to the party as they feel under siege again.
Disagree. If it was only Unionist voices giving it large I would agree but the fact that it’s all the executive parties who are having a go you know it’s serious.

I also haven’t seen anyone use the “shoe on other foot” argument yet (that’s not to say it hasn’t been pedalled out) which is the popular point scoring argument.
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Jim Lahey wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:46 am
URH wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 9:36 am Shinner Twitter is mad, using the funeral of Noah Donahoe to justify MON at Storey’s funeral. Absolute scum
Scum they are indeed.
But I think there is a large element of political point scoring going on.
At the end of the day MoN is as thick as shit and has little to no power anyway given the army council’s firm grasp on proceedings. Her being forced to resign will achieve nothing, and the scumbags that support SF won’t blink an eyelid, and if anything garner more support to the party as they feel under siege again.
She's been asked to step aside as opposed to resign, no? Just while the investigation is ongoing. Of course it's unlikely to go in her favour so resignation will be the next thing. Then we can go after Mary Lou!

In terms of political point scoring, sorry I'm not sure why they deserve to be immune to what's been going on around the world where people in the spotlight are held to a higher standard and have lost their positions as a result. And that's before getting to the whole thing being one big political point scoring exercise on their part.
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I just think that SF are a disease and by taking a couple of pills (like calling them out for being cunts in public and getting MoN to step-aside or resign) doesn’t cure the underlying problem. Grand standing by all the executive parties ain’t going to matter one iota come the next election when SF have acted the dick since going into power sharing in 1998 and their support has done nothing but grow in then interim period.

MoN steps a side or resigns, so what? We are just going to be faced with another SF cunt and nothing will have changed (in the north anyway).

The other nationalist parties should forget grandstanding over this issue and figure out how to carry out major surgery to the patient that is the nationalist community in NI, to give them a viable alternative to the scummers.
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Government starting to actively reduce the PUP payments

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/202 ... d-payment/

All part time workers who earned less than €200 pw will be dropped to €200 from July 13th. Better late than never
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HighKingLeinster wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:07 am Government starting to actively reduce the PUP payments

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/202 ... d-payment/

All part time workers who earned less than €200 pw will be dropped to €200 from July 13th. Better late than never
The department has a very odd definition of 'small number'.

Over 200 million extra given out to part time workers over their pre covid pay before you get to anyone else by my count. Hopefully most of that is staying in Ireland at least.
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HighKingLeinster wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:07 am Government starting to actively reduce the PUP payments

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/202 ... d-payment/

All part time workers who earned less than €200 pw will be dropped to €200 from July 13th. Better late than never
We have guys like Ivan Yeats bemoaning this payment even thought he has been collecting 80K a year from the taxpayer since he was 42....We pay pensions to ex politicians like Biffo and Bertie in excess of that. We allow the clearing banks to steal tax payer money, in the billions, to enrich their pension pots . we have fat, tax dodging, alleged billionaires owning our media and mustached, tax evading, billionaires telling us where we can build apartment blocks and yet all you can worry about is some poor shop assistant getting an extra 100 quid a week for a short period........ get a grip man.
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The sun god wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:09 pm
HighKingLeinster wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 10:07 am Government starting to actively reduce the PUP payments

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/202 ... d-payment/

All part time workers who earned less than €200 pw will be dropped to €200 from July 13th. Better late than never
We have guys like Ivan Yeats bemoaning this payment even thought he has been collecting 80K a year from the taxpayer since he was 42....We pay pensions to ex politicians like Biffo and Bertie in excess of that. We allow the clearing banks to steal tax payer money, in the billions, to enrich their pension pots . we have fat, tax dodging, alleged billionaires owning our media and mustached, tax evading, billionaires telling us where we can build apartment blocks and yet all you can worry about is some poor shop assistant getting an extra 100 quid a week for a short period........ get a grip man.
Ok, own up, who stole TSG's moniker?
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Yep doesn't read like something TSG would write alright
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iarmhí wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:30 pm Yep doesn't read like something TSG would write alright
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iarmhí wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:30 pm Yep doesn't read like something TSG would write alright
Why not ?...... I am all for making money and allowing enterprise to flourish but I find it hypocritical that gobshites like Yates etc. should have a pop at people who will spend every penny of that 'extra' payment in the local economy on goods, services and VAT.

Getting a 'free' pension is no different to claiming social welfare and in Yates case, he could be getting it for 40 years.
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lilyw wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:34 pm
iarmhí wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:30 pm Yep doesn't read like something TSG would write alright
The Keelings fight back
From what I hear, their business has taken such a butt fucking in the past 2 months, they better put up a more imaginative fight than that.
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The sun god wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:43 pm
iarmhí wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:30 pm Yep doesn't read like something TSG would write alright
Why not ?...... I am all for making money and allowing enterprise to flourish but I find it hypocritical that gobshites like Yates etc. should have a pop at people who will spend every penny of that 'extra' payment in the local economy on goods, services and VAT.

Getting a 'free' pension is no different to claiming social welfare and in Yates case, he could be getting it for 40 years.
It's over 100,000 getting more than €150 more than their previous pay. We're not really talking about your regular shop assistants here but the people picking up a few hours here and there. No problem if you think the extra €200m was worth it but don't minimise the cost by talking about one person getting an extra €100. Everything has to be paid for in the end.
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TSG gone to the dark side, lauding the magic money tree???

Dark times indeed
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HighKingLeinster wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:31 pm TSG gone to the dark side, lauding the magic money tree???

Dark times indeed
Have a good look at what public Service pensions cost the tax payer and come back to me.
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CM11 wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:17 pm
The sun god wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:43 pm
iarmhí wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:30 pm Yep doesn't read like something TSG would write alright
Why not ?...... I am all for making money and allowing enterprise to flourish but I find it hypocritical that gobshites like Yates etc. should have a pop at people who will spend every penny of that 'extra' payment in the local economy on goods, services and VAT.

Getting a 'free' pension is no different to claiming social welfare and in Yates case, he could be getting it for 40 years.
It's over 100,000 getting more than €150 more than their previous pay. We're not really talking about your regular shop assistants here but the people picking up a few hours here and there. No problem if you think the extra €200m was worth it but don't minimise the cost by talking about one person getting an extra €100. Everything has to be paid for in the end.
Indeed it does, in theory, and that includes the current 78K index linked, that the bold Ivan gets courtesy of spending a couple of years in Muck house and will continue to get in perpetuity.
200 million is fucking nothing in the scheme of things when nobody batted an eye-lash at a possible 1 billion euro spend on PPE. That aside wait until you see the HSE budget overspend this year and what they will demand for future years and that's before ' Phil Ní Handout' gets her snout in the trough.
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https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/202 ... rld-covid/

52000 new cases in the US yesterday. They will be at 100k in no time at this rate
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Hi all, just introducing myself. Lurked in the last place for a while. What better place to say hello than in the fount of knowledge that is the NAMA thread!! Leinster!
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Tackleberry wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:57 pm Hi all, just introducing myself. Lurked in the last place for a while. What better place to say hello than in the fount of knowledge that is the NAMA thread!! Leinster!
Welcome sir.
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HighKingLeinster wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 2:34 pm https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/202 ... rld-covid/

52000 new cases in the US yesterday. They will be at 100k in no time at this rate
Yeah but ... flat whites.
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The sun god wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:43 pm
CM11 wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 1:17 pm
The sun god wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 12:43 pm

Why not ?...... I am all for making money and allowing enterprise to flourish but I find it hypocritical that gobshites like Yates etc. should have a pop at people who will spend every penny of that 'extra' payment in the local economy on goods, services and VAT.

Getting a 'free' pension is no different to claiming social welfare and in Yates case, he could be getting it for 40 years.
It's over 100,000 getting more than €150 more than their previous pay. We're not really talking about your regular shop assistants here but the people picking up a few hours here and there. No problem if you think the extra €200m was worth it but don't minimise the cost by talking about one person getting an extra €100. Everything has to be paid for in the end.
Indeed it does, in theory, and that includes the current 78K index linked, that the bold Ivan gets courtesy of spending a couple of years in Muck house and will continue to get in perpetuity.
200 million is fucking nothing in the scheme of things when nobody batted an eye-lash at a possible 1 billion euro spend on PPE. That aside wait until you see the HSE budget overspend this year and what they will demand for future years and that's before ' Phil Ní Handout' gets her snout in the trough.
The pension thing really should be addressed. Turkeys voting for Christmas to get it changed though. Is there a way around it? I've nothing much against top up payments and pensions for older ex politicians but as you say, what logic dictates Yates gets that on top of whatever else he can earn. Are they separate payments for tax purposes or do we at least get some of that back?
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TSG's a commie on this bored all for the common man over the terrible bosses. That's mad Ted.
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Anyone else seeing Arlene using MoN social distancing to protect herself from the cash for ash issue when it comes up again?

Both of them should go
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We really need to make hay with this ra funeral. A lot of "normal" people who voted for these scum should be shown loudly and often the sheer hypocrisy. That they need to stay home while Sf member strut around like cock of the walk
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Tony Hooligan Holohan "taking time out" from his role according to rte.

Looks like ER has got his man at last

Edit: wife is in palliative care :(
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Tony Holohan taking a break which is understandable.

He must be exhausted and having to deal with a spoofer like Donnelly wouldnt give any extra motivation
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HighKingLeinster wrote: Thu Jul 02, 2020 7:10 pm Tony Hooligan Holohan "taking time out" from his role according to rte.

Looks like ER has got his man at last

Edit: wife is in palliative care :(
That's a real shame. Poor guy.

He did leave ER a parting gift:
Dr Holohan said from a public health point of view, there is no longer a reason for schools to stay closed and NPHET "will work in support of that sector".

"We've had good and extensive engagement with the Department (of Education) to implement it (the guidance). Every sector that will be important should take the advice and put in place plans."

He said "hopefully" the evidence will give further reassurance that "this disease affects children less severely and they play less of a role in transmission but it will be kept under review".
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Just saw the stuff on his wife. Poor Tony.
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