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I like neeps wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 8:38 am

Gordon Brown pretty much unveiled the plan today as he's advising Starmer. Seems bizarre Starmer wants to hide. Seems like the time the country wants leadership
Yes it’s very odd. Next election will be all to play for for the Tories
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
Thought I'd get that off my chest as I've had enough of this fucking pathetic navel gazing charade that's still got weeks to run :crazy: :bimbo:
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FFS former MEP and before that a Tory party donor.

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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:11 am FFS former MEP and before that a Tory party donor.

Will they be assisted by the Swiss Navy ??
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https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... tive-party

Fraser Nelson absolutely eviscerates the Tories here.
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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 10:11 am FFS former MEP and before that a Tory party donor.

There may be a little flaw in that plan....

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I like neeps wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:04 am https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... tive-party

Fraser Nelson absolutely eviscerates the Tories here.
The linked article is written by John Oxley; Fraser Nelson would never be that honest about the Tories.
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:04 am https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the ... tive-party

Fraser Nelson absolutely eviscerates the Tories here.
The problem is most of the solutions require a dramatic shift leftwards which the financial backers don't want and sometimes doing things that might upset their core vote.
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Camroc2 wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:35 pm
SaintK wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 10:37 am Says the woman who is slowly but surely destroying our agricultural sector with the shite trade agreements she keeps boasting about
Oh and don't mention what Brexit has done to agriculture in this country!!! She's fucking bonkers.....................and going to be outr next PM, heaven help us all
But, how will she do it ?

Do you not have legally enforceable property rights in the UK ?

If a farmer can make more money filling his fields with solar panels, and planning laws allow this to happen, what's she going to do ?
They'll change the planning laws, the same way they did to fuck over onshore wind, to try and favour fracking, and to sack off the regulations requiring house builders to pay even lip service to the notion that modern houses might need to be built with climate change considerations in mind.
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Source: Private Eye. Wonder how many of these companies were Tory donors or have a Tory MP as relative...

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SaintK wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 2:22 pm :lol: :lol: :lol: Vapid and vain!!! Touche from Sturgeon
That was the main thing she wanted to talk to me about, she wanted to know how she could get into Vogue - and she calls me an attention-seeker. I said to her they came and asked me.
I didn’t really mean to do this, but I said to her it hadn’t actually been my first time in Vogue, it had been my second time.
It looked a little bit as if she’d swallowed a wasp.
I’m sure she’ll be in Vogue before too long.
I remember it because there we were at the world’s biggest climate change conference in Glasgow, world leaders about to arrive
That was the main topic of conversation she was interested in pursuing. And once we’d exhausted that it kind of dried up.
I’m sure we’ll have many more conversations about many more substantive things.
That's a proper roasting.

Like GW, we could end up looking at Boris's tenure with some positivity yet.
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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:53 am Source: Private Eye. Wonder how many of these companies were Tory donors or have a Tory MP as relative...

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Half way down the list. Thought he hadn’t posted for a while ………
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tc27 wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 8:36 pm
dpedin wrote: Wed Aug 10, 2022 11:42 am Anyone else a bit worried about the push for Freeport's and Charter Cities? Anything I have read about them seems to indicate they are just a means to create tax havens for rich and crooks (both the same?) and to give them control over almost all authority and legal means for running them - low taxes, reduced employment regs, low regulations, high levels of privacy and reduced corporate and individual transparency, etc. Did the UK not get rid of them because they were being used for illegal activity, money laundering, movement of high value art works and tax evasion.

However I am not surprised the likes of Truss and the likes of Rees Mogg and her ERG backers and Sunak are driving their creation, they are their beachheads! Its not like they didnt tell us in advance what they were going to do - read JRMs dads book 'The Sovereign Individual' and 'Britannia Unchained' written by Kwasi Kwarteng, Priti Patel, Dominic Raab, Chris Skidmore and Liz Truss. They see these Freeport's and Charter Cities as the start of implementing their vision.

To be honest the forthcoming economic disaster driven by Brexit and power costs that is going to hit the UK this winter falls exactly into their plans. They want and need the UK to fail so they can quickly introduce the likes of Freeport's and Charter Cities and begin to implement their scary dystopian view of the future. They will be delighted if there is public unrest as this will enable them to enact even more draconian laws to restrict civil demonstrations strikes, employment regulations and union powers. They will do as little as possible to support the UK poor this winter, as Truss would call them 'hand outs' are banned and only tax cuts which benefit the rich will be implemented. Corporate taxes will be reduced in the flawed argument that this will create investment and growth - despite trickle down economics have been discredited as a figment of the imagination of right wing populists. They have used Brexit as the first step towards their deregulated, free trade world where the 'Nanny state' is removed and democratic Gov is a thing of the past.

In many ways Truss is more dangerous than the Blonde Bumblecunt - he was just a hired gun to act as a front man, she is a true zealot, stupid but a zealot. BB was too lazy and too unreliable to drive the agenda as fast as the shady backers wanted, its why they got rid of him and are installing Truss. She will do their bidding without any remorse. You have been warned!
Completely wide of the mark.

There is no sinister master plan, no long term strategy no idea how to imagine or deliver anything complicated (outside some islands of competence in the civil service and some ministers). They really have no idea what to do other than repeat vapid slogans to appease their own base and hash up grievances against the bogeyman (it was the EU now its 'Wokeism' and the 'leftist blob'). Also cant help adding this also applies IMO as much to the devolved government in Scotland just with different a bogeymen.
They are literally implementing their vision for the UK as set out in their 2012 book! Freeport's and Charter cities are a key component of their plans and they will be introduced pretty quickly once Truss is PM. Their vision has been refined since then but is essentially the same as they and previously JRM's father set out in his book. The Free Market Forum, funded by the dodgy IEA, is the home for this vision for the UK, have a look at their website. They told us back in 2012 what they would do and are now doing it. I might agree they have no coherent plan to achieve this but they do have deeply held beliefs, they are zealots, which they will pursue relentlessly.

I agree the vapid slogans are puerile but are all part of their approach to gain and retain power and it works - think about Brexit, think about Trump. They are not based on facts and data but focus on dividing and conquering and creating fear. It is exactly what Truss is doing now to appeal to the tory voters. To ignore their zealotism and write off their modus operandi is dangerous - they are in power - all the authors of Britannia Unchained are still MPs and apart from Skidmore all hold key positions in Gov. Truss will bring Skidmore back into the fold.

As left leaning Guardian said of Britannia Unchained in 2012:

'For these authors – all members of the party's right-leaning Free Enterprise Group – it is a binary world, where everything is forward or back, progress or decline, sink or swim, good or bad. They do not appear to see the world as a complex place. The choice is between regulation and dynamism: their ideal worker is one prepared to work long hours, commute long distances and expect no employment protection and low pay. Their solution to the problem of childcare is unregulated, "informal and cheap childminders". We need dramatic cuts in public expenditure, they argue, to be matched by equivalent tax cuts. The demonisation of the welfare recipient continues apace; a broad dystopian worldview dominates the future. The bottom line for these Tory radicals is that the notion of community, society or indeed country is always trumped by textbook economic liberalism.

A few years ago I asked a high-flying commentator about the notion of "compassionate conservatism". This young columnist is hardwired into the project set out in Britannia Unchained and gives his readers a weekly report from the frontline. His contempt for the compassionate version of Tory ideology was total. Why, I asked. Because "we" are "liberals organising within the Conservative party," he replied. It is this economic liberalism that has sought, albeit in vain, to sell off our forests. It seeks a planning free-for-all; it celebrates chaos. It would dismantle valued national institutions – in broadcasting, policing, transport and health. Such libertarianism is unpatriotic – the nation's best interests wouldn't be pursued in industrial strategy, defence or indeed Britain's place within Europe. It threatens the "national-popular" foundations of the Thatcher revolution; it is a brutal and destructive creed at odds with national interest as she understood it.
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This was in 2012, scarily prophetic, it is where we are today. Ignore these zealots at your peril, worse is to come ....
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Not just Brittania Unchained. Truss is in up to her neck with this right wing group group as well. Some head banging nutters in that lot!!
Wonder if she'll resign or start implementing some of their ideas and aims?
https://www.1828.org.uk/
1828’s mission is to make the positive case for free markets, free speech and free people.

With economic liberalism often sidelined, it is more important than ever to champion freedom and make the case for free markets and limited government.

Our aim is to spark debate by providing a non-partisan platform for individuals – especially younger voices – to share their opinion on a wide-range of policy and current affairs, including economics, politics and international relations.

Board of Advisers
Crispin Blunt MP, Andrew Boff AM, Andrew Lewer MBE MP, Ryan Bourne, Sam Bowman, Eamonn Butler, Douglas Carswell, Nusrat Ghani MP, Dan Hannan, Julian Knight MP, Bruno Prior, Ian Silvera, Matt Taylor, Radomir Tylecote, Matt Gillow, Jack Powell and Matt Ridley.

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SaintK wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:41 pm Not just Brittania Unchained. Truss is in up to her neck with this right wing group group as well. Some head banging nutters in that lot!!
Wonder if she'll resign or start implementing some of their ideas and aims?
https://www.1828.org.uk/
1828’s mission is to make the positive case for free markets, free speech and free people.

With economic liberalism often sidelined, it is more important than ever to champion freedom and make the case for free markets and limited government.

Our aim is to spark debate by providing a non-partisan platform for individuals – especially younger voices – to share their opinion on a wide-range of policy and current affairs, including economics, politics and international relations.

Board of Advisers
Crispin Blunt MP, Andrew Boff AM, Andrew Lewer MBE MP, Ryan Bourne, Sam Bowman, Eamonn Butler, Douglas Carswell, Nusrat Ghani MP, Dan Hannan, Julian Knight MP, Bruno Prior, Ian Silvera, Matt Taylor, Radomir Tylecote, Matt Gillow, Jack Powell and Matt Ridley.

Board of Parliamentary Supporters
Crispin Blunt MP, Nusrat Ghani MP, Rachel Maclean MP, Julian Knight MP, Lee Rowley MP, Liz Truss MP
Which is it that you don't like SaintK: free markets, free speech or free people? Or are you pro-Orban?
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charltom wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:24 pm
SaintK wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:41 pm Not just Brittania Unchained. Truss is in up to her neck with this right wing group group as well. Some head banging nutters in that lot!!
Wonder if she'll resign or start implementing some of their ideas and aims?
https://www.1828.org.uk/
1828’s mission is to make the positive case for free markets, free speech and free people.

With economic liberalism often sidelined, it is more important than ever to champion freedom and make the case for free markets and limited government.

Our aim is to spark debate by providing a non-partisan platform for individuals – especially younger voices – to share their opinion on a wide-range of policy and current affairs, including economics, politics and international relations.

Board of Advisers
Crispin Blunt MP, Andrew Boff AM, Andrew Lewer MBE MP, Ryan Bourne, Sam Bowman, Eamonn Butler, Douglas Carswell, Nusrat Ghani MP, Dan Hannan, Julian Knight MP, Bruno Prior, Ian Silvera, Matt Taylor, Radomir Tylecote, Matt Gillow, Jack Powell and Matt Ridley.

Board of Parliamentary Supporters
Crispin Blunt MP, Nusrat Ghani MP, Rachel Maclean MP, Julian Knight MP, Lee Rowley MP, Liz Truss MP
Which is it that you don't like SaintK: free markets, free speech or free people? Or are you pro-Orban?
There is a country that is nearest the libertarian dream and most free from standards and rules. It is called Russia. Really they are highly selective libertarians.
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charltom wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:24 pm
SaintK wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:41 pm Not just Brittania Unchained. Truss is in up to her neck with this right wing group group as well. Some head banging nutters in that lot!!
Wonder if she'll resign or start implementing some of their ideas and aims?
https://www.1828.org.uk/
1828’s mission is to make the positive case for free markets, free speech and free people.

With economic liberalism often sidelined, it is more important than ever to champion freedom and make the case for free markets and limited government.

Our aim is to spark debate by providing a non-partisan platform for individuals – especially younger voices – to share their opinion on a wide-range of policy and current affairs, including economics, politics and international relations.

Board of Advisers
Crispin Blunt MP, Andrew Boff AM, Andrew Lewer MBE MP, Ryan Bourne, Sam Bowman, Eamonn Butler, Douglas Carswell, Nusrat Ghani MP, Dan Hannan, Julian Knight MP, Bruno Prior, Ian Silvera, Matt Taylor, Radomir Tylecote, Matt Gillow, Jack Powell and Matt Ridley.

Board of Parliamentary Supporters
Crispin Blunt MP, Nusrat Ghani MP, Rachel Maclean MP, Julian Knight MP, Lee Rowley MP, Liz Truss MP
Which is it that you don't like SaintK: free markets, free speech or free people? Or are you pro-Orban?
Yeah, really am very pro Orban :roll:
I just don't want a PM who has been and still is involved with a right leaning think tank like 1828. FFS Carswell and Hannan!!
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charltom wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 3:24 pm
SaintK wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 1:41 pm Not just Brittania Unchained. Truss is in up to her neck with this right wing group group as well. Some head banging nutters in that lot!!
Wonder if she'll resign or start implementing some of their ideas and aims?
https://www.1828.org.uk/
1828’s mission is to make the positive case for free markets, free speech and free people.

With economic liberalism often sidelined, it is more important than ever to champion freedom and make the case for free markets and limited government.

Our aim is to spark debate by providing a non-partisan platform for individuals – especially younger voices – to share their opinion on a wide-range of policy and current affairs, including economics, politics and international relations.

Board of Advisers
Crispin Blunt MP, Andrew Boff AM, Andrew Lewer MBE MP, Ryan Bourne, Sam Bowman, Eamonn Butler, Douglas Carswell, Nusrat Ghani MP, Dan Hannan, Julian Knight MP, Bruno Prior, Ian Silvera, Matt Taylor, Radomir Tylecote, Matt Gillow, Jack Powell and Matt Ridley.

Board of Parliamentary Supporters
Crispin Blunt MP, Nusrat Ghani MP, Rachel Maclean MP, Julian Knight MP, Lee Rowley MP, Liz Truss MP
Which is it that you don't like SaintK: free markets, free speech or free people? Or are you pro-Orban?
If you genuinely think the unregulated free markets are a good thing, Adam Smith would like a word.
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tabascoboy wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 11:53 am Source: Private Eye. Wonder how many of these companies were Tory donors or have a Tory MP as relative...

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A Striking picture of corruption.

If the SFO investigated just the top three companies, I'll bet they'd have grounds for putting dozens of people in prison, & that would include senior Politicians.

Randox stinks like a month old fish.
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Labours intervention is to give public money to energy firms ripping off people who use prepayment meters. Good grief.
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:09 am

Labours intervention is to give public money to energy firms ripping off people who use prepayment meters. Good grief.
I'm generally inclined to give centrist Labour the benefit of the doubt but holy shit that is weak.

Even setting aside the principle of the intervention, the size of it at £113m is £4 per household in the UK over the course of the winter. We have a political class that can't grasp the scale of the issue.

Should be an open goal for Labour as well really. There's a raft of policy ideas that they could announce that would be broadly popular and not scare voters, like windfall taxes and aggressive price caps. It's an environment where they can even talk about nationalisation without sounding like unelectable socialists, because everyone feels like they are getting royally screwed by the utility companies.
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robmatic wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:31 am
I like neeps wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:09 am

Labours intervention is to give public money to energy firms ripping off people who use prepayment meters. Good grief.
I'm generally inclined to give centrist Labour the benefit of the doubt but holy shit that is weak.

Even setting aside the principle of the intervention, the size of it at £113m is £4 per household in the UK over the course of the winter. We have a political class that can't grasp the scale of the issue.

Should be an open goal for Labour as well really. There's a raft of policy ideas that they could announce that would be broadly popular and not scare voters, like windfall taxes and aggressive price caps. It's an environment where they can even talk about nationalisation without sounding like unelectable socialists, because everyone feels like they are getting royally screwed by the utility companies.
Nationalisation was a Starmer pledge so naturally he had to drop it. Labour have no ideas because they don't stand for anything past winning back imaginary brexit voters.

I understand they think they think they have to be "not Corbyn". But Truss saying yesterday energy firms getting increased profits is great, that they aren't evil and that's Corbyn language is an open goal. Starmer should say profits through innovation and investment are great. The firm's are profiting from war and human suffering and that is not great. But they won't, nobody makes the case for positive British capitalism anymore. It's rentierism on the right or nothing in the "centre".
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I like neeps wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:41 am
robmatic wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:31 am
I like neeps wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:09 am

Labours intervention is to give public money to energy firms ripping off people who use prepayment meters. Good grief.
I'm generally inclined to give centrist Labour the benefit of the doubt but holy shit that is weak.

Even setting aside the principle of the intervention, the size of it at £113m is £4 per household in the UK over the course of the winter. We have a political class that can't grasp the scale of the issue.

Should be an open goal for Labour as well really. There's a raft of policy ideas that they could announce that would be broadly popular and not scare voters, like windfall taxes and aggressive price caps. It's an environment where they can even talk about nationalisation without sounding like unelectable socialists, because everyone feels like they are getting royally screwed by the utility companies.
Nationalisation was a Starmer pledge so naturally he had to drop it. Labour have no ideas because they don't stand for anything past winning back imaginary brexit voters.

I understand they think they think they have to be "not Corbyn". But Truss saying yesterday energy firms getting increased profits is great, that they aren't evil and that's Corbyn language is an open goal. Starmer should say profits through innovation and investment are great. The firm's are profiting from war and human suffering and that is not great. But they won't, nobody makes the case for positive British capitalism anymore. It's rentierism on the right or nothing in the "centre".
Bit selective neeps. Reading the twitter thread it says one of several policies. The fuller pack of policies will be announced over the next few days.
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petej wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 12:28 pm
I like neeps wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:41 am
robmatic wrote: Fri Aug 12, 2022 8:31 am

I'm generally inclined to give centrist Labour the benefit of the doubt but holy shit that is weak.

Even setting aside the principle of the intervention, the size of it at £113m is £4 per household in the UK over the course of the winter. We have a political class that can't grasp the scale of the issue.

Should be an open goal for Labour as well really. There's a raft of policy ideas that they could announce that would be broadly popular and not scare voters, like windfall taxes and aggressive price caps. It's an environment where they can even talk about nationalisation without sounding like unelectable socialists, because everyone feels like they are getting royally screwed by the utility companies.
Nationalisation was a Starmer pledge so naturally he had to drop it. Labour have no ideas because they don't stand for anything past winning back imaginary brexit voters.

I understand they think they think they have to be "not Corbyn". But Truss saying yesterday energy firms getting increased profits is great, that they aren't evil and that's Corbyn language is an open goal. Starmer should say profits through innovation and investment are great. The firm's are profiting from war and human suffering and that is not great. But they won't, nobody makes the case for positive British capitalism anymore. It's rentierism on the right or nothing in the "centre".
Bit selective neeps. Reading the twitter thread it says one of several policies. The fuller pack of policies will be announced over the next few days.
And an extremely poor start. His proposal is to give public money to make up the shortfalls to energy firms who rip off low income people so they stop ripping them off rather than proposing that it is illegal for prepayment meters to have separate tariffs. And they're still ripping them off just now ripping them off as much as they're ripping all of us off. Maybe he should have stayed on holiday.



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Insane_Homer wrote: Thu Aug 11, 2022 5:19 pm
A point every interviewer appear to keep missing.

"So Rishi. You think you are the best candidate to dig Britain out of the abyss? The same abyss you drove the bus into?"
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Pffft. stop worrying - Freeports and war on woke will fix everything.

Well, seem like Therese Coffey is yet another Tory MP whose dumping into political waste ground couldn't come soon enough



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tabascoboy wrote: Sat Aug 13, 2022 9:40 am Pffft. stop worrying - Freeports and war on woke will fix everything.

Well, seem like Therese Coffey is yet another Tory MP whose dumping into political waste ground couldn't come soon enough



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In saying that, seeing the fucking state of the beach the morning after a warm night makes me wonder how many people actually give a shit, it’s quite depressing
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Who'd have thought it?
A proposal to curb ministerial influence over the £4.8bn levelling up fund after claims of possible bias in favour of Tory seats has been rejected by the government.
Analysis has revealed more than half of the 100 most deprived areas of the country have not yet benefited from the fund. The awards are under fresh scrutiny after former chancellor Rishi Sunak told an audience in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, that he changed funding formulas to divert money from “deprived urban areas”.
The government has now rejected a recommendation by the Commons public accounts committee to hold back the identities of shortlisted bidders from ministers until the principles for allocating awards have been finalised. It said such a move was unnecessary and impractical.
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SaintK wrote: Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:32 am Who'd have thought it?
A proposal to curb ministerial influence over the £4.8bn levelling up fund after claims of possible bias in favour of Tory seats has been rejected by the government.
Analysis has revealed more than half of the 100 most deprived areas of the country have not yet benefited from the fund. The awards are under fresh scrutiny after former chancellor Rishi Sunak told an audience in Tunbridge Wells, Kent, that he changed funding formulas to divert money from “deprived urban areas”.
The government has now rejected a recommendation by the Commons public accounts committee to hold back the identities of shortlisted bidders from ministers until the principles for allocating awards have been finalised. It said such a move was unnecessary and impractical.
https://www.theguardian.com/inequalit ... -funds
The "Tory Ministerial, & Marginal Seats Fund", would be a much more honest name
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I don't think it'll get to the point of British refugees paddling small boats across the Irish sea*, but he's not wrong about the crisis for societies most vulnerable.
Fergus Finlay: The UK is facing imminent disaster under their undesirable leaders

Our nearest neighbour, and frequently best friend, is heading for a catastrophe. We’re facing tough and difficult times ourselves — and I certainly don’t want to understate that. But I can foresee a day, not too far away, when we may have to provide shelter and sustenance to our neighbour’s children.

Things have got so bad in their house that children are going to go hungry, malnutrition may even become a feature of life, and some of them may die of the cold. It can surely only be a matter of time before they’ll start piling into emigrant boats to try to find a safer haven with us.

It's the United Kingdom I’m talking about, not an actual next-door neighbour. They’re facing imminent disaster.

For years I worked for the children’s charity Barnardos, which was actually founded in London in Victorian times. The founder Thomas Barnardo was a young Dubliner who was studying to be a Far East missionary when he started one of the so-called “ragged schools” which were trying to educate destitute children. According to legend, it was there he met a boy called Jim Jarvis who offered to show him where all the destitute children lived.

Many of them slept on the rooftops, to try to take advantage of whatever heat came up from the fireplaces below. That was what inspired Barnardo to open the first of his “homes” to take children off the streets and to provide them with a rudimentary education.

Two days after the first home was declared full, another young boy who had been turned away was found frozen to death in a barrel where he was trying to shelter. From that moment on Barnardo’s maxim was that he would never turn any child away.

Of course, the UK has moved a long way from those bitter times. There are safety nets now, a national health service, social services dedicated to protecting children, a strong and wealthy economy that has been developed on the basis of fair distribution, and a classless society where no-one has the right to claim privilege. No child in the UK can be threatened by hunger, cold, or homelessness now.

If only it were so. The entire UK is heading for an economic and social calamity of the sort it hasn’t seen for 30 years or more. Children will go hungry in their thousands this winter, and families will suffer cold and hardship. In one of the world’s rich countries.

And while it’s happening, what is laughingly referred to as its government is fast asleep at the wheel.
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https://www.irishexaminer.com/opinion/c ... 35488.html

* Mostly because I'd hope that before that happened, the guilty parties would be dangling from lamp posts.
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Probably the most stupid thing a politician has ever said?
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The wicked witch from Witham says "find your own housing"
Thousands of Afghan refugees who have been living in UK hotels since the Taliban takeover of their country a year ago have been told by the Home Office to look for new accommodation on Rightmove or Zoopla.
On the first anniversary of the fall of Kabul, the government is still providing hotel accommodation to 9,500 Afghans who sought refuge in the UK, with only 7,000 having been rehoused.
While charities welcomed government moves to wind down the use of hotels to house the refugees, they expressed concerns that many would not be able to find suitable accommodation in the private rented sector and risked ending up homeless.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2 ... ightmove
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SaintK wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:20 am The wicked witch from Witham says "find your own housing"
Thousands of Afghan refugees who have been living in UK hotels since the Taliban takeover of their country a year ago have been told by the Home Office to look for new accommodation on Rightmove or Zoopla.
On the first anniversary of the fall of Kabul, the government is still providing hotel accommodation to 9,500 Afghans who sought refuge in the UK, with only 7,000 having been rehoused.
While charities welcomed government moves to wind down the use of hotels to house the refugees, they expressed concerns that many would not be able to find suitable accommodation in the private rented sector and risked ending up homeless.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2 ... ightmove
Don't know the timescales involved, but is this so unreasonable after a year being housed in a hotel? That's enough time to get settled to an extent over here.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:27 am
SaintK wrote: Mon Aug 15, 2022 11:20 am The wicked witch from Witham says "find your own housing"
Thousands of Afghan refugees who have been living in UK hotels since the Taliban takeover of their country a year ago have been told by the Home Office to look for new accommodation on Rightmove or Zoopla.
On the first anniversary of the fall of Kabul, the government is still providing hotel accommodation to 9,500 Afghans who sought refuge in the UK, with only 7,000 having been rehoused.
While charities welcomed government moves to wind down the use of hotels to house the refugees, they expressed concerns that many would not be able to find suitable accommodation in the private rented sector and risked ending up homeless.
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2 ... ightmove
Don't know the timescales involved, but is this so unreasonable after a year being housed in a hotel? That's enough time to get settled to an extent over here.
You'd have thought the home office would have a resettlement team in place? Seems a bit odd to (a) have them in hotels for a year anyway especially when there's so many jobs around and then (b) tell them to do it themselves. What about credit checks for example? I can't imagine renting in the UK is that similar to renting in Afghanistan.

And when I say you'd have thought I mean the government obviously don't.
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Starmer has come out and said the cap should be freezed so I presume the govt will bailout suppliers going bust e.g. the financial crash.

On another note, plans are being drawn up by academy trusts for schools to only open 3 days per week to deal with the cost of heating. I really don't think people appreciate how bad this is going to be. Across Europe this winter there will be discussions on how long we can support Ukraine, I predict.
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