President Biden and US politics catchall

Where goats go to escape
Rinkals
Posts: 2101
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:37 pm

Caley_Red wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 8:28 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:09 am
Caley_Red wrote: Wed Aug 19, 2020 7:04 am To be fair, there are loads of posters who never post about rugby, too exercised by the US Politics and Brexit threads usually.
Name five.
I should change my wording to "c90% of posts" as I couldn't possibly have read everything they posted.

I don't want to be going down the road of naming these people as I don't think it's particularly high-minded and, in any case, I'm sure someone would be able to pull up an example where they posted regularly about rugby in the past. I only joined the old board in summer 2018 so I didn't know the PR world before tedious obsessions with all things Brexit, Trump, Culture Wars etc would have come to the fore (given that they're fairly recent phenomena).

My point on the above being, mass non-rugby posters are hardly without precedence.
I have to put my hand up and say that I haven't posted about rugby on this rugby forum.

In my defence there's been precious little rugby to get too excited about over the last couple of months.
User avatar
Kiwias
Posts: 6844
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:44 am

Kellyanne Conway, the author of "alternative facts", has jumped ship.
Sinkers
Posts: 475
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:04 am

Seems to be a domestic thing as George is stepping down from the Lincoln project also?
User avatar
Hal Jordan
Posts: 4154
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:48 pm
Location: Sector 2814

Would that make the odious Miller the only non-family member to have lasted the Administration?
User avatar
Ali Cadoo
Posts: 453
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

Sinkers wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:56 am Seems to be a domestic thing as George is stepping down from the Lincoln project also?
The daughter keeps tweeting about how much the parents' career [choices?] have ruined their lives, not a great look ahead of an election. I prefer to think of Kellyanne seeking to leave a sinking ship, though....
.OverThere
Posts: 133
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 4:27 pm

Hal Jordan wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:08 am Would that make the odious Miller the only non-family member to have lasted the Administration?
Pence too.
Line6 HXFX
Posts: 1148
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:31 am

Kelly Anne was the administration, she wasn't some bit part player, she single handedly inspired others with her warped bullshit, and glued it all together in times of severe crisis.
This isn't about jumping ship.
She didn't hitch her wagon to trump. If anything he hitched his to hers.
Slick
Posts: 11908
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:58 pm

Line6 HXFX wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:24 pm Kelly Anne was the administration, she wasn't some bit part player, she single handedly inspired others with her warped bullshit, and glued it all together in times of severe crisis.
This isn't about jumping ship.
She didn't hitch her wagon to trump. If anything he hitched his to hers.
Didn't she spend a couple of days calling out Trump on Twitter a few weeks back? I'd assumed she had already gone after that, apparently not.
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
User avatar
Ata Rangi
Posts: 72
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:54 am

.OverThere wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 2:18 pm
Hal Jordan wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 7:08 am Would that make the odious Miller the only non-family member to have lasted the Administration?
Pence too.
There are a few. Higher profile devotees include Pompeo, Carson, Chao, De Vos, Mnuchin, Ross, Perdue, and, of course, Chris Liddell.
User avatar
JM2K6
Posts: 9794
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:43 am

I found this to be a good read: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ion-400039

Essentially, what the GOP stands for (or doesn't) under Trump
User avatar
Ali Cadoo
Posts: 453
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

JM2K6 wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 4:34 pm I found this to be a good read: https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/ ... ion-400039

Essentially, what the GOP stands for (or doesn't) under Trump
Cheers for posting that, great read.

Trump's speech at the RNC is the expected jingoistic word salad... currently crapping on about how the Dakota pipeline has been approved and is a great thing... pretty much proving everything in the politico article.
Fat Old Git
Posts: 123
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:25 am

Trump is saying the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged. He though he appears to have been the one trying to rig it by suppressing votes.
dob
Posts: 86
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 11:17 pm

Fat Old Git wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:27 pm Trump is saying the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged. He though he appears to have been the one trying to rig it by suppressing votes.
It's the Lance Armstrong defence. "I know I'm doping, so if you beat me, you MUST be doping even more!"
User avatar
notfatcat
Posts: 643
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:42 pm

Fat Old Git wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:27 pm Trump is saying the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged. He though he appears to have been the one trying to rig it by suppressing votes.
What's his conspiracy theory and is it any more lamentable than the dems' USPS delusional hysteria?
Chris Jack, 67 test All Black - "I was voted most useless and laziest cunt in the English Premiership two years on the trot"
User avatar
Kiwias
Posts: 6844
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:44 am

notfatcat wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:09 pm
Fat Old Git wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:27 pm Trump is saying the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged. He though he appears to have been the one trying to rig it by suppressing votes.
What's his conspiracy theory and is it any more lamentable than the dems' USPS delusional hysteria?
Well, I am glad that has been cleared up. Thanks.
User avatar
Ali Cadoo
Posts: 453
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

User avatar
Hong Kong
Posts: 417
Joined: Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:04 am

Ali Cadoo wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:12 am
Ouch! That’s going to hurt the fragile man-child
User avatar
Ali Cadoo
Posts: 453
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

Mike Cohen's just thrown him under the bus, too:
Gumboot
Posts: 8024
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 9:17 am

Apparently the Republicans have decided not to adopt any new election policy platform whatsoever this year, preferring to stick with their 2016 version. So if Trump wins they'll be happy to just let him keep making shit up as he goes along.
User avatar
Ali Cadoo
Posts: 453
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

They should call up Seneca/Santa and BillW to speak at the RNC - they'd be slightly less mediocre and second rate than the bunch of losers they currently have lined up.
User avatar
Kiwias
Posts: 6844
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:44 am

WATCH OUT, THE MARXIST LIBERAL RADICALS ARE COMING!!!!
User avatar
Ali Cadoo
Posts: 453
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

Kiwias wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 1:44 am WATCH OUT, THE MARXIST LIBERAL RADICALS ARE COMING!!!!
Surprisingly, made up mostly of Republican senators.
User avatar
Kiwias
Posts: 6844
Joined: Sat Jul 04, 2020 1:44 am

Do I really want to listen to this wanker?
User avatar
Ali Cadoo
Posts: 453
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 1:36 pm

Trump? Probably not, unless you are all about the lols.
Sinkers
Posts: 475
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 6:04 am

"Now if you really want to drive them crazy, you say 12 more years,"

Own those libtards and their lefty, radical constitutional democracy
User avatar
Insane_Homer
Posts: 5389
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:14 pm
Location: Leafy Surrey

So this guy, tweets Trump tweets...

“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
Slick
Posts: 11908
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 2:58 pm

I'm kind of in a state of suspended belief that Trump really is whipping up the population to not accept the result of the election. It just seems incredible that this is happening in a modern state, the leaders of the free world no less. The fact that lawmakers on his side are happy to sit and twiddle their thumbs and not make a stand is beyond contempt.

Is 4 years enough to bring down an empire? I guess it is. The best bet is that this passes into history and we march on, but I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that this will cause civil war and the end of the USA hegemony
All the money you made will never buy back your soul
Rinkals
Posts: 2101
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:37 pm

Slick wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:28 am I'm kind of in a state of suspended belief that Trump really is whipping up the population to not accept the result of the election. It just seems incredible that this is happening in a modern state, the leaders of the free world no less. The fact that lawmakers on his side are happy to sit and twiddle their thumbs and not make a stand is beyond contempt.

Is 4 years enough to bring down an empire? I guess it is. The best bet is that this passes into history and we march on, but I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that this will cause civil war and the end of the USA hegemony
I said as much a few years ago. Namely that there was a danger that Trump would try to spark a rebellion if he failed to win a second term but was derided as being a conspiracy theorist at the time.

The point is that there are enough small heavily armed militia including that Bundy Boys outfit that instigated an armed insurrection in Navada to make the scenario plausible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign ... n_movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_Keepers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_of_Montana

The fact that these groups are legally heavily armed must leave a trail of touchpowder to a potentially dangerous tinderbox, should Trump not win. And Trump is clearly lighting matches.

I'm not saying that it will happen; merely that the potential exists.

Who knows, maybe Trump will be re-elected by landslide rendering the possibility moot.
KingBlairhorn
Posts: 1855
Joined: Fri Jul 03, 2020 9:53 am

Rinkals wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:56 am
Slick wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 8:28 am I'm kind of in a state of suspended belief that Trump really is whipping up the population to not accept the result of the election. It just seems incredible that this is happening in a modern state, the leaders of the free world no less. The fact that lawmakers on his side are happy to sit and twiddle their thumbs and not make a stand is beyond contempt.

Is 4 years enough to bring down an empire? I guess it is. The best bet is that this passes into history and we march on, but I don't think it is beyond the realms of possibility that this will cause civil war and the end of the USA hegemony
I said as much a few years ago. Namely that there was a danger that Trump would try to spark a rebellion if he failed to win a second term but was derided as being a conspiracy theorist at the time.

The point is that there are enough small heavily armed militia including that Bundy Boys outfit that instigated an armed insurrection in Navada to make the scenario plausible.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign ... n_movement
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oath_Keepers
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Militia_of_Montana

The fact that these groups are legally heavily armed must leave a trail of touchpowder to a potentially dangerous tinderbox, should Trump not win. And Trump is clearly lighting matches.

I'm not saying that it will happen; merely that the potential exists.

Who knows, maybe Trump will be re-elected by landslide rendering the possibility moot.
Are these sorts actually prepared to act on their rhetoric though? If the bullets started flying, especially if the military is involved, would these guys stick at it and fight / die or would they slink off into the distance with their tails between their legs?

I genuinely don't know but my best guess is they would choose the later option?
User avatar
Fangle
Posts: 567
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 3:25 pm

Whoever wins the election, I honestly see nothing serious happening. There might be a bunch making some noise, but not even a fraction of the size of the recent marches and damage caused in say Portland or Seattle.
ticketlessinseattle
Posts: 63
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:00 pm

notfatcat wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:09 pm
Fat Old Git wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:27 pm Trump is saying the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged. He though he appears to have been the one trying to rig it by suppressing votes.
What's his conspiracy theory and is it any more lamentable than the dems' USPS delusional hysteria?
hysteria about undermining a system of voting that was used by 20% of the voting population last time out and which will be the only safe way of voting in a pandemic - that hysteria ?
ticketlessinseattle
Posts: 63
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:00 pm

Fangle wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 2:46 pm Whoever wins the election, I honestly see nothing serious happening. There might be a bunch making some noise, but not even a fraction of the size of the recent marches and damage caused in say Portland or Seattle.
yeah, if Trump loses it'll be another sideshow with plenty of angry fcuking morons but I dont see a military coup unfolding and I wouldn't fancy the chances of any knuckle dragging militia taking on the US federal forces
User avatar
notfatcat
Posts: 643
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:42 pm

ticketlessinseattle wrote: Tue Aug 25, 2020 3:26 pm
notfatcat wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 9:09 pm
Fat Old Git wrote: Mon Aug 24, 2020 8:27 pm Trump is saying the only way he can lose is if the election is rigged. He though he appears to have been the one trying to rig it by suppressing votes.
What's his conspiracy theory and is it any more lamentable than the dems' USPS delusional hysteria?
hysteria about undermining a system of voting that was used by 20% of the voting population last time out and which will be the only safe way of voting in a pandemic - that hysteria ?
Yep.
Chris Jack, 67 test All Black - "I was voted most useless and laziest cunt in the English Premiership two years on the trot"
User avatar
fishfoodie
Posts: 8219
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 8:25 pm

So Fredo Trump plans on taking the 5th, rather than testifying to the AD investigating the tax/bank/insurance fraud by his shit stain of a father.

And the GOP has been telling us for decades that only criminals take the 5th; things like:
“The mob takes the Fifth,” Trump said after Hillary Clinton aides invoked their right against self-incrimination. “If you’re innocent, why are you taking the Fifth Amendment?”

He added at his first debate with Clinton that pleading the Fifth is “disgraceful.”
Fat Old Git
Posts: 123
Joined: Fri Aug 14, 2020 4:25 am

Mrs Trump says in her speech that you want "total honesty" in a president and claims that what you get with her husband.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
User avatar
Sandstorm
Posts: 10883
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:05 pm
Location: England

Fat Old Git wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:52 am Mrs Trump says in her speech that you want "total honesty" in a president and claims that what you get with her husband.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Clearly she has no pre-nup in place. Unlucky.
User avatar
Hal Jordan
Posts: 4154
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 12:48 pm
Location: Sector 2814

Pam Bondi gives speech to RNC: "Nepotism is bad, look at that Hunter Biden."

Next speaker? Tiffany Trump.
Yer Man
Posts: 5
Joined: Tue Jun 30, 2020 5:11 pm

Sandstorm wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:02 am
Fat Old Git wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:52 am Mrs Trump says in her speech that you want "total honesty" in a president and claims that what you get with her husband.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Clearly she has no pre-nup in place. Unlucky.
Isn't the rumour that her citizenship will be revoked if she divorces him?
User avatar
Uncle fester
Posts: 4190
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 9:42 pm

Yer Man wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 12:24 pm
Sandstorm wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 11:02 am
Fat Old Git wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 8:52 am Mrs Trump says in her speech that you want "total honesty" in a president and claims that what you get with her husband.

:lol: :lol: :lol:
Clearly she has no pre-nup in place. Unlucky.
Isn't the rumour that her citizenship will be revoked if she divorces him?
How is that in any way legally enforceable?
User avatar
Sandstorm
Posts: 10883
Joined: Mon Jun 29, 2020 7:05 pm
Location: England

Uncle fester wrote: Wed Aug 26, 2020 1:04 pm
How is that in any way legally enforceable?
Appoint your own Supreme Court judges.
Post Reply