The Official English Rugby Thread

[Lobby]

Someone coated the Bristol teams hands with chipfat before the game. Shockingly bad, but credit to Newcastle, they clearly want it more.

Wasps made 19 handling errors when facing Bristol a couple of weeks ago. Bris must have exceeded that tonight.

Absolutely scorching effort from Carreras, he was fed by another handling error and well after the point at which Bristol should have kicked it out. Carrying on playing has cost them a losing bonus point and allowed Newcastle to secure a try scoring bonus point.

Newcastle's hunger was palpable.

Bristol were already outside losing bonus point range; that’s why there were continuing to play, they were trying to get a losing bonus point.

[sockwithaticket]

Someone coated the Bristol teams hands with chipfat before the game. Shockingly bad, but credit to Newcastle, they clearly want it more.

Wasps made 19 handling errors when facing Bristol a couple of weeks ago. Bris must have exceeded that tonight.

Absolutely scorching effort from Carreras, he was fed by another handling error and well after the point at which Bristol should have kicked it out. Carrying on playing has cost them a losing bonus point and allowed Newcastle to secure a try scoring bonus point.

Newcastle's hunger was palpable.

Bristol were already outside losing bonus point range; that’s why there were continuing to play, they were trying to get a losing bonus point.

Too eager to give Bristol both barrels, arithmetic fail.

[Torquemada 1420]

Wasps made 19 handling errors when facing Bristol a couple of weeks ago. Bris must have exceeded that tonight.

Absolutely scorching effort from Carreras, he was fed by another handling error and well after the point at which Bristol should have kicked it out. Carrying on playing has cost them a losing bonus point and allowed Newcastle to secure a try scoring bonus point.

Newcastle's hunger was palpable.

Bristol were already outside losing bonus point range; that’s why there were continuing to play, they were trying to get a losing bonus point.

Too eager to give Bristol both barrels, arithmetic fail.

A role at No11 awaits you sir.

[sockwithaticket]

Maths was never one of my stronger subjects, but I suspect even letting me loose on the country's accounting would spook the markets less than 11's current occupant!

[LenCohen]

Sinckler's having a bit of a stinker in the Bris- Falcons game. Lost the ball almost every time it's come his way.

Awful game from him, dropped everything and very petulant.

It's very weird, he had the look of someone who really didn't want to be there. Like visibly going through the motions.

[Torquemada 1420]

Bath

[Margin__Walker]

Yeah, LI are on it today and not a huge amount of resistance so far from Bath.

35 - 5 at HT

Flinging it wide and playing at a very high tempo. First half hat trick for OHC, with Loader getting the other two. Hamer-Webb with Bath's try from a nice Gallagher break.

Bath unlucky with injuries with McNally and Van Velze going off with bad looking arm/shoulder injuries.

We love a bit of drama though, so there will no doubt be a comeback of some sort

[Torquemada 1420]

We love a bit of drama though, so there will no doubt be a comeback of some sort

Your wish.........

[sockwithaticket]

Not quite sure how strong Leciester are this season after all the personnel changes, but that was an ominous looking performance from Saracens.

[Oxbow]

Entertaining game at least, Bath not quite so shit in the second half.

[Margin__Walker]

We love a bit of drama though, so there will no doubt be a comeback of some sort

Your wish.........

Thankfully the win never really felt under threat, but disappointing second half all the same.

Classic Dickson moment at one point during a tackle slowly going to ground.
'Tackle Release!'.
Bath player doesn't and rips the ball launching a counter attack.
'You said release sir'
'Sorry, I may have said it too soon. Play on'

[Kawazaki]

Not quite sure how strong Leciester are this season after all the personnel changes, but that was an ominous looking performance from Saracens.

Some re-evaluation of players will be required I suspect. And maybe some humble pie consumed.

Theo McFarland is some player though. Top scouting there.

[SaintK]

Not quite sure how strong Leciester are this season after all the personnel changes, but that was an ominous looking performance from Saracens.

Some re-evaluation of players will be required I suspect. And maybe some humble pie consumed.

Theo McFarland is some player though. Top scouting there.

I thought Sarries were outstanding from front to back.
Nick Kennedy deserves a pay rise for spotting the poteential in McFarland

[Oxbow]

Got Covid, put the rugby on to cheer myself up, Saints decide to leave about five tries out there. Same old. Cracking game at least.

[JM2K6]

Yeah, Saints will be kicking themselves. Quins' number one problem at the moment is the lack of players who can stop big ball runners on the gain line. No Lewies, Esterhuizen, Dombrandt, or Lawday means we're giving up ground constantly. Also shows what we're going to miss with Tizard gone.

Still, a win's a win. Being one win from 4 would not have been a fair reflection of how we've played so far this season.

[Kawazaki]

Quins should buy the ref and TMO a few pints after that. It's be fairly pissed off if I were a Saints fan.

[JM2K6]

Why? The ref did them plenty of favours. Saints lost that because of their own inadequate handling skills.

[Kawazaki]

Ludlum scored a (second) try. There was nothing wrong with that.

[JM2K6]

Apart from being held and stopped with no momentum on the floor, before lurching forward with his knees to place it.

[Kawazaki]

Apart from being held and stopped with no momentum on the floor, before lurching forward with his knees to place it.

Nah, he made one movement to place the ball. They kept reviewing in slow motion which was ridiculous. I think he was tripped as well in the lead up.

And then we had to watch Marler blocking and leaning into Ludlam's face waving his finger when he wanted to talk to the ref.

[JM2K6]

Apart from being held and stopped with no momentum on the floor, before lurching forward with his knees to place it.

Nah, he made one movement to place the ball. They kept reviewing in slow motion which was ridiculous. I think he was tripped as well in the lead up.

And then we had to watch Marler blocking and leaning into Ludlam's face waving his finger when he wanted to talk to the ref.

I agree viewing those in real time should be de rigeur. Not a howler though.

Ludlam spent most of the match screaming at the ref and begging for yellow cards, so it's funny to have a pop at Marler

[Kawazaki]

Marler is a proper nowadays.

[JM2K6]

Sure thing Toga

[Kawazaki]

Marler is at least at Itoje clapping levels of annoying but without the compensatory benefit of being one of the best players on the pitch anymore.

[JM2K6]

Everyone appreciates how hard you're trying.

[Margin__Walker]

[JM2K6]

Bad news for England, George has started the season brilliantly. Excited to see what Radwan can do in the front row though

[Kawazaki]

Everyone appreciates how hard you're trying.

You think everyone thinks Marler is a great bloke. That's cute.

[JM2K6]

Everyone appreciates how hard you're trying.

You think everyone thinks Marler is a great bloke. That's cute.

[Margin__Walker]

Exodus (loan initially) begins from Worcester with Ted Hill, Ollie Lawrence, Fergus Lee-Warner and Valery Morozov all heading to Bath by all accounts.

[Kawazaki]

Exodus (loan initially) begins from Worcester with Ted Hill, Ollie Lawrence, Fergus Lee-Warner and Valery Morozov all heading to Bath by all accounts.

Christ, haven't those poor bastards been through enough already?

[Margin__Walker]

Exodus (loan initially) begins from Worcester with Ted Hill, Ollie Lawrence, Fergus Lee-Warner and Valery Morozov all heading to Bath by all accounts.

Christ, haven't those poor bastards been through enough already?

Yeah, frying pan to the fire territory.

Job's a job I guess

At least Farleigh House seems a nice relaxing environment.

[Kawazaki]

Look at the Quins no.16 - this is a Northampton penalty try and a YC for the reserve hooker. Every time. Instead, they penalise Ludlam for a double-movement! He fell short of the line because the Quins player sacked him! This is dogshit work by the TMO and the ref should have seen it as well.

[JM2K6]

He very clearly doesn't sack him. He gets up and is heading back to the line before Ludlam even starts to hit the deck. It's the weight of two other Quins plus a Saints player plus his own attempt to go for the line that sees the 'collapse'

Also probably worth mentioning that Ludlam was available to be hit when he broke off, because Riley was able to hit him directly as Ludlam's one teammate wasn't enough. No ref is going to worry too much about an attempted tackle there.

[Kawazaki]

FFS, he clearly lifts his left leg up!



p.s Ludlum is clearly still bound onto Iyogun and Coles, he hasn't broken away on his own. That was still a maul.

[JM2K6]

The 500kg of downward pressure on him and his attempt to go for the line is what causes the collapse. He doesn't head downward until after Riley has released and when the big Saints guy comes in to push it over the line. He makes more ground after Riley gets up.

Besides, Ludlam chose to break away with a single player for support and got hit directly because there was no way to properly screen him. Refs are always going to treat that scenario as a free-for-all. Could a ref had made that call the way you think? Of course. Many of these calls are subjective. Was that an obvious error? Also no. Does Ludlam hit the deck short of the line, then propel himself with his knees to place the ball? Yes.

I can point to several occasions where arguable decisions against us led to points being conceded. That's how the sport is played.

p.s. He's not bound on to Iyogun (and Iyogun isn't bound onto him) when they detach.

[Kawazaki]

Worth bookmarking this for when you whine that Quins have had a decision go against them.

You're talking our of your hole regards why Ludlam went over and you know it. He was clearly tripped up by the Quins no.16, it's as clear as day.

[SaintK]

FFS, he clearly lifts his left leg up!



p.s Ludlum is clearly still bound onto Iyogun and Coles, he hasn't broken away on his own. That was still a maul.

50/50 call
Saints butchered pl.enty of other opportunities to win the match

[Kawazaki]

FFS, he clearly lifts his left leg up!



p.s Ludlum is clearly still bound onto Iyogun and Coles, he hasn't broken away on his own. That was still a maul.

50/50 call
Saints butchered pl.enty of other opportunities to win the match

I thought in real time it was 50/50 but on review there was a clear penalty offence that caused Ludlam to fall short which is why he made the move he did. TMOs have to be better than this.

[JM2K6]

Worth bookmarking this for when you whine that Quins have had a decision go against them.

You're talking our of your hole regards why Ludlam went over and you know it. He was clearly tripped up by the Quins no.16, it's as clear as day.

It's a trip now is it?

It was such a chaotic thing that even Iyogun clearly thought it wasn't a maul, because he ran past Ludlam onto the Quins tryline and just blocked Quins defenders

You can bookmark what you like. It's not like it'll stop you from doing your bit whenever Quins are playing. Like I said, I can see a ref calling it the way you saw it. You desperately want it to be a howler and for Quins to have only won because of the ref, much like how last week you were the only person defending the ref's decisions that went against Quins and cost them the game. No-one is fooled by your pretence at neutrality when it comes to Quins, and it's not like you need an elephant's memory to remember the extended whining over decisions that have gone against Saracens.

There are posters on here who are very fair minded when it comes to refereeing decisions. I will happily agree they are fairer than me. You are most definitely not one of them