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Hal Jordan wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 4:06 pm Sadly, Braverman still got the poison pill of the police being able to come down on anybody even considering a protest like a ton of bricks through in last night's vote. They love free speech, the Tories.
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Tory backbencher (Charles Walker) calling the right-wingers out live on BBC now. He's absolutely livid, and calling out 'talentless' people.

And I forgot to get popcorn :(
Over the hills and far away........
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The Mother of All Parliaments appears to be suffering from dementia.
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salanya wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:47 pm Tory backbencher (Charles Walker) calling the right-wingers out live on BBC now. He's absolutely livid, and calling out 'talentless' people.

And I forgot to get popcorn :(
Wow

And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Shit ... I need to pop out for a bottle of nice gin for this shitshow! Not sure I can survive Newsnight without some stiff G&Ts and some popcorn. If this wasn't directly resulting in thousands of poor folk, disabled folk and pensioners struggling in the cold and without heating and food it would almost be enjoyable. these bastards deserve all they get, cnuts of the lowest order.
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If MPs were manhandled in the act of voting, that must be not just a suspension, & investigation in the Parliament; but in most Democracys, interferring with a Public Representative is a criminal offence, & carries a custodial sentance.

It's beyond shocking that anyone should think it acceptable outside of a tin pot Dictatorship

[Edit] Opposition should just go for it, & table a Confidence vote in the Government tomorrow. Fuck it, make the pricks vote for her & this shitshow, & have it on the record !!!
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Kwasi Kwarteng, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel, Nadine Dorries, Theresa May all voted against the motion. Would be funny if Truss suspends them all to be fair. Like when Johnson sacked Gove as a last hurrah.
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remarkable stuff
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:26 pm Kwasi Kwarteng, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel, Nadine Dorries, Theresa May all voted against the motion. Would be funny if Truss suspends them all to be fair. Like when Johnson sacked Gove as a last hurrah.
No they didn’t. They didn’t vote at all, which is not quite the same thing, although the whips had previously threatened to throw out anyone who abstained, as well as those actively voting against the Govt. Incidentally, Truss didn’t vote either, so perhaps she’ll kick herself out of the party.
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Comments suggesting he has passed photos to the Dept Speaker.

JRM & Coffey should be suspended immediately
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Biffer wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:00 pm
salanya wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 6:47 pm Tory backbencher (Charles Walker) calling the right-wingers out live on BBC now. He's absolutely livid, and calling out 'talentless' people.

And I forgot to get popcorn :(
Wow

For a speech about his colleagues putting their career above national interest he does mention the interest he has in his friends keeping their jobs quite a lot doesn't he.
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Lobby wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:32 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:26 pm Kwasi Kwarteng, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel, Nadine Dorries, Theresa May all voted against the motion. Would be funny if Truss suspends them all to be fair. Like when Johnson sacked Gove as a last hurrah.
No they didn’t. They didn’t vote at all, which is not quite the same thing, although the whips had previously threatened to throw out anyone who abstained, as well as those actively voting against the Govt. Incidentally, Truss didn’t vote either, so perhaps she’ll kick herself out of the party.
Oh that's shame. Truss resigning and kicking herself out of the party is the smart choice for her.
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:36 pm
Lobby wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:32 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:26 pm Kwasi Kwarteng, Boris Johnson, Priti Patel, Nadine Dorries, Theresa May all voted against the motion. Would be funny if Truss suspends them all to be fair. Like when Johnson sacked Gove as a last hurrah.
No they didn’t. They didn’t vote at all, which is not quite the same thing, although the whips had previously threatened to throw out anyone who abstained, as well as those actively voting against the Govt. Incidentally, Truss didn’t vote either, so perhaps she’ll kick herself out of the party.
Oh that's shame. Truss resigning and kicking herself out of the party is the smart choice for her.

Apparently Truss missed the vote because she was dealing with the resignations of the Chief Whip and Deputy Chief Whip.
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Settled in for the night - gin bought and popcorn in a bowl - watching Man Utd v Tottenham as a warm up - roll on the news!

Edit: Just caught Krishnan from C4 calling Steve Baker a Cnut on twitter - brilliant. Tonights news coverage is surely worth a BAFTA?
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Was the word; Cunt, Krishnan ?

If so, it was certainly not, in any way, out of line, just understandable in the presence of such an odious, lying ball of intolerance & vileness.
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dpedin wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:46 pm Settled in for the night - gin bought and popcorn in a bowl - watching Man Utd v Tottenham as a warm up - roll on the news!
I think the guy doing the newsflash ticker on Sky, has gone home sick with carpal tunnel after the day so far...
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Lobby wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:42 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:36 pm
Lobby wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:32 pm

No they didn’t. They didn’t vote at all, which is not quite the same thing, although the whips had previously threatened to throw out anyone who abstained, as well as those actively voting against the Govt. Incidentally, Truss didn’t vote either, so perhaps she’ll kick herself out of the party.
Oh that's shame. Truss resigning and kicking herself out of the party is the smart choice for her.

Apparently Truss missed the vote because she was dealing with the resignations of the Chief Whip and Deputy Chief Whip.
The Whips didn't vote either. Utterly clueless leadership - why create such a mess over a vote they were hardly likely to lose anyway - even with all those not voting they had a 96 majority.
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Ovals wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:51 pm
Lobby wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:42 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:36 pm

Oh that's shame. Truss resigning and kicking herself out of the party is the smart choice for her.

Apparently Truss missed the vote because she was dealing with the resignations of the Chief Whip and Deputy Chief Whip.
The Whips didn't vote either. Utterly clueless leadership - why create such a mess over a vote they were hardly likely to lose anyway - even with all those not voting they had a 96 majority.
I guess because Truss made such a song and dance about fracking it's at least something to point to as an achievement.

It's getting quite hard to see how the next PM isn't Johnson. The rabidly Tory outriders such as Guido and Haywood are saying. Won't be long before Choppers gets in on the action too.
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Poster of this tweet has no special inside info I'm sure but would be kinda funny if true

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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:34 pm Comments suggesting he has passed photos to the Dept Speaker.

JRM & Coffey should be suspended immediately

Looks like he has.

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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:03 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:34 pm Comments suggesting he has passed photos to the Dept Speaker.

JRM & Coffey should be suspended immediately

Looks like he has.

Very hard to see any actual evidence of anything here. Also he'll get in trouble for posting pictures in the lobby you'd think.
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:05 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:03 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:34 pm Comments suggesting he has passed photos to the Dept Speaker.

JRM & Coffey should be suspended immediately

Looks like he has.

Very hard to see any actual evidence of anything here. Also he'll get in trouble for posting pictures in the lobby you'd think.
Aren't Whistleblowers protected ?

He can make a legitimate case that he needed to take the photo, to correctly identify the guilty parties, & make sure of his facts.
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How are they doing this with an 80 odd seat majority? Every time I go away and check back the pack of incompetent morons have reached some new milestone. :eek:
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_Os_ wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:14 pm How are they doing this with an 80 odd seat majority? Every time I go away and check back the pack of incompetent morons have reached some new milestone. :eek:
It's down to 69 as of yesterday, with the by-elections, suspensions, defections, etc, etc

Todays events could well lead to a few more defections, if nothing else
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Charles Walker MP (com) absolutely losing it on BBC news. So angry he looked like he was going to cry.

“Hope those people that backed Truss so they could get to hold a red box and sit round the cabinet table are now happy”

“This is what happens when talentless people are promoted”
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:03 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:34 pm Comments suggesting he has passed photos to the Dept Speaker.

JRM & Coffey should be suspended immediately

Looks like he has.

Hope that he has more to back up his claims though, as this shows nothing conclusive.
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Slick wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:17 pm Charles Walker MP (com) absolutely losing it on BBC news. So angry he looked like he was going to cry.

“Hope those people that backed Truss so they could get to hold a red box and sit round the cabinet table are now happy”

“This is what happens when talentless people are promoted”
Apologies, thought I was watching it live
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Meanwhile one loyal Tory MP says this is all Labour's doing in trying to destabilize the Government and take over Parliament....

No-one could make this shit up :bimbo:
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:13 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:05 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:03 pm


Looks like he has.

Very hard to see any actual evidence of anything here. Also he'll get in trouble for posting pictures in the lobby you'd think.
Aren't Whistleblowers protected ?

He can make a legitimate case that he needed to take the photo, to correctly identify the guilty parties, & make sure of his facts.
But he's not done that. It's a picture that shows Coffey and Rees-Mogg and some confused/mildly shocked Tories but nothing more.
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:32 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:13 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:05 pm

Very hard to see any actual evidence of anything here. Also he'll get in trouble for posting pictures in the lobby you'd think.
Aren't Whistleblowers protected ?

He can make a legitimate case that he needed to take the photo, to correctly identify the guilty parties, & make sure of his facts.
But he's not done that. It's a picture that shows Coffey and Rees-Mogg and some confused/mildly shocked Tories but nothing more.
His account has been corroborated by other MPs though, & this all happened contemporaneously, so it's not like he thought; "I'll just take a snap, so I make up a story about MPs being bullied to vote".

There's dozens of people in that pic, & there were hundreds of others going thru to vote, so the Speaker isn't going to have a hard time getting MPs to confirm or deny the story; & it's not like the last allegations of Whips going beyond the acceptable is in the dim & distant past. :roll:

And then we have the assessment of the now Ex Deputy Chief Whip

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Reportedly the Chief Whip and Deputy have "unresigned"

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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 7:47 pm

Was the word; Cunt, Krishnan ?

If so, it was certainly not, in any way, out of line, just understandable in the presence of such an odious, lying ball of intolerance & vileness.
I honestly didn't know that was what he'd actually called him when I posted this; so I'm obviously delighted that even someone as errudite, as Krishnan struggles to come up with anything else when faced with such a loathsome creature.

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Even Dick and Dom are after them now

And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:43 pm
I like neeps wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:32 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 8:13 pm

Aren't Whistleblowers protected ?

He can make a legitimate case that he needed to take the photo, to correctly identify the guilty parties, & make sure of his facts.
But he's not done that. It's a picture that shows Coffey and Rees-Mogg and some confused/mildly shocked Tories but nothing more.
His account has been corroborated by other MPs though, & this all happened contemporaneously, so it's not like he thought; "I'll just take a snap, so I make up a story about MPs being bullied to vote".

There's dozens of people in that pic, & there were hundreds of others going thru to vote, so the Speaker isn't going to have a hard time getting MPs to confirm or deny the story; & it's not like the last allegations of Whips going beyond the acceptable is in the dim & distant past. :roll:

And then we have the assessment of the now Ex Deputy Chief Whip

No 10 reporting they've both unresigned (as of 22:34).

I suppose that means that they'll both be in the HoL, after Dizzys Honours list at the end of the week ?
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Back in the cabinet for two days and it’s already Jeremy Cunt again on broadcast TV

And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Biffer wrote: Wed Oct 19, 2022 11:15 pm Back in the cabinet for two days and it’s already Jeremy Cunt again on broadcast TV

He did have Steve Baker in the studio with him to be fair .....
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The whole structure of the Tory Party is breaking apart
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40 Tory MPS failed to vote last night reportedly
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