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I like neeps wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 5:45 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 8:48 am I don't hold the antipathy towards Chris Harris that some seem to, but at some point I'd like to see Price, Kinghorn, van der Merwe, Redpath, Bennett, Graham & Hogg given a run.
I agree but I suspect there'll be one of Redpath/Bennett and one of Tuipolotu/Harris. That backline with the exception of Duhan is maybe a wee bit lightweight when the focus is on Ireland and SA.

I think we’ll see Tuipulotu and Bennett in the centres this weekend, if Bennett really states his case he will be difficult to drop, he’ll be up against a couple of big units
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Story on the BBC that Russell’s ‘Scotland career could be over’ after Toony left him out. Well, there’s that weasel word ‘could’ again, which only means that what follows isn’t actually impossible. Toony ‘could’ call me up to play 10 tomorrow, but that doesn’t mean it’s remotely plausible.
Plus Hastings has been left out for a while and now is back in favour. Apart from anything else, barring a massive change in our fortunes, I can’t see Toony still being our coach after the RWC.
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Yr Alban wrote: Mon Oct 24, 2022 10:27 pm Story on the BBC that Russell’s ‘Scotland career could be over’ after Toony left him out. Well, there’s that weasel word ‘could’ again, which only means that what follows isn’t actually impossible. Toony ‘could’ call me up to play 10 tomorrow, but that doesn’t mean it’s remotely plausible.
Plus Hastings has been left out for a while and now is back in favour. Apart from anything else, barring a massive change in our fortunes, I can’t see Toony still being our coach after the RWC.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/63370935


The article is pretty much just the opinion of Peter Wright - "could" "reading between the lines"

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That's not to say Finn will definitely play for Scotland again, but Wright should think twice before saying shite like that. The journalists don't give a fuck, they will print anything, the more contentious the better, Wright should know better, he could - there's that word, but he could be fanning flames, in fact the comments under the article show that he is doing just that
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So Redpath and Bayliss are on a bye week with Bath so get the benefit of the week in Scotland camp. Not able to play at the weekend due ti PRL.
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Is the team announced today?
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Big D wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:47 am So Redpath and Bayliss are on a bye week with Bath so get the benefit of the week in Scotland camp. Not able to play at the weekend due ti PRL.

I saw an SRU photo on twitter of Chris Harris in the camp, yet Glaws are playing on Friday.
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Tichtheid wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 9:00 am
Big D wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:47 am So Redpath and Bayliss are on a bye week with Bath so get the benefit of the week in Scotland camp. Not able to play at the weekend due ti PRL.

I saw an SRU photo on twitter of Chris Harris in the camp, yet Glaws are playing on Friday.
He'll probably go back down today or tomorrow.
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Cracking picture here of Finns pass at the weekend.
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Ciaran Beattie is to oversee the GB7s mens and womans programmes.

Scottish influence in the 16 man mens squad. Robbie Fergusson (player/coach for both M&W), Kaleem Barreto, Jamie Farndale, Paddy Kelly Ross McCann and Max McFarland with Freddie Roddick, who played in the Premiership with Musselburgh whilst studying at Heriot Watt University, and Tom Williams, who played for Ayrshire Bulls involved too.
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Slick wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:54 am Is the team announced today?
Announced at 2.30 today
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westport wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:35 am
Slick wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:54 am Is the team announced today?
Announced at 2.30 today

I don't imagine there will be too many surprises, it'll be Turner or Cherry to start, though I really like Ashman. Fullback is an interesting choice, we could start Kinghorn there and Thompson at ten but I don't think we'll do that, it's more likely to be Kinghorn at ten and Smith at FB.
Scrum half sub is another question, it's been great to see Wee Dod back in form, I haven't really seen much of White so far this season. Steyn for centre cover?
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:36 pm
westport wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:35 am
Slick wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:54 am Is the team announced today?
Announced at 2.30 today

I don't imagine there will be too many surprises, it'll be Turner or Cherry to start, though I really like Ashman. Fullback is an interesting choice, we could start Kinghorn there and Thompson at ten but I don't think we'll do that, it's more likely to be Kinghorn at ten and Smith at FB.
Scrum half sub is another question, it's been great to see Wee Dod back in form, I haven't really seen much of White so far this season. Steyn for centre cover?
Steyn is playing for Glasgow this weekend.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 12:36 pm
westport wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 9:35 am
Slick wrote: Wed Oct 26, 2022 8:54 am Is the team announced today?
Announced at 2.30 today

I don't imagine there will be too many surprises, it'll be Turner or Cherry to start, though I really like Ashman. Fullback is an interesting choice, we could start Kinghorn there and Thompson at ten but I don't think we'll do that, it's more likely to be Kinghorn at ten and Smith at FB.
Scrum half sub is another question, it's been great to see Wee Dod back in form, I haven't really seen much of White so far this season. Steyn for centre cover?
Really hope it's Kinghorn 10 and Smith at fullback. If we are going to persist with Kinghorn at 10 then he has to start this game against decent quality opposition and I really have high hopes for Smith and he needs games like this
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There we go.

Very decent looking team although I worry slightly about the backs if Oz get a lot of ball.
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I missed Young being called up due to Cummings breaking a toe.

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Jock42 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:01 pm I missed Young being called up due to Cummings breaking a toe.

I am clearly out of touch - who is Ben Young? Worth his place? What is the bored's opinion?
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So Russell and Hogg punished for 6N escapade but Price gets off with no punishment.

Obviously no inside knowledge on what happened but from the available accounts Hogg and Price were equally culpable yet Price retains a leadership role?

Team as expected really given injuries and players unavailable.
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Plays for Edinburgh and has been good. I'm sure he was capped in Argentina.
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Jock42 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:21 pm Plays for Edinburgh and has been good. I'm sure he was capped in Argentina.
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S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:28 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:21 pm Plays for Edinburgh and has been good. I'm sure he was capped in Argentina.
:thumbup: Ta
Glen, not Ben, by the way
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S/Lt_Phillips wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:07 pm
Jock42 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:01 pm I missed Young being called up due to Cummings breaking a toe.

I am clearly out of touch - who is Ben Young? Worth his place? What is the bored's opinion?

Glen Young, from the Borders, had a couple of seasons at Newcastle, then Quins where he had a fairly regular game off the bench. He joined Edinburgh at the beginning of last season, Embra have a pool of locks which is becoming really quite strong. He's big, rangy and is pacey enough to cover 6 if necessary

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With all the usual caveats of a coach talking about his own player, Mike Blair on Kinghorn

https://edinburghrugby.org/the-clubhous ... -momentum/
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:36 pm With all the usual caveats of a coach talking about his own player, Mike Blair on Kinghorn

https://edinburghrugby.org/the-clubhous ... -momentum/
As I've said a couple of times, this is the standout change for me:
He started to understand the responsibility he has, not just on the pitch but in terms of how you plan the week, how you get the most out of the players around you and how you communicate with them
His interview near the end of last season where he said he knew he drifted in and out of games and his mind wandered was a real turn around in that respect.

He's still not a 10 though.
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Big D wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:19 pm So Russell and Hogg punished for 6N escapade but Price gets off with no punishment.

Obviously no inside knowledge on what happened but from the available accounts Hogg and Price were equally culpable yet Price retains a leadership role?

Team as expected really given injuries and players unavailable.
The Edinburgh 6 wouldn't face any real punishment because they're too good. Russell and Townsend don't like each other and haven't for a while, it seemed untenable if Russell doesn't listen. Also Hogg as captain failed to set standards - also there was ongoing should he be captain as was really the only option with Ritchie ear marked as Scotland captain since he was what 17? So I think both moves makes sense.
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Slick wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:59 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:36 pm With all the usual caveats of a coach talking about his own player, Mike Blair on Kinghorn

https://edinburghrugby.org/the-clubhous ... -momentum/
As I've said a couple of times, this is the standout change for me:
He started to understand the responsibility he has, not just on the pitch but in terms of how you plan the week, how you get the most out of the players around you and how you communicate with them
His interview near the end of last season where he said he knew he drifted in and out of games and his mind wandered was a real turn around in that respect.

He's still not a 10 though.
Yes he is, he's playing there on Saturday against the Wallabies.

btw, did you take part in a RNLI fundraising thing with the Edinburgh Blue Balls?

My hometown lifeboat FB page just posted about it, a good few of my mates from school crewed the lifeboat, they're fishermen.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:24 pm
Slick wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:59 pm
Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:36 pm With all the usual caveats of a coach talking about his own player, Mike Blair on Kinghorn

https://edinburghrugby.org/the-clubhous ... -momentum/
As I've said a couple of times, this is the standout change for me:
He started to understand the responsibility he has, not just on the pitch but in terms of how you plan the week, how you get the most out of the players around you and how you communicate with them
His interview near the end of last season where he said he knew he drifted in and out of games and his mind wandered was a real turn around in that respect.

He's still not a 10 though.
Yes he is, he's playing there on Saturday against the Wallabies.

btw, did you take part in a RNLI fundraising thing with the Edinburgh Blue Balls?

My hometown lifeboat FB page just posted about it, a good few of my mates from school crewed the lifeboat, they're fishermen.
Yes I did!

A Blueballer drowned a few weeks ago out in East Lothian while swimming with another group and getting caught in a rip. The RNLI guys managed to get the rest of the group but unfortunately not him. We had a group fundraiser for them, and they came down on Sunday and did an open water safety brief after the dip. Tremendous guys, I'm full of admiration.

I've now been put in charge of organising an annual fundraiser!
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I like neeps wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:24 pm
Big D wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 2:19 pm So Russell and Hogg punished for 6N escapade but Price gets off with no punishment.

Obviously no inside knowledge on what happened but from the available accounts Hogg and Price were equally culpable yet Price retains a leadership role?

Team as expected really given injuries and players unavailable.
The Edinburgh 6 wouldn't face any real punishment because they're too good. Russell and Townsend don't like each other and haven't for a while, it seemed untenable if Russell doesn't listen. Also Hogg as captain failed to set standards - also there was ongoing should he be captain as was really the only option with Ritchie ear marked as Scotland captain since he was what 17? So I think both moves makes sense.
Price was and continues to be part of the leadership group which GT put enough faith in to say that group set the rules that Finn initially rebelled against. A VC and leadership group member with 50 caps is part of the group setting standards.

If Hogg was punished so should Price. That isn't a reflection of whether Ritchie as captain makes sense or not, Price could be captain on Saturday at somepoint.

Perfect time to bin the stupid two vice captains too.
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Slick wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 3:47 pm
Yes I did!

A Blueballer drowned a few weeks ago out in East Lothian while swimming with another group and getting caught in a rip. The RNLI guys managed to get the rest of the group but unfortunately not him. We had a group fundraiser for them, and they came down on Sunday and did an open water safety brief after the dip. Tremendous guys, I'm full of admiration.

I've now been put in charge of organising an annual fundraiser!

Aye, I read the story, tragic.

The beaches in East Lothian are beautiful, but the tides can be very dangerous.

I hope the fund-raising goes well, the RNLI do a fantastic job
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Is Hogg not with Exeter this weekend?

I assume Ollie Smith got in as he is pretty the only SQ Scottish based FB, though I'd have started Hoyland who has not let Edinburgh down when playing from 12..
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weegie01 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:23 pm Is Hogg not with Exeter this weekend?

I assume Ollie Smith got in as he is pretty the only SQ Scottish based FB, though I'd have started Hoyland who has not let Edinburgh down when playing from 12..
Yes. Though went off with a slight knock to the leg last week against Saracens
I assume that Gray, Ashman and Maitland would be in camp if this match wasn't outside the window?
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SaintK wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:35 pm
weegie01 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:23 pm Is Hogg not with Exeter this weekend?

I assume Ollie Smith got in as he is pretty the only SQ Scottish based FB, though I'd have started Hoyland who has not let Edinburgh down when playing from 12..
Yes. Though went off with a slight knock to the leg last week against Saracens
I assume that Gray, Ashman and Maitland would be in camp if this match wasn't outside the window?

Gray and Ashman yes, I'm not sure about Maitland now. He's 34, great player, but his international race might be run, he's not getting in ahead of Graham and van der Merwe on the wing, we are hoping for big things from young Ollie Smith at fullback. Darcy Graham and Rufus McLean can cover fullback as well wing, as can Blair Kinghorn.
Huw Jones isn't a stranger to 15 either.

You never know though, I was always, and continue to be, a huge fan of Maitland, he's great rugby player, if you know what I mean, his positioning is top class, he might have lost a yard, but his nous carries him through.
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Tichtheid wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 5:02 pm
SaintK wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:35 pm
weegie01 wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 4:23 pm Is Hogg not with Exeter this weekend?

I assume Ollie Smith got in as he is pretty the only SQ Scottish based FB, though I'd have started Hoyland who has not let Edinburgh down when playing from 12..
Yes. Though went off with a slight knock to the leg last week against Saracens
I assume that Gray, Ashman and Maitland would be in camp if this match wasn't outside the window?

Gray and Ashman yes, I'm not sure about Maitland now. He's 34, great player, but his international race might be run, he's not getting in ahead of Graham and van der Merwe on the wing, we are hoping for big things from young Ollie Smith at fullback. Darcy Graham and Rufus McLean can cover fullback as well wing, as can Blair Kinghorn.
Huw Jones isn't a stranger to 15 either.

You never know though, I was always, and continue to be, a huge fan of Maitland, he's great rugby player, if you know what I mean, his positioning is top class, he might have lost a yard, but his nous carries him through.
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Watched the Racing game last night. Russell was the most influential player on the pitch by a country mile. Dear oh dear
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Edinburgh Rugby team to face Cardiff Rugby at Cardiff Arms Park in the BKT United Rugby Championship
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Kiran McDonald ha picked up a gif at Munster following the demise of Wasps. Not done too badly there IMO.
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KingBlairhorn wrote: Fri Oct 28, 2022 11:40 am Kiran McDonald ha picked up a gif at Munster following the demise of Wasps. Not done too badly there IMO.
That was meant to be gig btw. Munster may or may not create a gif of him.
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It’s tough to complain about a 37-0 win….but, my god did Glasgow leave some scores out there. They will need to be much more ruthless against the best sides if they want to be competitive.

Still, nice to see a bit of the old Glasgow back, Franco Smith seems to be bringing back a bit of the old jeux de vie.

Alex Samuel is a big lad isn’t he. Only 19 still apparently, he’ll be one to watch.
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LenCohen wrote: Thu Oct 27, 2022 8:45 pm Watched the Racing game last night. Russell was the most influential player on the pitch by a country mile. Dear oh dear
Yeah. He was superb against MH. But that's classic Flake: brilliant in 1 game....... but he's been largely dogsh*t the rest of this season which reflects in Racing's performances and position.
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