The Official F1 Thread

[Guy Smiley]

Merc were the winners last time there was a major technical revision, remember? There split turbo design gave them a massive power advantage and they dominated for years.

It goes like that sometimes.

What we’ve seen this year has been bungling at every key point in the season from the FIA, on top of the farce last year at Abu Dhabi. That was Masi deciding the championship on the back of his own fucked up decision that gifted RB the win. This year the difficulties around the new tech rules (the bouncing) and the Technical Directions made over that have resulted in confusion. The design concept is the brainchild of a guy who has had close working relationship with the dominant team… not a real good look. On top of all that, we should have had a ruling released this last week over budget cap regulation and possible breaches… but the announcement has been mysteriously delayed leading to widespread speculation in the paddock that only adds to the air of amateurish mishandling that pervades the season.

It’s a fucking mess and for all the talk of moving forward and positive change, the same old same old cloak and dagger is still the mode of operation. They are cooking the golden goose.

[Kawazaki]

The design concept is the brainchild of a guy who has had close working relationship with the dominant team… not a real good look.

Who is/was that? Pat Symonds? I didn't know he was ex-Red Bull?

[sefton]

So will Verstappen ever win a clean title?

[Slick]

Is the dark haired woman celebrating with Max his girlfriend or mum? I would either way, she just looks a bit older than him

[Thor Sedan]

F*ck F1's bollock rulings and shit car set ups.

F*ck Max arrogant twatstappen and his self entitled shithousery.

F*ck Mercedes for being completely rubbish in the development process.

F*ck Ferrari for being absolutely useless as the next best challenger.

This has been hands down the worst season of F1 for an age. Even when Merc were in their pomp the races were offering some intrigue.

The Merc era had intrigue? When they won every race by 40s and could afford to run detuned engines for quali? Please tell me abou the "intrigue".

There was some real drama with the dynamics of Hamilton and his teammates - particularly Rosberg. Ferrari and Red Bull had some proper ding dongs with Hamilton and Mercedes - particularly Vettel.

Yes the Merc was a better car and Hamilton easily one of the best drivers - but ultimately the seasons were interesting.

This season has been a boring procession spearheaded by an arrogant twunt of a man driving and a devious little punk heading the team.

Am I correct in my summary - Not. A. Chance. In. Hell.

Is my argument logically solid - no way.

Do I despise Muck Twatcrappen and revert to being a childish little tantrum throwing arse when I discuss him - absolutely. He comes from the ballsack of a POS and I will cheer anyone who competes against him.

[Insane_Homer]

Crofty at the start all prepared for all outcomes regarding points/half points etc etc - then like everyone else missed that Max was champ.

Decent enough race once they finally got going. Merc straight line speed was laughable with Lewis unable to get past Ocon. Max was just supreme. Le Clerc fudging into the final chicane was just the Ferrari thing to do, so no real surprise there. Alonso v Vettel for the line was epic.
Mick leading the race for about 250 meters was epic!
Amongst all the carnage, Latifi got 9th and 2 points finishing ahead of both Mclarens.
Quit nice not having Toto there, bodes well for next season.

Tractor and marshal being on track (parked on the racing line no less) with cars still circulating in those conditions was a disaster waiting to happen and shows the fuckers have learnt nothing since Jules death.

[Insane_Homer]

[Thor Sedan]

So judging that talks of fines or documented warnings will be the only punishments.....essentially Red Bull have gained enough advantage to win a controversial championship and a one horse race championship.

It shouldn't matter if you are $10 over or 10 million over. The cap is a cap and EVERY other team stuck to the it.

What is the point of having a cap if one team is allowed to exceed it?

[Insane_Homer]

I think RB did rather well to keep it that close considering the unforseen additional hugely expensive crashes thanks to Mercedes, when Hamilton put Max in into the wall at Silverstone, writing off that car and the huge bills for Bottas smashing both RBs in Hungary. not to mention the huge points swing from both events. but you know RB "gained enough advantage to win a controversial championship"

[Guy Smiley]

How much did they spend on this...?

[Thor Sedan]

I think RB did rather well to keep it that close considering the unforseen additional hugely expensive crashes thanks to Mercedes, when Hamilton put Max in into the wall at Silverstone, writing off that car and the huge bills for Bottas smashing both RBs in Hungary. not to mention the huge points swing from both events. but you know RB "gained enough advantage to win a controversial championship"

Did they go over the cap? If that isn't an issue then why bother with a cap?

[JM2K6]

What a strange argument. Racing incidents cost RB money? They cost Mercedes money too. Going over the cap is a deliberate choice, though.

[charltom]

I think RB did rather well to keep it that close considering the unforseen additional hugely expensive crashes thanks to Mercedes, when Hamilton put Max in into the wall at Silverstone, writing off that car and the huge bills for Bottas smashing both RBs in Hungary. not to mention the huge points swing from both events. but you know RB "gained enough advantage to win a controversial championship"

Did they go over the cap? If that isn't an issue then why bother with a cap?

I must admit that, when they found a way to make Max 2022 champion on Sunday without even him knowing, that it was simply a way of ensuring that he had a championship before they took his 2021 crown away because of the cap related announcement. I don't have a clue how they can say that RB exceeded the cap but don't punish them by, say, deleting the result of the race(s) after the cap was exceeded. It just makes a mockery of the cap.

[mos_eisely_]

What a strange argument. Racing incidents cost RB money? They cost Mercedes money too. Going over the cap is a deliberate choice, though.

And costs incurred repairing damaged cars etc. isn't part of the cap

[Dinsdale Piranha]

I think RB did rather well to keep it that close considering the unforseen additional hugely expensive crashes thanks to Mercedes, when Hamilton put Max in into the wall at Silverstone, writing off that car and the huge bills for Bottas smashing both RBs in Hungary. not to mention the huge points swing from both events. but you know RB "gained enough advantage to win a controversial championship"

Did they go over the cap? If that isn't an issue then why bother with a cap?

I just admit that, when they found a way to make Max 2022 champion on Sunday without even him knowing, that it was simply a way of ensuring that he had a championship before they took his 2021 crown away because of the cap related announcement. I don't have a clue how they can say that RB exceeded the cap but don't punish them by, say, deleting the result of the race(s) after the cap was exceeded. It just makes a mockery of the cap.

It's about as well enforced at FFP in football is. Maybe they find a sucker to take a technical infringement occasionally but it's all theatre.

[Grandpa]

Thanks Toga..

[Slick]

That's good.

[Insane_Homer]

There have been rumours that Red Bull’s overspend related to minor financial matters including catering and sick pay, but new reports suggest that chief technical officer Newey is at the centre of the dispute.

The claim was initially made by Germany’s authoritative Auto Motor und Sport, and now the Dutch broadcaster Ziggo Sport agrees that the breach “involves Adrian Newey”.

“Newey is one of the team’s highest paid employees and there is some debate as to whether he is a Red Bull employee or if the contract is with Adrian’s company,” the broadcaster said.

“Red Bull claims that he works directly for the team, so according to the rules he is not included in the spending limit. The FIA does not agree with this as he is engaged via his firm, and this means he does not fall under the exceptions to the limit.”

[fishfoodie]

Stroll should cop a few weeks on the sidelines for that; incredibly dangerous late move

[Guy Smiley]

Stroll should cop a few weeks on the sidelines for that; incredibly dangerous late move

Yup. Alonso very lucky to just drive away from that.

[Insane_Homer]

Alonso loses 7th, drops to 15th after protest from Haas regarding loose bodywork damage.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... c9R9V.html

[fishfoodie]

Alonso loses 7th, drops to 15th after protest from Haas regarding loose bodywork damage.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... c9R9V.html

FFS

He has his race ruined by a lunatic Daddys boy; then he has another magnificent drive, in a car that took an almighty wallop, & now the Stewards take an objection after the deadline, so they can give him & the team another kicking, because Haas are sore over being repeatedly pinged for this offence in other races, & are fighting them in the manufacturers comp.

[Slick]

Is Christian Horner generally noted for being a complete cock? He doesn’t come across at all well in the Netflix series and this whole overspend saga seems like a lot of things coming home to roost

[Lobby]

Alonso loses 7th, drops to 15th after protest from Haas regarding loose bodywork damage.

https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/arti ... c9R9V.html

FFS

He has his race ruined by a lunatic Daddys boy; then he has another magnificent drive, in a car that took an almighty wallop, & now the Stewards take an objection after the deadline, so they can give him & the team another kicking, because Haas are sore over being repeatedly pinged for this offence in other races, & are fighting them in the manufacturers comp.

And they let Perez off for the same offence.

[Guy Smiley]

Is Christian Horner generally noted for being a complete cock? He doesn’t come across at all well in the Netflix series and this whole overspend saga seems like a lot of things coming home to roost

The Netflix series isn't really worth watching if you want informed, realistic insight. They pretty much create drama using real footage but the editing results in a sort of fantasy storyline.

Horner is a complete cock.

[Slick]

Is Christian Horner generally noted for being a complete cock? He doesn’t come across at all well in the Netflix series and this whole overspend saga seems like a lot of things coming home to roost

The Netflix series isn't really worth watching if you want informed, realistic insight. They pretty much create drama using real footage but the editing results in a sort of fantasy storyline.

Horner is a complete cock.

[Guy Smiley]

[Lobby]

You could at least have spoilered that

[fishfoodie]

I may just give up watching the F1 circus, & switch to sportscars entirely, with the introduction of the LMH Class

[Insane_Homer]

Magnussen - Haas - Pole!

Thank George

[fishfoodie]

Stroll should cop a few weeks on the sidelines for that; incredibly dangerous late move

FFS another week Stroll tries killing a fellow driver; this time Seb !!

How the fuck does he keep getting away with it ?

[Insane_Homer]

stroll needs a ban. dangerous cunt.

[Insane_Homer]

Bring back Massi!

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/ocon- ... /10313814/

[Insane_Homer]

Haas drop Schumacher for Hulkenberg.

[Insane_Homer]

Vasseur to Ferrari to replace Binotto
Seidl to Audi F1 (Sauber)
Capito leaves Williams
Andrea Stella replaces Seidl at Mclaren

[Kawazaki]

Vasseur to Ferrari to replace Binotto
Seidl to Audi F1 (Sauber)
Capito leaves Williams
Andrea Stella replaces Seidl at Mclaren

TBF, Andrea Stella has got a shit hot CV, he looks like an upgrade on Seidl.

[Big D]

Jennie Gow has had a "serious" stroke. She is good on the radio.

No idea was "serious" constitutes but hopefully she makes a good recovery. My Dad never recovered from his at a similar age and has speech, mind and body issues. Her tweet suggests speech and motor skills impairment at the moment.

[Guy Smiley]

[Insane_Homer]

FP1 11am UK time

[Sandstorm]

FP1 11am UK time

Let's see how crap the Merc really is

The new front wing on the Red Bull is about the same size as Lichtenstein !