_Os_ wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 2:25 pm
eldanielfire wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 1:22 pm
_Os_ wrote: Fri Apr 29, 2022 12:09 pm
Eldan you need to fix the quotes, you've fucked them so hard that it's incredibly difficult to reply to you, even after I've deciphered what you're trying to say.
Needless to say, you can't agree with everything I'm saying then say that nevertheless the "culture war" is a real thing.
I agree, only it's been played by both sides.
Again the "I agree" then disagreeing with everything. More backbone, please.
The "both sides" defence is also bullshit. The Biden administration and the Trump administration isn't evidence both sides are equally irrational and without solutions. Same for Johnson and Starmer. Lets go back to your original point I replied to "fringe campus theories have come into/infiltrated into the corporate mainstream and are impactin on society" (which you tried to wriggle out of by claiming you like me had really said the primary motivation for a big corporate was making money, when that's not what you said), for your "both sides" defence to work we have to believe the ex-president of the fucking US the sole superpower and some washed up professor at a nowhere university in the US somewhere are the same thing. They're not the same thing.
I've not compared Biden with Trump. I ahve discussed the overall state of left and right. of which the actual parties and their leaders are only part of it. Teh entirity fo yoru arguement is absed upon Presidents, not the overall political picture. I've discussed plenty fo times how Biden is very much a corporate Dem, not at all on the left.
My point is Musk has a vested interest in no solutions being reached that help the least well off, because that inevitably means Musk paying more. Therefore Musk supports all the "culture war" bullshit, because it's all a meaningless Potemkin created by the right to advance their interests (which are increasing productivity and sharing that with no one), they distract people by exploiting their fears/bigotry/racism, whilst stealing from those same people. For Musk the right hasn't moved one inch to the right since 2008 and is the norm, that's his view of the world, so that's what his agenda at Twitter will be about perpetuating.
Fucked if I know what your point is. That you agree with this, but no it's actually all wrong and Musk is actually no worse or something. Fuck knows.
I don't think the meme Musk presented is the story in it's entirity. It does reflect how many people strongly see the criticism they get from vocal sections of the left in recent years despite not moving politically how mainstream media sentiment and the social media environment has gone. I'd wager the right hasn't really changed since the Tea Party movement in the Obama days. And back then I was saying it's the right who went nuts then and is still wrong on Roe vs Wade, social health care, minimun wage etc.
I would disagree the culture war bullshit is all created by the right. It's common place many liberals have highlight how intolerant vocal sections of the left to anyone without a puritan view.