What's going on in Ukraine?

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Helicopters mysteriously exploded at a RU air base near Pskov not far from the borders with Latvia



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And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Something's about to go down in Kherson City, Russian flags removed, administrative staff moved to the left bank, checkpoints and some defensive positions abandoned. Can only hope RU aren't setting some kind of trap for flooding the city or worse...perhaps just digging in for street fighting?



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TB63 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:19 pm


Interesting to note that aircraft numbers are constant. Either suggests less deployment or that the Ukrainians are not invested in aerial battle
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Sards wrote: Fri Nov 04, 2022 6:00 pm
TB63 wrote: Sat Oct 29, 2022 12:19 pm


Interesting to note that aircraft numbers are constant. Either suggests less deployment or that the Ukrainians are not invested in aerial battle
4 jets in the last few days..

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That's a hell of an increase in one week. So big stuff going on but not being reported on.
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Russians claiming to have drafted in over 300,000 new recruits.

That equates to a lot more killing on both sides.

These will be hugely inexperienced troops and do they even have the equipment? But the sheer numbers of them is huge and will be overwhelming I’d have thought.
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Ymx wrote: Sat Nov 05, 2022 7:56 am Russians claiming to have drafted in over 300,000 new recruits.

That equates to a lot more killing on both sides.

These will be hugely inexperienced troops and do they even have the equipment? But the sheer numbers of them is huge and will be overwhelming I’d have thought.
If the numbers the Ukrainian are posting anything close to the real thing the mobilised numbers Will not matter.
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What a senseless loss of life, this loss of sons and husbands has to have a social impact for Russia when it finally ends ( other than shifting a load of Ladas)


The information was confirmed by the wives of the Russian military. They complain that their men were sent to the battle without training.
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tabascoboy wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:03 am What a senseless loss of life, this loss of sons and husbands has to have a social impact for Russia when it finally ends ( other than shifting a load of Ladas)


The information was confirmed by the wives of the Russian military. They complain that their men were sent to the battle without training.
They already have worse demographics than western Europe. I was surprised how high aids rates are in Russia (>1% of the population).
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It's why 300k mobilised means not a great deal i suspect. They'll simply be slaughtered without training or prep. Especially when facing artillery etc. Mobilised troops with no training are not going to be driving tanks or operating artillery etc. They have no hope, just a meat shield to slow Ukraine down.
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Raggs wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:06 am It's why 300k mobilised means not a great deal i suspect. They'll simply be slaughtered without training or prep. Especially when facing artillery etc. Mobilised troops with no training are not going to be driving tanks or operating artillery etc. They have no hope, just a meat shield to slow Ukraine down.
I'd guess that over the winter, the leading cause of death for Orc Officers won't be Ukrainian artillery; it'll be fragging.

Someone posted this clip on Twitter the other day, & I think there's a good chance history will repeat itself a century later

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fishfoodie wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 11:41 am
Raggs wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 10:06 am It's why 300k mobilised means not a great deal i suspect. They'll simply be slaughtered without training or prep. Especially when facing artillery etc. Mobilised troops with no training are not going to be driving tanks or operating artillery etc. They have no hope, just a meat shield to slow Ukraine down.
I'd guess that over the winter, the leading cause of death for Orc Officers won't be Ukrainian artillery; it'll be fragging.

Someone posted this clip on Twitter the other day, & I think there's a good chance history will repeat itself a century later

Great filum. Had forgotten what a chilling scene that was.
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tabascoboy wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:03 am What a senseless loss of life, this loss of sons and husbands has to have a social impact for Russia when it finally ends ( other than shifting a load of Ladas)


The information was confirmed by the wives of the Russian military. They complain that their men were sent to the battle without training.
Destroying the economy further with the massive brain drain and the loss of manpower caused by the staggering amounts of death.
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laurent wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 8:22 pm
tabascoboy wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:03 am What a senseless loss of life, this loss of sons and husbands has to have a social impact for Russia when it finally ends ( other than shifting a load of Ladas)
The information was confirmed by the wives of the Russian military. They complain that their men were sent to the battle without training.
Destroying the economy further with the massive brain drain and the loss of manpower caused by the staggering amounts of death.
And the way this is being done with large numbers of men from the same towns and cities being sent to the front lines together - and dying or being maimed together. It's very reminiscent of the "Accrington Pals"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accrington_Pals
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fishfoodie wrote: Sun Nov 06, 2022 9:13 pm
Have they just buried them in the middle of the road?
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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It does look like a particularly grim central reservation doesn't it ?
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So much for sanctions..
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TB63 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:32 pm


So much for sanctions..
A lot of those companies are healthcare, pharma, etc, & provide services that aren't subject to sanctions, & rightfully so !

There's a big difference between a company like Bayer, & Schlumberger who make too much money from the oil industry in Russia, to ever want to leave.
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fishfoodie wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:39 pm
TB63 wrote: Mon Nov 07, 2022 5:32 pm


So much for sanctions..
A lot of those companies are healthcare, pharma, etc, & provide services that aren't subject to sanctions, & rightfully so !

There's a big difference between a company like Bayer, & Schlumberger who make too much money from the oil industry in Russia, to ever want to leave.
I agree. A lot of people will be reliant on certain drugs to survive... or at least live healthily...
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Tell that to the families who've lost children, wives, grandparents in Ukraine..
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Pharma..

Novartis
Abbot
Cargill, some pharma, mostly agri..
Fresnius
Amensource
Abbvie
Siemens
Johnson's
Pfizer
Medtronic
Bristol Myers
Astra Zeneca
Bayer
Lilly
Roche
GSK
Sanofi

Then..

Vinci.. construction
Glencore.. commodity trading
OMV.. petrochemical
Ingram..software
ADM..food
ING .. financial
Phillips.. electronic
Nabisco..cookies!
Molgroup.. petrochemical
Merck.. shipping
Siemens Energy
UniCredit
Aegon..finance
Nestle......
Auchan..retail group
Heildbergcement...
P £ G..soap..
Air Liquids..gasses
Kraft Heinz
Veolia..waste disposal
Engine.. utilities
Metro..banking
Danone
Valeo.. automotive
HSBC
Schlumberger..oil
Aviva
Intesa..banking
Unilever..soap
International Paper..
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Original tweet was removed, but replaced because it said "west bank" instead of the correct "east bank"

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TB63 wrote: Tue Nov 08, 2022 10:29 am Pharma..

Novartis
Abbot
Cargill, some pharma, mostly agri..
Fresnius
Amensource
Abbvie
Siemens
Johnson's
Pfizer
Medtronic
Bristol Myers
Astra Zeneca
Bayer
Lilly
Roche
GSK
Sanofi

Then..

Vinci.. construction
Glencore.. commodity trading
OMV.. petrochemical
Ingram..software
ADM..food
ING .. financial
Phillips.. electronic
Nabisco..cookies!
Molgroup.. petrochemical
Merck.. shipping
Siemens Energy
UniCredit
Aegon..finance
Nestle......
Auchan..retail group
Heildbergcement...
P £ G..soap..
Air Liquids..gasses
Kraft Heinz
Veolia..waste disposal
Engine.. utilities
Metro..banking
Danone
Valeo.. automotive
HSBC
Schlumberger..oil
Aviva
Intesa..banking
Unilever..soap
International Paper..
One in bold would include medical Oxygen.
Assume Merck is MSD. That's pharma.
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Numerous villages around Kherson now appear to have been abandoned by RU forces and the area north of the city looks ever less defended with many bridges blown up. Large amounts of traffic heading over the dam crossing to the south ( they need to keep their plunder). Even some rumours that RU will announce surrender of Kherson City tonight but UA will be very very cagey about advancing given the RU record of mines, booby traps and shelling the shit out of anywhere they leave - if not worse.
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tabascoboy wrote: Wed Nov 09, 2022 3:15 pm

I am calling bullshit on that one, Russia has never given a fuck about the lives of its troops and even less so the civilian population, that was all so staged it was quite comical, definately for propoganda purposes.
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Just need them to wave whilst saying goodbye and walk down the invisible flight of stairs...
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