President Trump and US politics catchall

[Gumboot]

Spoke too soon - Warnock wins it.

[Kiwias]

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/ge ... 022-12-06/

The biggest surprise is that it was so close.

[Snooze]

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/ge ... 022-12-06/

The biggest surprise is that it was so close.

This. We were talking about it last night. Walker is not only brain dead as is obvious by his debates (or running from them), but has at least 2 women claiming abuse and that he paid for their abortions (he is meant to be anti-abortion). He also claims he's a police officer when he's not, etc. etc.

How can anyone, anyone, think he is fit for office, no matter how staunch a Republican you are. Fuck me.

[Kiwias]

https://www.cbsnews.com/live-updates/ge ... 022-12-06/

The biggest surprise is that it was so close.

This. We were talking about it last night. Walker is not only brain dead as is obvious by his debates (or running from them), but has at least 2 women claiming abuse and that he paid for their abortions (he is meant to be anti-abortion). He also claims he's a police officer when he's not, etc. etc.

How can anyone, anyone, think he is fit for office, no matter how staunch a Republican you are. Fuck me.

He does offer a degree of comic entertainment value.

[TB63]

Batshit crazy....

[SaintK]

Batshit crazy....

Doesn't begin to describe it!!!!!!

[bok_viking]

Batshit crazy....

This is absolutely crazy. I remember all those right wing TV evangelists who had these "visions" and "prophecies" from God before the 2018 elections on tv, saying that Trump would win by a landslide and Republics will win everything and then when it did not work they started saying how much the devil has its hand on this world and that it was all the work of evil
To think those Republicans think that God would pick sides in an election (if he exists) I am sure there were a lot of Democrats that prayed that she did not get elected, so maybe more Democrats prayed than Republicans

But they would do well to actually read the new testament and the teaching of Jesus if they want to call on him. The new testament actually said that Jesus taught the following “When you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by men … but when you pray, go into your room, close the door and pray to your father who is unseen.”

[Raggs]

Control over a woman's body, no sex without marriage (more important for the women to follow), slavery, death penalty for numerous crimes, homophobic. They've read their bibles, better than those that think it's all love and peace.

[bok_viking]

Control over a woman's body, no sex without marriage (more important for the women to follow), slavery, death penalty for numerous crimes, homophobic. They've read their bibles, better than those that think it's all love and peace.

Haha the problem is they seem to be stuck in the old testament. If they want to be stuck there, they should not be calling on Jesus in their prayers because many of Jesus' teachings was about doing away with a lot of the old rules. Maybe they should go back to Jehovah and call on him directly as was done in the Old Testament

[Raggs]

Control over a woman's body, no sex without marriage (more important for the women to follow), slavery, death penalty for numerous crimes, homophobic. They've read their bibles, better than those that think it's all love and peace.

Haha the problem is they seem to be stuck in the old testament. If they want to be stuck there, they should not be calling on Jesus in their prayers because many of Jesus' teachings was about doing away with a lot of the old rules. Maybe they should go back to Jehovah and call on him directly as was done in the Old Testament

Fairly sure none of those were removed in the new testament.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Control over a woman's body, no sex without marriage (more important for the women to follow), slavery, death penalty for numerous crimes, homophobic. They've read their bibles, better than those that think it's all love and peace.

Haha the problem is they seem to be stuck in the old testament. If they want to be stuck there, they should not be calling on Jesus in their prayers because many of Jesus' teachings was about doing away with a lot of the old rules. Maybe they should go back to Jehovah and call on him directly as was done in the Old Testament

Fairly sure none of those were removed in the new testament.

The NT does take steps to say the persecution doesn't come so much from a place of righteous anger but rather is done out of love and care

[Raggs]

Haha the problem is they seem to be stuck in the old testament. If they want to be stuck there, they should not be calling on Jesus in their prayers because many of Jesus' teachings was about doing away with a lot of the old rules. Maybe they should go back to Jehovah and call on him directly as was done in the Old Testament

Fairly sure none of those were removed in the new testament.

The NT does take steps to say the persecution doesn't come so much from a place of righteous anger but rather is done out of love and care

So when I'm enslaved, killed and sent to burn in hellfire, it's because someone loves me, that'll make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside . In the end, the batshit insane intolerant right, are closer to what the bible calls for than the left for the most part.

[Kiwias]

Fairly sure none of those were removed in the new testament.

The NT does take steps to say the persecution doesn't come so much from a place of righteous anger but rather is done out of love and care

So when I'm enslaved, killed and sent to burn in hellfire, it's because someone loves me, that'll make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside . In the end, the batshit insane intolerant right, are closer to what the bible calls for than the left for the most part.

Almost exactly the way George Carlin described religion.

[fishfoodie]

Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !

Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc

Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....

"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"

Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.

The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !

[Niegs]

Kind of insane, but I feel for the guy. What do you do when your neighbourhood has that much vandalism and crime?

[Raggs]

Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !

Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc

Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....

"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"

Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.

The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !

Actually Moses got a lot more instructions, which is most of Leviticus and maybe another book, can't remember. Jesus was fine with the death penalty and good with slavery too. He certainly wasn't some hippy type by our standards.

The other issue you've got is the suggestion that the Bible was wrong in places in the old testament. Or worse, god was wrong. The evangelicals have it pretty close I'd say. It's not a loving religion, the whole Jesus loves you is just propaganda to try and cover up the fact it isn't.

To try and bring it around, the Christian us right can rely heavily on religion to drive votes, which probably brings them quite a few votes from some immigrants too, who vote more on faith than what's actually good for them. And then seemingly miss the fact that the republicans don't seem to live by Christian law themselves, just want too impose it on others.

[dabooldawg]

Religion is like broccoli or your uncle Jim's penis. If it was forced on you as a child you're probably gonna hate it as an adult.

[Hal Jordan]

Kind of insane, but I feel for the guy. What do you do when your neighbourhood has that much vandalism and crime?

This is Philly, though, those fuckers riot when they win the Superbowl.

[Dinsdale Piranha]

Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !

Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc

Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....

"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"

Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.

The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !

The bible is a big book - well, collection of books. You can make it say whatever you want which is rather open to abuse.

To be fair, on the "crappy little rules" Most ofthe food hygeine ones were sensible for the time and region. A friend who is now a rabbi made this point. I then reminded her that she had a refrigerator and didn't that make them seem rather out of date.

My tolerance for religion drops daily while my tolerance for most other things goes the other way.

[sockwithaticket]

Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !

Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc

Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....

"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"

Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.

The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !

Actually Moses got a lot more instructions, which is most of Leviticus and maybe another book, can't remember. Jesus was fine with the death penalty and good with slavery too. He certainly wasn't some hippy type by our standards.

The other issue you've got is the suggestion that the Bible was wrong in places in the old testament. Or worse, god was wrong. The evangelicals have it pretty close I'd say. It's not a loving religion, the whole Jesus loves you is just propaganda to try and cover up the fact it isn't.

To try and bring it around, the Christian us right can rely heavily on religion to drive votes, which probably brings them quite a few votes from some immigrants too, who vote more on faith than what's actually good for them. And then seemingly miss the fact that the republicans don't seem to live by Christian law themselves, just want too impose it on others.

They get a surprisingly high proportion of the Hispanic vote due to their abortion stance. A not insignificant number of black people in the US are also very 'Christian' in the homophobic and anti-abortion kind of way. Faith certainly provides the Republicans with the means to reach those who should really ignore them out of hand.

[Brazil]

Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !

Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc

Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....

"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"

Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.

The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !

The bible is a big book - well, collection of books. You can make it say whatever you want which is rather open to abuse.

To be fair, on the "crappy little rules" Most ofthe food hygeine ones were sensible for the time and region. A friend who is now a rabbi made this point. I then reminded her that she had a refrigerator and didn't that make them seem rather out of date.

My tolerance for religion drops daily while my tolerance for most other things goes the other way.

They don't really, and we know from archaeology that people in the region were eating plenty of pigs, so the prohibition there is cultural rather than anything to do with hygiene. Same for not cooking meat in milk, which the Romans do famously well without ill effect.

[Raggs]

Part of my journey to atheism was just having a critical eye to what we were told was,"God's Word", & how the religious bureaucracy turn that into bullshit !

Moses got ten commandments that could be carved on two stone tables, & the Hebrew Religious Civil Service turned that into massive amount of crappy little rules around what you could eat & when etc, etc, etc

Then they sat around waiting for a Messiah, & when a small part of the community said; "Hey, this guy here is the Messiah !", he looked at the mess that the relatively simple set of rules had become, & he dumbed it down even further ....

"Love one & other, as I have loved you !"

Somehow even that simple fucking message can't be processed, & now so many Evangelical Christians; & they are focused on Hating, rather than Loving their fellow man.

The bottom line is that the more pious they claim to be, the bigger the fucking hypocrite they'll be !

The bible is a big book - well, collection of books. You can make it say whatever you want which is rather open to abuse.

To be fair, on the "crappy little rules" Most ofthe food hygeine ones were sensible for the time and region. A friend who is now a rabbi made this point. I then reminded her that she had a refrigerator and didn't that make them seem rather out of date.

My tolerance for religion drops daily while my tolerance for most other things goes the other way.

They don't really, and we know from archaeology that people in the region were eating plenty of pigs, so the prohibition there is cultural rather than anything to do with hygiene. Same for not cooking meat in milk, which the Romans do famously well without ill effect.

Pigs weren't even exclusively named. It prevent hyraxes, rabbits and camels from being eaten too, that could have helped them a lot. Seafood restrictions also prevented squid, catfish and eels.

The meat and dairy thing wasn't a dietary restriction as such, it was due to a nearby tribe/belief that if you cook a baby goat in it's mothers milk, and eat it, it's lucky or something. Then paranoia that someone may trick them, or they might make a mistake, pushed that to every meat (including tuna for some) and any type of dairy product being even served together, or within so much time.

[Brazil]

Pigs weren't even exclusively named. It prevent hyraxes, rabbits and camels from being eaten too, that could have helped them a lot. Seafood restrictions also prevented squid, catfish and eels.

The meat and dairy thing wasn't a dietary restriction as such, it was due to a nearby tribe/belief that if you cook a baby goat in it's mothers milk, and eat it, it's lucky or something. Then paranoia that someone may trick them, or they might make a mistake, pushed that to every meat (including tuna for some) and any type of dairy product being even served together, or within so much time.

Did they include beavers and otters in the aquatic restrictions? Christians used to eat beaver (snigger) on fridays on the grounds that it lived in the water, so clearly wasn't subject to the prohibition on meat.

My mates who keep a kosher household have separate fridges for meat and dairy. Oh how they laughed when somebody accidentally put sausages in the dairy one during a barbecue.

[Raggs]

Pigs weren't even exclusively named. It prevent hyraxes, rabbits and camels from being eaten too, that could have helped them a lot. Seafood restrictions also prevented squid, catfish and eels.

The meat and dairy thing wasn't a dietary restriction as such, it was due to a nearby tribe/belief that if you cook a baby goat in it's mothers milk, and eat it, it's lucky or something. Then paranoia that someone may trick them, or they might make a mistake, pushed that to every meat (including tuna for some) and any type of dairy product being even served together, or within so much time.

Did they include beavers and otters in the aquatic restrictions? Christians used to eat beaver (snigger) on fridays on the grounds that it lived in the water, so clearly wasn't subject to the prohibition on meat.

My mates who keep a kosher household have separate fridges for meat and dairy. Oh how they laughed when somebody accidentally put sausages in the dairy one during a barbecue.

Unless ultra strict (keeping separate fridges, or even kitchens), the laws were bent plenty. One I always found hilarious was that milk from the sabbath had to be thrown on the floor. It didn't say you couldn't then sell it. So dairy's break a bit of tile off the floor, clean it, and put it in the bottom of the milk tank. Then all the milk has technically been thrown on the floor, in accordance to the rules.

[fishfoodie]

On Topic; the Special Prosecutor isn't letting the grass grow, & has asked the Court to hold the Shitgibbon in contempt, because he still hasn't provided a sworn statement, that all classified materials have been returned !

I'm guessing the NARA, & the DoJ know better that the Orange turd what documents haven't been returned, & they want to get another false Statement, so they can bury whoever signs it in prison for a long time .... or they get them to give evidence that the turd told them to sign it, & that makes their conspiracy, & obstruction of Justice case against their ultimate target !

The Department of Justice has asked a judge to hold Donald Trump’s team in contempt for failing to comply with a subpoena to return classified documents, according to a report.

Federal investigators launched a probe to see if the one-term president broke the law by taking government documents, some marked top secret, with him when he left the White House in January 2021.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 41834.html

[Hal Jordan]

And the Lord did grin, and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals and fruit bats and large chu..
Maynard: Skip a bit, Brother.

[TB63]

Drump on Trevor Noah leaving SNL..

The guy had no talent, no charisma, and very little intelligence. Why would anyone have expected him to do well? What a stupid choice. If they put a pro-Trump person on, it would go through the roof, but they're too dumb to know that!

This from someone who wants to lead the US???? Just because Noah had his impersonation down to a t...

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Fairly sure none of those were removed in the new testament.

The NT does take steps to say the persecution doesn't come so much from a place of righteous anger but rather is done out of love and care

So when I'm enslaved, killed and sent to burn in hellfire, it's because someone loves me, that'll make me feel all warm and fuzzy inside . In the end, the batshit insane intolerant right, are closer to what the bible calls for than the left for the most part.

Classic abuser behaviour, why do you make me hit you? etc

[TB63]

Oh this should be fun!..

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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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AMERICA NEEDS A SUPERHERO! I will be making a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT tomorrow. Thank you!

[fishfoodie]

Oh this should be fun!..

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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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AMERICA NEEDS A SUPERHERO! I will be making a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT tomorrow. Thank you!

Top tip scuzball; wearing your skidmarked kaks on the outside, at your age, won't make you a Superhero; but it probably will result in your parasite offspring getting you declared incompetent; & sticking you in a room with soft walls ..... so go for it !

[inactionman]

Oh this should be fun!..

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Donald J. Trump

@realDonaldTrump

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AMERICA NEEDS A SUPERHERO! I will be making a MAJOR ANNOUNCEMENT tomorrow. Thank you!

[fishfoodie]

I see his announcement was, drumroll, a tin of superhero cards. He can still teabag people with the best of them

Could have it's uses !

[fishfoodie]

He will hopefully fade away now. From his own point of view that would be best. If he's no threat they might ignore his more stupid shit. Fuck knows who else the American right will come up with though

No chance !

He's only declared for 2024 this early, because he's shitting himself over all the criminal cases he's facing, & he needs his candidacy to claim it's all a political.

In the meanwhile, he'll also attack anyone else who declares, & generally fling shit; & I think there will be a growing number in the GOP who would welcome a prosecution, so they can suddenly discover morals, & force him out of the Party

[Guy Smiley]

Forcing him out through the launching of any prosecution is a plausible short term fix for the GOP... the blind alley they've run themselves into isn't going to be so easy to back out of though.

[Hal Jordan]

The threat isn't the grifting loudmouth. It's the reasonable seeming man in a smart suit that doesn't have the lunatic baggage. He's the one that walks through the door Trump opened, and delivers the horror show vision of America the GOP is touting

[robmatic]

The threat isn't the grifting loudmouth. It's the reasonable seeming man in a smart suit that doesn't have the lunatic baggage. He's the one that walks through the door Trump opened, and delivers the horror show vision of America the GOP is touting

There's now a young generation of right wing types who are basically looney tunes. That for me is the concerning thing.

[Blackmac]

I see his announcement was, drumroll, a tin of superhero cards. He can still teabag people with the best of them

Sold out within two days. Unbelievable.

[fishfoodie]

I see his announcement was, drumroll, a tin of superhero cards. He can still teabag people with the best of them

Sold out within two days. Unbelievable.

I'm sure like his awful fucking books, they were probably bought by his political slush fund, so he could loot it illegally

[JM2K6]

The threat isn't the grifting loudmouth. It's the reasonable seeming man in a smart suit that doesn't have the lunatic baggage. He's the one that walks through the door Trump opened, and delivers the horror show vision of America the GOP is touting

There's now a young generation of right wing types who are basically looney tunes. That for me is the concerning thing.

Plus all the nightmare conspiracy theorists. There was a large but unsurprising study that showed zero effectiveness for Ivermectin the other day - Twitter was absolutely awash with absolute psychos banging their conspiracy drums. Incredible numbers of total mentalists.

[fishfoodie]

The threat isn't the grifting loudmouth. It's the reasonable seeming man in a smart suit that doesn't have the lunatic baggage. He's the one that walks through the door Trump opened, and delivers the horror show vision of America the GOP is touting

There's now a young generation of right wing types who are basically looney tunes. That for me is the concerning thing.

Plus all the nightmare conspiracy theorists. There was a large but unsurprising study that showed zero effectiveness for Ivermectin the other day - Twitter was absolutely awash with absolute psychos banging their conspiracy drums. Incredible numbers of total mentalists.

GOP voters died at a ratio of 2:1 versus DNC Voters thru Covid; have a think about that !