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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:56 pm
Lobby wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:51 am
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:35 am Well done to those who voted for this Tory Government, & all those before it :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63948640
You do know that the NHS in Wales is run by the Welsh Government don't you? This is an appalling story, but the blame for this lies primarily with the Welsh Labour administration rather than the Tories.
Oh, I'm sorry !

I hadn't realized that the Welsh assembly was able to control how much money it was allocated from Westminster; & also to control UK immigration law, so that it wasn't impacted by the Brexit idiocy, that helped drive EU workers in the NHS out of the Country ?

There I was thinking that the Welsh, Scottish & NI Assemblies were just glove puppets to dole out whatever the Tory Governments deigned fit to allocate to them; which after more than a decade of austerity was the square root of fuck all !
That's a head shot.
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Biffer wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:39 am
These fuckers are slowly pushing us back to Victorian times where, if you weren't rich, you had to beg for help / work / whatever and be grateful whatever pitiful scraps they gave you.
Alright REFRY?
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Biffer wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:39 am
GogLais wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 10:12 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:35 am Well done to those who voted for this Tory Government, & all those before it :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:




https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-63948640
Apart from anything else someone is going to get badly damaged after being handled by people who don’t know how to deal with fractures. I realise why they have to do it.
These fuckers are slowly pushing us back to Victorian times where, if you weren't rich, you had to beg for help / work / whatever and be grateful whatever pitiful scraps they gave you.
The good ol' days as Jacob Rees Mogg would say
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Just the eight complaints against Raab for being a bully; over years, multiple people, multiple Ministries, the same old Tory attitude.
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:56 pm Just the eight complaints against Raab for being a bully; over years, multiple people, multiple Ministries, the same old Tory attitude.
Yep, eight and counting, bet that little vein on his forehead is throbbing away at the moment!!!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2 ... onfirms
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SaintK wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:30 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:56 pm Just the eight complaints against Raab for being a bully; over years, multiple people, multiple Ministries, the same old Tory attitude.
Yep, eight and counting, bet that little vein on his forehead is throbbing away at the moment!!!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2 ... onfirms
I'm all for giving people a right to reply, and the whole 'innocent till proven guilty' theory, but surely he cant remain in his role whilst this is being investigated?

One or two complaints could be a miscommunication or misunderstanding, or two characters whose working ways don't align.
But 8 complaints would point to a common issue, which is the man who's supposed to be our deputy PM.... :|
Over the hills and far away........
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salanya wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:58 pm
SaintK wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:30 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 2:56 pm Just the eight complaints against Raab for being a bully; over years, multiple people, multiple Ministries, the same old Tory attitude.
Yep, eight and counting, bet that little vein on his forehead is throbbing away at the moment!!!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2 ... onfirms
I'm all for giving people a right to reply, and the whole 'innocent till proven guilty' theory, but surely he cant remain in his role whilst this is being investigated?

One or two complaints could be a miscommunication or misunderstanding, or two characters whose working ways don't align.
But 8 complaints would point to a common issue, which is the man who's supposed to be our deputy PM.... :|
And what really adds the cherry on top is that he's also an absolute fucking liability - he's an atrociously out of his depth arrogant cunt who should be closer to the heart of the sun than to being an MP. Genuinely appallingly shit oxygen thief.
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Had an interview with the NHS yesterday. 70% of the questions was all about managing stress and dealing with conflict.
Kinda kills your romantic Nye Bevan hero worshipping notions.
Not a terrific advert for working in the NHS.
"Hi we are full of controlling stressed out narcissists determined to make your life miserable, and stress you to fuckerooo in your one and only life, that will be shortenned significantly, for your 23 grand a year.....so why do you want to come work for us?"

My "well I quite like it off women" reply to the how do you deal with someone being abusive question didn't go down well.
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Line6 HXFX wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:08 am Had an interview with the NHS yesterday. 70% of the questions was all about managing stress and dealing with conflict.
Kinda kills your romantic Nye Bevan hero worshipping notions.
Not a terrific advert for working in the NHS.
"Hi we are full of controlling stressed out narcissists determined to make your life miserable, and stress you to fuckerooo in your one and only life, that will be shortenned significantly, for your 23 grand a year.....so why do you want to come work for us?"

My "well I quite like it off women" reply to the how do you deal with someone being abusive question didn't go down well.
Both a very funny and very sad post at the same time.
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JM2K6 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 11:22 pm
salanya wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:58 pm
SaintK wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 3:30 pm
Yep, eight and counting, bet that little vein on his forehead is throbbing away at the moment!!!
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2 ... onfirms
I'm all for giving people a right to reply, and the whole 'innocent till proven guilty' theory, but surely he cant remain in his role whilst this is being investigated?

One or two complaints could be a miscommunication or misunderstanding, or two characters whose working ways don't align.
But 8 complaints would point to a common issue, which is the man who's supposed to be our deputy PM.... :|
And what really adds the cherry on top is that he's also an absolute fucking liability - he's an atrociously out of his depth arrogant cunt who should be closer to the heart of the sun than to being an MP. Genuinely appallingly shit oxygen thief.
I genuinely believe you are being too kind to him!
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C69 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:57 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:56 pm
Lobby wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 11:51 am You do know that the NHS in Wales is run by the Welsh Government don't you? This is an appalling story, but the blame for this lies primarily with the Welsh Labour administration rather than the Tories.
Oh, I'm sorry !

I hadn't realized that the Welsh assembly was able to control how much money it was allocated from Westminster; & also to control UK immigration law, so that it wasn't impacted by the Brexit idiocy, that helped drive EU workers in the NHS out of the Country ?

There I was thinking that the Welsh, Scottish & NI Assemblies were just glove puppets to dole out whatever the Tory Governments deigned fit to allocate to them; which after more than a decade of austerity was the square root of fuck all !
That's a head shot.
As far as I am aware Wales has the same ability to raise its own revenue as Scotland does, but choses not to use it.

We're now paying an extra 2p on everything over £44k, plus extra taxes on other items. Given that services everywhere seem to be suffering, I am quite comfortable to pay extra tax to be used to improve services (whether it does is another question), and help fund things we chose to do differently from England.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 10:38 am
_Os_ wrote: Wed Dec 07, 2022 1:42 am Hold up, nowhere did I say I support an Indy Scotland or whatever (it's not my fight/problem). The best course of action to me seems to let Scotland decide, which is where your opposition to devolution stops working, not many Scottish people think it has failed and want it all rolled back. The majority seems to be for more devolution.

The foreign policy element is limited to devolved areas, which will turn out to be a bit meaningless. State to state agreements happen on trade, not on which particular layer of government collects taxes. US states will have more foreign policy autonomy. What could happen maybe is the UK signs an agreement for reciprocal extradition with somewhere, and Scotland decides it would rather not be part of that (totally guessing here). I know UK citizens can be pursued from the UK in some US states but not others depending on the circumstances (complex area).

Not buying that a state called the UK which has Scotland in it, will not actually have Scotland in it. I think you're getting hung up on the exact constitutional framework, when it's all just a means to an end.
Devolving just about everything is the end of the Union sooner or later - this is why it is a bad idea! Not sure how many times I can keep rephrasing this point. We are either a country or we are not.
I think your criticism of devolution doesn't really work when the counterfactual is thought through fully. If Scotland had never had devolution. The reason Iraq/Afghanistan doesn't come up in Scottish debate as something they were forced into, is because they supported Blair/Labour under the Westminster fptp system, but also under the Scottish pr/additional member system. Devolution has removed a lot (but not all) of the representation argument, without devolution there would still be minimum 75% who wanted devolution in 1997 and probably a lot more too. Maybe enough people to force the SNP into seats even in a Westminster election (without any pr system in the background giving them a platform), that's what an existential question did to NI in Westminster elections. You seem to be saying there was another way of doing Scottish devolution maybe? Not sure how without a Scottish parliament something the Scots have an "ancient memory" of more than the people of Leicester or wherever have regarding their local council. There's every chance without devolution Scottish politics could be more toxic, the binary existential question is the key driver, wrong to think that trying to supress representation supresses the binary question (especially so when that question is fundamentally about representation).
Except that isn't the counterfactual I posed and my criticism was of Labour's tendency to not think through the effects of constitutional change rather than constitutional change itself. Devolving powers to much stronger city councils in Glasgow and Edinburgh (and Leeds and Manchester and and), and to the Highlands & Islands Council (and Cumbria and Devon etc) would have created the local control away from Westminster that I think we agree is/was necessary without fundamentally undermining the Union, which is what has happened. Ancient memory was a reference to the failed English regions as I'm sure you knew from reading but have misrepresented.

I'm not quite sure on the 'Scottish politics could have been more toxic' - the worst case would be that the system had failed, 35-50% of Scots were voting for Nationalist parties and demanding independence. Oh.
Apologies for only getting back to this now.

A nation can be fully federal and still be a nation, Texas doesn't have a seat in the UN. An obvious point I know, but also true. Brown's plan from what I've seen of it basically looks like creating some form of federal system, I'm not sure how that works without a written constitution (because Westminster can always demolish it all, if it wishes). I've tried to find the Brown discussion document once and failed (has anyone actually read it on here?). The Brown document took two years to make, and will go through at least another year inside the Labour policy team before a manifesto is made (in other words it's not final, very unlikely anything gets added now, but it is possible elements are removed).

I didn't know what your alternative was, which is why I asked. The problem with creating beefed up councils with no layer between them and national government, is the power difference between those to levels. A lot of those areas aren't going to be self sustaining and will need cash from national government, so national government can control them by slashing their budgets regardless of what formal political powers they have (which is what has been happening). You're correct that the Scottish parliament is more of a threat to Westminster, which is also why it can potentially get more done, it can bang on the door at Westminster or do what it can itself in a way a local council cannot. There's also a subsidiarity issue (how power is divided between various layers of government), if your version of devolution only has the highest level (national government) and the lowest (councils), you also make a hard limit to what can actually be devolved to the local level because a lot of functions will exceed the capacity of local government. For example regional infrastructure projects will have to remain in Westminster as they will exceed the capacity of any single local council, tax raising powers too (local business/council rates, but anything more than that would have to be at a minimum regional), and so on. You'll then be left trying to tell Scots power has actually been devolved.

Scottish politics could easily be more toxic. When a single issue dominates a polity the tendency is for movement towards the extremes, binaries are formed and the longer the question remains unresolved the more extreme the positions become. This happens regardless of electoral system. That's how NI ended up with SF and the DUP, when there were more moderate options available on both sides, on both sides it was a process of replacing successive parties with more extreme ones. Alliance getting more support from former unionist voters, is really about the question (basically "should Ireland be united?) itself coming closer to resolution, with unionist on the losing side (no point voting for a moderate unionist party, can't vote for a nationalist party, so they vote for a liberal party). If devolution had not given power to Scots in a way they find acceptable (and therefore the existential question had not been moved closer to resolution even to the extent it has), and instead Scots had been left with only their Westminster vote to try and exercise some real substantial power, it would be a safe bet that all the people who wanted devolution would still want it (a super majority) and all those who wanted independence (a large minority) would still hold those positions as you say, but the bit you miss is there's a huge difference between UUP/DUP and SDLP/SF. There's been no need for a radical version of the SNP to split from the SNP and then replace it, because the SNP has been successful, it's counter intuitive but this increases the chances of the GB part of the UK staying together because a compromise outcome becomes more likely. As soon as a SF v DUP dynamic develops it's winner takes all, and the chance of the UK ending sometime this century increases.
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weegie01 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:16 pm
C69 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:57 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 13, 2022 9:56 pm

Oh, I'm sorry !

I hadn't realized that the Welsh assembly was able to control how much money it was allocated from Westminster; & also to control UK immigration law, so that it wasn't impacted by the Brexit idiocy, that helped drive EU workers in the NHS out of the Country ?

There I was thinking that the Welsh, Scottish & NI Assemblies were just glove puppets to dole out whatever the Tory Governments deigned fit to allocate to them; which after more than a decade of austerity was the square root of fuck all !
That's a head shot.
As far as I am aware Wales has the same ability to raise its own revenue as Scotland does, but choses not to use it.

We're now paying an extra 2p on everything over £44k, plus extra taxes on other items. Given that services everywhere seem to be suffering, I am quite comfortable to pay extra tax to be used to improve services (whether it does is another question), and help fund things we chose to do differently from England.
Ah, the delicate trap that is devolution, but not Independance.

You get to make yourself less attractive to FDI etc, by being able to levy an additional level of tax, but you can't play with a more fundamental tax like Corporation tax !!

There isn't a snowballs chance in hell, that any Westminister Government, regardless of who leads it, will ever voluntarily create a situation, where instead of Singapore on Thames, it should be Singapore on Leith, or Singapore on Taff, etc, etc; the Tories are already horrified that NI has gained a significant advantage over the rest of the UK, by being able to trade with the UK, & EU, on equal terms, while everywhere else in GB has to deal with the shitty deal the Bumblecunt struck. If FDI is going anywhere in the UK, its in the bit of it, that may be part of the EU within a decade or two !
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Could be why some of her policies were so off the wall and Kwarteng looked off his tits at the Queens funeral:crazy:
Traces of a suspected class A drug were found at a government grace-and-favour home after parties attended by political allies of Liz Truss, the Guardian has been told.
The white powder was discovered at the Chevening estate last summer in the days before Truss won the Tory leadership contest and became prime minister, according to sources.
A member of staff claimed they tested the powder using a swab which changes colour when it comes into contact with cocaine, and it indicated the drug was present.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ ... ay-staff
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fishfoodie wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:20 pm
weegie01 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:16 pm
C69 wrote: Wed Dec 14, 2022 12:57 pm
That's a head shot.
As far as I am aware Wales has the same ability to raise its own revenue as Scotland does, but choses not to use it.

We're now paying an extra 2p on everything over £44k, plus extra taxes on other items. Given that services everywhere seem to be suffering, I am quite comfortable to pay extra tax to be used to improve services (whether it does is another question), and help fund things we chose to do differently from England.
Ah, the delicate trap that is devolution, but not Independance.

You get to make yourself less attractive to FDI etc, by being able to levy an additional level of tax, but you can't play with a more fundamental tax like Corporation tax !!

There isn't a snowballs chance in hell, that any Westminister Government, regardless of who leads it, will ever voluntarily create a situation, where instead of Singapore on Thames, it should be Singapore on Leith, or Singapore on Taff, etc, etc; the Tories are already horrified that NI has gained a significant advantage over the rest of the UK, by being able to trade with the UK, & EU, on equal terms, while everywhere else in GB has to deal with the shitty deal the Bumblecunt struck. If FDI is going anywhere in the UK, its in the bit of it, that may be part of the EU within a decade or two !
Fishfoodie - that doesn't seem to square with reality though https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-61595697

Just some quotes from EY report fom May this Year

Scotland outpaced both Europe and the UK as a whole last year as a destination for foreign investors, according to a new report.

he latest EY Scotland Attractiveness Survey revealed 122 inward investment projects were secured in Scotland in 2021, up from 107 the previous year.
The 14% increase compared with rises of 1.8% across the UK and 5.4% in Europe.
The figures indicate that Scotland remains the top UK location outside of London.
Digital projects in Scotland rose by 73.4%, in contrast to a 7% decline in Europe and 7% growth in the UK overall.
Scotland's share of all UK foreign direct investment (FDI) projects rose to its highest level in the past decade, securing 12.3% of projects - up from 11% in 2020.

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SaintK wrote: Fri Dec 16, 2022 3:11 pm Could be why some of her policies were so off the wall and Kwarteng looked off his tits at the Queens funeral:crazy:
Traces of a suspected class A drug were found at a government grace-and-favour home after parties attended by political allies of Liz Truss, the Guardian has been told.
The white powder was discovered at the Chevening estate last summer in the days before Truss won the Tory leadership contest and became prime minister, according to sources.
A member of staff claimed they tested the powder using a swab which changes colour when it comes into contact with cocaine, and it indicated the drug was present.
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/ ... ay-staff
Given that this gak-fuelled kleptocracy has been in power for going on twelve years now, it'd probably be quicker for the enquiry to announce which govt residences didn't have traces of coke left in them.
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Dogbert wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 8:52 am
fishfoodie wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 11:20 pm
weegie01 wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:16 pm

As far as I am aware Wales has the same ability to raise its own revenue as Scotland does, but choses not to use it.

We're now paying an extra 2p on everything over £44k, plus extra taxes on other items. Given that services everywhere seem to be suffering, I am quite comfortable to pay extra tax to be used to improve services (whether it does is another question), and help fund things we chose to do differently from England.
Ah, the delicate trap that is devolution, but not Independance.

You get to make yourself less attractive to FDI etc, by being able to levy an additional level of tax, but you can't play with a more fundamental tax like Corporation tax !!

There isn't a snowballs chance in hell, that any Westminister Government, regardless of who leads it, will ever voluntarily create a situation, where instead of Singapore on Thames, it should be Singapore on Leith, or Singapore on Taff, etc, etc; the Tories are already horrified that NI has gained a significant advantage over the rest of the UK, by being able to trade with the UK, & EU, on equal terms, while everywhere else in GB has to deal with the shitty deal the Bumblecunt struck. If FDI is going anywhere in the UK, its in the bit of it, that may be part of the EU within a decade or two !
Fishfoodie - that doesn't seem to square with reality though https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland- ... s-61595697

Just some quotes from EY report fom May this Year

Scotland outpaced both Europe and the UK as a whole last year as a destination for foreign investors, according to a new report.

he latest EY Scotland Attractiveness Survey revealed 122 inward investment projects were secured in Scotland in 2021, up from 107 the previous year.
The 14% increase compared with rises of 1.8% across the UK and 5.4% in Europe.
The figures indicate that Scotland remains the top UK location outside of London.
Digital projects in Scotland rose by 73.4%, in contrast to a 7% decline in Europe and 7% growth in the UK overall.
Scotland's share of all UK foreign direct investment (FDI) projects rose to its highest level in the past decade, securing 12.3% of projects - up from 11% in 2020.

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Exactly, and this is due to the way economic development is run from Holyrood. We have functional, funded regional development agencies in a way that England in particular doesn’t (not sure about Wales, NI does).

We’ve been conditioned in the UK, over decades, to believe everything is about income tax. It’s not.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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tabascoboy wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:07 am
Sat at the same table as him at a lunch at my club. He is a knob of the highest order
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SaintK wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:28 am Sat at the same table as him at a lunch at my club. He is a knob of the highest order
What name was he using that day?
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Insane_Homer wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:43 am
SaintK wrote: Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:28 am Sat at the same table as him at a lunch at my club. He is a knob of the highest order
What name was he using that day?
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Police investigate Conservative MP Bob Stewart's Bahrain comment


Police are investigating an allegation of racial abuse after Tory MP Bob Stewart told a human rights activist to "go back to Bahrain".

Scotland Yard said they had opened the case following a complaint from Sayed Ahmed Alwadaei, who had a confrontation with the MP in central London.

The Beckenham MP also told the campaigner to "get stuffed".

Mr Stewart said he regretted the comments but insisted he was "not being racist in any way".

Mr Alwadaei, the director of advocacy at the Bahrain Institute for Rights and Democracy, challenged Mr Stewart on his connections with Bahrain outside an event to mark the National Day of Bahrain last Wednesday.

Footage of the incident outside the Foreign Office's Lancaster House shows Mr Stewart responding: "Bahrain's a great place. End of."

He later added: "Go away, I hate you. You make a lot of fuss. Go back to Bahrain."
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Can someone make a list of the Tory MPs who aren't scum ?
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fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:41 pm Another, racist, corrupt, Tory scumbag.
Police investigate Conservative MP Bob Stewart's Bahrain comment


Police are investigating an allegation of racial abuse after Tory MP Bob Stewart told a human rights activist to "go back to Bahrain".

Scotland Yard said they had opened the case following a complaint from Sayed Ahmed Alwadaei, who had a confrontation with the MP in central London.

The Beckenham MP also told the campaigner to "get stuffed".

Mr Stewart said he regretted the comments but insisted he was "not being racist in any way".

Mr Alwadaei, the director of advocacy at the Bahrain Institute for Rights and Democracy, challenged Mr Stewart on his connections with Bahrain outside an event to mark the National Day of Bahrain last Wednesday.

Footage of the incident outside the Foreign Office's Lancaster House shows Mr Stewart responding: "Bahrain's a great place. End of."

He later added: "Go away, I hate you. You make a lot of fuss. Go back to Bahrain."
...
Can someone make a list of the Tory MPs who aren't scum ?
Here you go:

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Finished.
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Sandstorm wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 10:22 am
Line6 HXFX wrote: Thu Dec 15, 2022 9:08 am Had an interview with the NHS yesterday. 70% of the questions was all about managing stress and dealing with conflict.
Kinda kills your romantic Nye Bevan hero worshipping notions.
Not a terrific advert for working in the NHS.
"Hi we are full of controlling stressed out narcissists determined to make your life miserable, and stress you to fuckerooo in your one and only life, that will be shortenned significantly, for your 23 grand a year.....so why do you want to come work for us?"

My "well I quite like it off women" reply to the how do you deal with someone being abusive question didn't go down well.
Both a very funny and very sad post at the same time.
Yup..made it to the final two out of 15 applicants ( job was database heavy).. I wondered why they didn't phone me the day after like said they would. They were waiting for another employee to see if she would accept the job. I was the second cab on the rank.

It is a extremely fine like between gainful employment and foodbanks...though you are expected to do both these days.
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Lobby wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:55 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Tue Dec 20, 2022 4:41 pm Another, racist, corrupt, Tory scumbag.
Police investigate Conservative MP Bob Stewart's Bahrain comment


Police are investigating an allegation of racial abuse after Tory MP Bob Stewart told a human rights activist to "go back to Bahrain".

Scotland Yard said they had opened the case following a complaint from Sayed Ahmed Alwadaei, who had a confrontation with the MP in central London.

The Beckenham MP also told the campaigner to "get stuffed".

Mr Stewart said he regretted the comments but insisted he was "not being racist in any way".

Mr Alwadaei, the director of advocacy at the Bahrain Institute for Rights and Democracy, challenged Mr Stewart on his connections with Bahrain outside an event to mark the National Day of Bahrain last Wednesday.

Footage of the incident outside the Foreign Office's Lancaster House shows Mr Stewart responding: "Bahrain's a great place. End of."

He later added: "Go away, I hate you. You make a lot of fuss. Go back to Bahrain."
...
Can someone make a list of the Tory MPs who aren't scum ?
Here you go:

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Finished.

Steven Barclay has certainly surged ahead to the top of that list. Some of the bile coming out of that cnuts mouth deserves a violent response, especially when there are no ambulances and nurses to treat the horrible twat
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Blackmac wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:28 pm Steven Barclay has certainly surged ahead to the top of that list. Some of the bile coming out of that cnuts mouth deserves a violent response, especially when there are no ambulances and nurses to treat the horrible twat
I honestly don't know what he/they think they will achieve with that sort of stance and attitude. They will never win over public sympathy from front line NHS workers who have been run ragged over the past 3 years
There will be a massive screeching u turn at some stage and they'll all look even bigger cunts than they are now
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SaintK wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm
Blackmac wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:28 pm Steven Barclay has certainly surged ahead to the top of that list. Some of the bile coming out of that cnuts mouth deserves a violent response, especially when there are no ambulances and nurses to treat the horrible twat
I honestly don't know what he/they think they will achieve with that sort of stance and attitude. They will never win over public sympathy from front line NHS workers who have been run ragged over the past 3 years
There will be a massive screeching u turn at some stage and they'll all look even bigger cunts than they are now
A part of me wonders if this isn't another phase of the Bumblecunts supporters plan to get him back in #10

Force an impossible position on the Leadership, & wait for the annihilation in the locals; & then force Rishi out, & the Bumblecunt returns in triumph, & does a complete reversal, supported by these same supporters, & hands out inflation busting pay rises, to try & win the GE.
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:08 pm
SaintK wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm
Blackmac wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:28 pm Steven Barclay has certainly surged ahead to the top of that list. Some of the bile coming out of that cnuts mouth deserves a violent response, especially when there are no ambulances and nurses to treat the horrible twat
I honestly don't know what he/they think they will achieve with that sort of stance and attitude. They will never win over public sympathy from front line NHS workers who have been run ragged over the past 3 years
There will be a massive screeching u turn at some stage and they'll all look even bigger cunts than they are now
A part of me wonders if this isn't another phase of the Bumblecunts supporters plan to get him back in #10

Force an impossible position on the Leadership, & wait for the annihilation in the locals; & then force Rishi out, & the Bumblecunt returns in triumph, & does a complete reversal, supported by these same supporters, & hands out inflation busting pay rises, to try & win the GE.
Don't think so, whilst a number of the Tory MPs do hate Sunak for what they think he did to Johnson the don't give into to strikers is what they think Thatcher would do.
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I like neeps wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 4:28 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 3:08 pm
SaintK wrote: Wed Dec 21, 2022 2:56 pm
I honestly don't know what he/they think they will achieve with that sort of stance and attitude. They will never win over public sympathy from front line NHS workers who have been run ragged over the past 3 years
There will be a massive screeching u turn at some stage and they'll all look even bigger cunts than they are now
A part of me wonders if this isn't another phase of the Bumblecunts supporters plan to get him back in #10

Force an impossible position on the Leadership, & wait for the annihilation in the locals; & then force Rishi out, & the Bumblecunt returns in triumph, & does a complete reversal, supported by these same supporters, & hands out inflation busting pay rises, to try & win the GE.
Don't think so, whilst a number of the Tory MPs do hate Sunak for what they think he did to Johnson the don't give into to strikers is what they think Thatcher would do.
The Tories need an enemy - the EU, migrants, Trade Unions, woke lefties, etc. They need a distraction, a false front, in order to deflect and blame for the shitfest they have created. Easier to blame TUs for the shitty economy than the Brexit they created and implemented. Easier to blame migrants than to accept they have created the housing shortage and deprived public services of funding, blame the EU rather than admit they signed off the NI Protocol. They have nothing positive for the UK so they need to create a narrative that they are defending us from an imaginary enemy, a class war v the woke left, an economic war v the commie Trade Unions, a war against the migrant invasion, etc. However the UK and the world has moved on and I truly believe they have picked the wrong one against the nurses and the ambulance staff. They will however dig the trench deeper and deeper and it will get very very nasty. It won't end well for anyone.
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Watch out for news from the HO.
Braverman facing another case of illegal detention of migrants.
This time hundreds of people.
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Old Etonian former investment banker appointed as Sunak's ethics adviser.
Wonder how long he'll last?
Rishi Sunak has appointed a former banker and quango head to be his ethics adviser after a six-month delay in filling the post, but will not allow the new incumbent to launch his own investigations into potential wrongdoing.
Sir Laurie Magnus, who spent his career in corporate finance and who chairs Historic England, will take over from Lord Geidt, who resigned as the independent adviser on ministers’ interests under Boris Johnson in June.
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Lol
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Are you in business?, Rishi Sunak asks homeless man during shelter visit

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The prime minister has been criticised by some Labour MPs after he was filmed asking a homeless man if he worked in business.

Rishi Sunak was serving breakfast at a shelter in London when the man, named Dean, asked him if he was "sorting the economy out".

Labour's deputy leader Angela Rayner posted a clip of the exchange on Twitter, calling it "excruciating".

Later in the video, filmed yesterday, Dean goes on to tell Mr Sunak that he "wouldn't mind" a job in finance, but he would like to get through Christmas first.
“Facts are meaningless. You could use facts to prove anything that's even remotely true.”
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Holy shit! That is excrutiating!!!
Proper man of the people is our PM
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Of course the Tories only have our best interest at heart...




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