2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup

[OomStruisbaai]

SA teams are rubbish away from home

Sharks look way kakker then the Bulls last night. They could end up 5th.

[JM2K6]

Fun game. Huge carry there by Porkeater through little Danny Care. Warning signs for Quins, this isn't won.

[OomStruisbaai]

Nice run from Potgieter

[SaintK]

So I turn it on and Sharks start scoring!

[JM2K6]

Marcus has added some range to his goal kicking this season. Given his insane success rate in the last year that was the only thing missing.

Now to get those cross kicks and kicks to the corner improved...

[sockwithaticket]

One might say that was cynically stopping Care from taking the quick tap and worth a card...

[JM2K6]

Hendrickson was clearly in touch with the ball in that move, never mind

[Marylandolorian]

Northampton/ la Rochelle, boring, 3 passes-ruck, in 35 minutes Nor 9 penalties LaR 6.

[OomStruisbaai]

Excellent game this.

[sockwithaticket]

Two marvellous steals from Evans. A shame Quins couldn't do more, a bit to much sloppy passing and balls bobbling backwards.

[OomStruisbaai]

Care not carefull

[Simian]

That's a try. Lazy from Marler.

[Tichtheid]

Blimey Big Eben sharp as a tack

Healy will be unbearable now

[JM2K6]

Yep Quins hurting themselves with loose passes, although it's been a key part of the pace of the game.

Huh that's an interesting call - he's clearly bound but the impact on the ruck then makes it's just a forearm bind.

However - Dombrandt is right. Etzebeth is a yard in front of the back foot before the bind is broken.

Good to see refs clamp down on these though.

[sockwithaticket]

This is an *ahem* unique interpretation of the ball being out.

[Ovals]

Very sloppy

Really let them back into the game - just 2 points in it now.

[OomStruisbaai]

Etsebeth has been doing this legally. If the scrumhalf touch the ball its out.

[Sards]

Close game.

[JM2K6]

Etsebeth has been doing this legally. If the scrumhalf touch the ball its out.

No that's not the law. They have to lift it. What's happening here is that the bind is being broken - a hand isn't enough - and Sharks are spotting those situations very well.

[sockwithaticket]

Etsebeth has been doing this legally. If the scrumhalf touch the ball its out.

As I understand it's the bind of the player at the back of the ruck which is under scrutiny. If they get too long in the arm then they're no longer part of the ruck and the ball is out. The scrum half touching it is neither here nor there. If the ball is still in a ruck then it's only out when the scrum half lifts it, hands on isn't enough.

[Biffer]

Dingwall red card. Upright, head to head contact, no dip, pretty clear. As Scott Hastings said in commentary, ‘that’s not how I was taught to tackle’.

[Simian]

This is an *ahem* unique interpretation of the ball being out.

Do you think? Marler was very clearly not bound on the ruck.

[sockwithaticket]

This is an *ahem* unique interpretation of the ball being out.

Do you think? Marler was very clearly not bound on the ruck.

It's technically correct, but it's just not reffed that way week in week out.

[JM2K6]

This is an *ahem* unique interpretation of the ball being out.

Do you think? Marler was very clearly not bound on the ruck.

He was bound originally and it's not really a thing we've seen before where a player hitting a ruck causes an extension of the arm and leading to an "out" call, but I think it's fair enough.

Etzebeth is not onside though. He's always standing a yard in front.

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[Oxbow]

Dingwall red card. Upright, head to head contact, no dip, pretty clear. As Scott Hastings said in commentary, ‘that’s not how I was taught to tackle’.

Yeah, Dingwall is in no way a dirty player, but can't really argue with that red. The second half could well be brutal.

[Simian]

This is an *ahem* unique interpretation of the ball being out.

Do you think? Marler was very clearly not bound on the ruck.

It's technically correct, but it's just not reffed that way week in week out.

Totally agree that it's not called as often as it should be. I have definitely seen it called before though (and heard refs warn/coach players about not being fully bound). I actually thought there'd been a law clarification a few years ago on the exact point.

[JM2K6]

Tell us how they should've taken the 3 points lads

[Torquemada 1420]

Easy to see why Dulin is nowhere on the intl radar. Everything he has done in this 30 mins has been wrong and FB is all about making the right calls.

[Ovals]

Terribe maul defence from the Sharks

Quins needed that to get the impetus back.

Very entertaining game. Quins are great fun to watch.

[JM2K6]

Interesting how the Sharks have struggled so much to deal with Will Evans at the breakdown. Reminiscent of all the complaints about English teams and fetchers over the years.

[Biffer]

This is an *ahem* unique interpretation of the ball being out.

Do you think? Marler was very clearly not bound on the ruck.

He was bound originally and it's not really a thing we've seen before where a player hitting a ruck causes an extension of the arm and leading to an "out" call, but I think it's fair enough.

Etzebeth is not onside though. He's always standing a yard in front.

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Clearly offside.

[JM2K6]

Wow, that's a marginal sealing off call.

[Simian]

Do you think? Marler was very clearly not bound on the ruck.

He was bound originally and it's not really a thing we've seen before where a player hitting a ruck causes an extension of the arm and leading to an "out" call, but I think it's fair enough.

Etzebeth is not onside though. He's always standing a yard in front.

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Clearly offside.

did I hear the ref right and he said they'd checked that and that he'd come from an onside position? (not saying he had, just curious if the ref had actually said that)

[JM2K6]

He was bound originally and it's not really a thing we've seen before where a player hitting a ruck causes an extension of the arm and leading to an "out" call, but I think it's fair enough.

Etzebeth is not onside though. He's always standing a yard in front.

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Clearly offside.

did I hear the ref right and he said they'd checked that and that he'd come from an onside position? (not saying he had, just curious if the ref had actually said that)

TMO checked it and said that.

[Jim Lahey]

This is an *ahem* unique interpretation of the ball being out.

Do you think? Marler was very clearly not bound on the ruck.

He was bound originally and it's not really a thing we've seen before where a player hitting a ruck causes an extension of the arm and leading to an "out" call, but I think it's fair enough.

Etzebeth is not onside though. He's always standing a yard in front.

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Meh, hard to have any sympathy for the side creating the caterpillar ruck, in general tbf.

Great way to erradicate it, once its set up you can be as offside/in the side/dive over as you like

[Simian]

Wow, that's a marginal sealing off call.

indeed... thought the next sharks pen could have just as easily gone against etzebeth too

[Simian]

Clearly offside.

did I hear the ref right and he said they'd checked that and that he'd come from an onside position? (not saying he had, just curious if the ref had actually said that)

TMO checked it and said that.

ta. thought he'd said that.

[JM2K6]

Do you think? Marler was very clearly not bound on the ruck.

He was bound originally and it's not really a thing we've seen before where a player hitting a ruck causes an extension of the arm and leading to an "out" call, but I think it's fair enough.

Etzebeth is not onside though. He's always standing a yard in front.

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Meh, hard to have any sympathy for the side creating the caterpillar ruck, in general tbf.

Great way to erradicate it, once its set up you can be as offside/in the side/dive over as you like

Any side = every side. I agree with the intent! Just a bit strange to have it as a "gotcha" suddenly halfway through the season, while ignoring other calls.

Holy shit that is superb by David

[OomStruisbaai]

What a player Davids is. Bliksem.

[Marylandolorian]

Easy to see why Dulin is nowhere on the intl radar. Everything he has done in this 30 mins has been wrong and FB is all about making the right calls.

Typical Dulin, one good action and 2 very bad ones .