Ireland v France match thread

[Duff Paddy]

Can’t wait to see this on the Netflix documentary

[Nols]

Awesome game to watch. Super 3rd quarter.

Pretty average second half tbh.
Game ruined by Barnes.

However well deserved win which would have been much more of the red was given.

Maybe not in terms of pure quality rugby, but riding out the french attacks, restricting them to a drop goal, and then playing the corners to put the pressure back on them.
They got a bit loose when France scored in yh first half, bit got back in control.

[C69]

Yeah they are shitting themselves

Pretty appalling tbh. But quite funny.
Game ruined by the officials

Switched on the wrong match ey. Never mind, is strictly on later?

Don't know what strictly is tbh.

[petej]

Now Barnes penalizing Ireland...

Not actually helpful for Ireland as Refs less likely to let so much go at world cups and do less "coaching".

[Winnie]

What a fantastic game of rugby

Best two sides in the world and showed why

[dob]

Ireland to slam now

We should but we tend not to finish these jobs off

We’ve beat the best other team in the comp. If we’ve had a tendency when missing a slam, it’s been to lose to the other best team, be it Wales, England or France.

[Torquemada 1420]

Ntamack is the stone in the French shoe

Jesus: on the Fre side I'm still getting "Yay, yay, Jalibert missed a tackle so Ntamack is the greatest".

[Flockwitt]

Superb all round game by the Irish.

But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.

[dob]

Pretty appalling tbh. But quite funny.
Game ruined by the officials

One of the best test matches ever at Lansdowne so no.

Aviva*

Wrong-sort bandwagoner alert. Probably don’t even OWN a sheepskin.

[CM11]

If there are no repurcussions on the Irish TV team for this it stinks.

Yeah they are shitting themselves

If Anderson was in charge they certainly would be, the rotters.

Strange time to get worked up about the TV director. It's been around nearly a decade now

Hang on, this is about the Lowe try?

TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.

The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.

[fishfoodie]

If there are no repurcussions on the Irish TV team for this it stinks.

I AGREE !!!!








whoever was driving Spider Cam needs to retake their driving test !

[Luckycharmer]

Brilliant game, well done Ross great off bench, Doris something else. TOT great cameo and Penaud was phenomenal for France.

[CM11]

Pretty appalling tbh. But quite funny.
Game ruined by the officials

One of the best test matches ever at Lansdowne so no.

Aviva*

What the actual fúck Floppy? Are you contractually obliged to mention the sponsor or something. It's either Lansdowne Rd, or if you insist, LR2.

[Torquemada 1420]

Jalibert will start next day

How much money would you lay on that? France is polarised on this. As I said earlier, we had the Midi Olympique analysts, after last week, in exasperation saying Jalibert will never start, no matter what. It's Eddie Jones/Youngs all over.

[dkm57]

Great match, can't see anyone getting close to Ireland this year.

[CM11]

Anyway, fantastic game. Would have gone the other way in France.

[redderneck]

Superb all round game by the Irish.

But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.

There seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.

[CM11]

Ireland to slam now

We should but we tend not to finish these jobs off

We’ve beat the best other team in the comp. If we’ve had a tendency when missing a slam, it’s been to lose to the other best team, be it Wales, England or France.

Yep. Don't understand that comment.

[TheFrog]

Jalibert will start next day

His contribution has been pretty shite too. A terrible missed tackle that led to a try. 2 aimless kicks giving away posession without pressurizing the Irish defense.

[redderneck]

Anyway, fantastic game. Would have gone the other way in France.

Quite possibly. But possibly not - and that’s moving up the curve. Take that.

[Torquemada 1420]

The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.

Agree. There is no way Barnes could have anything other than uncertainty and in that situation, you always call "Onfield, no try". It's long overdue that he retired.

[lemonhead]

Yeah they are shitting themselves

If Anderson was in charge they certainly would be, the rotters.

Strange time to get worked up about the TV director. It's been around nearly a decade now

Hang on, this is about the Lowe try?

TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.

The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.

It may be different for internationals but at Heineken level the TMO does not have access to their own set of Matrix screens covering everything.

Joy Neville was clearly heard on ref mic recently saying she'd requested additional camera angles from the director when asked to review an incident.

[CM11]

Superb all round game by the Irish.

But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.

There seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.

Tbf, Dupont didn't seem to be flagging. And was certainly key to France having any chance. We couldn't handle himself and the two wingers.

[redderneck]

Doris’ pass out of contact. I think I owe the Mrs a new set of curtains.

[TheFrog]

Superb all round game by the Irish.

But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.

There seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.

And the same applies in Toulouse.

I am not sure Dupont makes it to the World Cup at that rate.

[Duff Paddy]

Doris’ pass out of contact. I think I owe the Mrs a new set of curtains.

He has it all.

Ringrose just handed off a French defender like he wasn’t there

[TheFrog]

Superb all round game by the Irish.

But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.

There seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.

Tbf, Dupont didn't seem to be flagging. And was certainly key to France having any chance. We couldn't handle himself and the two wingers.

He was. That ruck in the Irish 22s where he is not back. His kick blocked 2 minutes later. He was in the red.

[Flockwitt]

Superb all round game by the Irish.

But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.

There seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.

Yep. Or like Oz with Gregan - couldn't move on. Cuts both ways, stuffs the player up and there's no plan B/confidence for the team when the player is out with injury.

[Raggs]

The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.

Agree. There is no way Barnes could have anything other than uncertainty and in that situation, you always call "Onfield, no try". It's long overdue that he retired.

Seemed like it was his linesman that called that he'd seen the grounding.

[TheFrog]

And I assume Torque thinks Jelonch is shit because he knocked on a ball - he wasn't expecting - on the try line.

[Torquemada 1420]

Jalibert will start next day

His contribution has been pretty shite too. A terrible missed tackle that led to a try. 2 aimless kicks giving away posession without pressurizing the Irish defense.

Oh do f**k off. I pointed out immediately that he came on that Galthie had f**ked up and had to reshuffle the backline. FB is a position I'd not play Jalibert in at Pro2 precisely because you cannot leave him isolated without tackle cover. FHs get that in the 10 channel but no-one is coming to your rescue as last man. And what did you expect him to do offensively from FB, deep in own half and chasing 2 scores?

This was real easy......... for a coach who had a brain cell or wasn't determined to prove a point
- Dumortier to FB: where he regularly plays for UBB
- Moefana to wing where he's played most of his games for France
- Ntamack to 12 where he's played loads for ST and he can tackle in that channel
- Jalibert at FH

I'd almost believe that it was such a retard decision to put Jalibert in the worst place possible, that is was on purpose just so idiots in France could come on and say "See, Jalibert is no good". FM.

[TheFrog]

It shows why Galthie preferred the kick and chase too
When we try to keep ball in hand we struggled to gain ground. We are better in broken play. However with the new way of referring rucks, turnovers will be rarer.

France have a mountain to climb.

[dob]

Superb all round game by the Irish.

But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.

There seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.

At least with BOD he was at 13 and could take a breather during the game. A scrum half can’t do that.

[spike]

Yeah they are shitting themselves

If Anderson was in charge they certainly would be, the rotters.

Strange time to get worked up about the TV director. It's been around nearly a decade now

Hang on, this is about the Lowe try?

TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.

The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.

that reverse angle though definitely showed the ground contact, so presumably the tmo didnt have it available

[Torquemada 1420]

And I assume Torque thinks Jelonch is shit because he knocked on a ball - he wasn't expecting - on the try line.

Read what I wrote earlier.

The knock on was his fault. Jelonch had his best game for at least a year. For once he actually did some link play. In fact, he really was the only backrow who shone. Alldritt was very quiet again which is worrying and Ollivon is looking for all the world like a man who has had one too many serious injuries.

[ASMO]

If Anderson was in charge they certainly would be, the rotters.

Strange time to get worked up about the TV director. It's been around nearly a decade now

Hang on, this is about the Lowe try?

TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.

The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.

that reverse angle though definitely showed the ground contact, so presumably the tmo didnt have it available

Made no difference, better side clearly won.

Dupont however, just head and shoulders above everyone else right now

[TheFrog]

If Anderson was in charge they certainly would be, the rotters.

Strange time to get worked up about the TV director. It's been around nearly a decade now

Hang on, this is about the Lowe try?

TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.

The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.

that reverse angle though definitely showed the ground contact, so presumably the tmo didnt have it available

Well, at least we won't hear so much about French TV directors.

[redderneck]

Superb all round game by the Irish.

But what the heck are France trying to do to one of the best players on the planet. Don't they have a substitute 9? There's zero point in playing him into the ground when you're chasing two scores.

There seems to be the same mental hang up we used to have about BOD. We’re not winning without him/he’s the gravy. It’s dangerous for a squad. Or Italian forwards standing around watching Parisse play one a side.

At least with BOD he was at 13 and could take a breather during the game. A scrum half can’t do that.

True enough.

On a sidebar. I said last week how brutal the modern game is on the scoreboard. The final score often no longer gives you an entirely ‘fair’ sense of how competitive a game really was. That was in the balance right up to the final ten or so.

[TheFrog]

And I assume Torque thinks Jelonch is shit because he knocked on a ball - he wasn't expecting - on the try line.

Read what I wrote earlier.

The knock on was his fault. Jelonch had his best game for at least a year. For once he actually did some link play. In fact, he really was the only backrow who shone. Alldritt was very quiet again which is worrying and Ollivon is looking for all the world like a man who has had one too many serious injuries.

That ball should never have left the lineout. It should have been a maul. Jelonch never expected that ball.

[spike]

Hang on, this is about the Lowe try?

TMO is in van with more angles than we see on TV. He's not just reviewing what we see on TV. He's running many angles at the same time to judge grounding.

The problem was Barnes saying onfield try.

that reverse angle though definitely showed the ground contact, so presumably the tmo didnt have it available

Well, at least we won't hear so much about French TV directors.

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