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Auckman wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:02 am
Guy Smiley wrote: Sat Apr 01, 2023 5:20 pm Headlines about Dmac outplaying BB and making a claim for the ABs 10 jersey. Half the country is still under the razzle dazzle spell... and this pic tells a story,

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who goes into any sort of despairing lunge tackle making a fist? Someone who doesn't believe in themselves and isn't going to try.
May it please your honour, my client was clearly attempting to trip DMac up by knocking one leg onto the other in time honoured fashion. I submit this was the correct procedure to follow in these circumstances where he was clearly beaten. A not guilty verdict is the only feasible outcome open to your honour on the basis of the evidence (ie: one photo).

#Justice4BB
Over ruled 😂
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Enzedder wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:47 am
broeyes wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:41 am BB kind of looks depressed recently.

I certainly find his form for the Blues depressing.
After years of abuse from know-nothings on the "interweb", I'm not surprised.

They are abused more than buck-toothed Prime Ministers, especially if they are from the wrong province.
Do they actually check the forums and comments or is it some how leaving a hidden psychic imprint on them? Just background negative vibes in the universe causing psychic emotional damage?
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Enzedder wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:47 am
broeyes wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 1:41 am BB kind of looks depressed recently.

I certainly find his form for the Blues depressing.
After years of abuse from know-nothings on the "interweb", I'm not surprised.

They are abused more than buck-toothed Prime Ministers, especially if they are from the wrong province.
Amen NZer
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Kiwias wrote: Sun Apr 02, 2023 5:22 am Great comeback by the Force but not quite enough.
Were never going to win it Kiwias, Canes were down to 12'5 players at end, but still never looked like losing.
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Grandpa wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:34 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:27 pm I guess this is the best place to put this, being a sort of default NZ rugby thread...

Sky Sport have excluded Justin Marshall from their RWC commentary team.


W0000 H0000 :lol:
Who is on it?

But we don't get your commentary so doesn't matter really. I don't really like any NZ pundits apart from Mehrtens anyway.
If you think Merts is best, you obviously stuck somewhere like Aus Grandpa. We got plenty of good commentators, some people don't like, and I can't even remember some of their names. but Ben Castle etc are all pretty good. Commentators don't worry me too much anyway, most people seem to only like those that blow the air up the arses of their provinces, or countries. Amuses that when people say they dislike commentators from NZ,SA,Aus, Pommy land etc, some suit me more than others (a lot of pommy ones doing Heinekein Cup etc) and screamers can annoy me, but it's all taste. All you need is for them to say who has the ball etc. Much like rating players.
Whereever possible I actually go to games, and find I can watch it without taking notice of commentators anyway.
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That was an ugly win for the Crusaders, but we still managed to win. Which is in itself an achievement given we have 17 members of the squad injured plus we lost Fainga'anuku and Goodue on the night. Very happy for Mo'unga to reach his 100 games for the Crusaders, and he was one of the few Crusaders who played well. Jeff Wilson repeatedly called him the most influential Super Rugby player ever, and I strongly agree.

Really like the look of young Dominic Gardiner. I don't think he's a longterm lock, but I like the look of him as a 6. He's got a great workrate and his a handy ball-runner. Will be interesting to see where he fits in to the team when the likes of Whitelock, Barrett, Grace and Blackadder return.
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Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:08 amReally like the look of young Dominic Gardiner. I don't think he's a longterm lock, but I like the look of him as a 6. He's got a great workrate and his a handy ball-runner. Will be interesting to see where he fits in to the team when the likes of Whitelock, Barrett, Grace and Blackadder return.
Yep, he's been very good. Really caught the eye on last year's NZ XV tour, and continues to impress. RWC bolter?
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Gumboot wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:46 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:08 amReally like the look of young Dominic Gardiner. I don't think he's a longterm lock, but I like the look of him as a 6. He's got a great workrate and his a handy ball-runner. Will be interesting to see where he fits in to the team when the likes of Whitelock, Barrett, Grace and Blackadder return.
Yep, he's been very good. Really caught the eye on last year's NZ XV tour, and continues to impress. RWC bolter?
If Foster is going to continue to play Savea at 8, alongside Cane or Papalii at 7, then we need a genuine, test level lineout target at 6. So either Barrett or Vaa'i will be moved to 6, or a taller blindside flanker like Suafua , Ah Kuoi or Gardiner will need to be introduced.
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Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:50 am
Gumboot wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:46 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:08 amReally like the look of young Dominic Gardiner. I don't think he's a longterm lock, but I like the look of him as a 6. He's got a great workrate and his a handy ball-runner. Will be interesting to see where he fits in to the team when the likes of Whitelock, Barrett, Grace and Blackadder return.
Yep, he's been very good. Really caught the eye on last year's NZ XV tour, and continues to impress. RWC bolter?
If Foster is going to continue to play Savea at 8, alongside Cane or Papalii at 7, then we need a genuine, test level lineout target at 6. So either Barrett or Vaa'i will be moved to 6, or a taller blindside flanker like Suafua , Ah Kuoi or Gardiner will need to be introduced.
I've seen little to indicate either of the other two you mentioned are anywhere near ready for test rugby. Good players, but All Blacks?
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Gumboot wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:55 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:50 am
Gumboot wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 5:46 am

Yep, he's been very good. Really caught the eye on last year's NZ XV tour, and continues to impress. RWC bolter?
If Foster is going to continue to play Savea at 8, alongside Cane or Papalii at 7, then we need a genuine, test level lineout target at 6. So either Barrett or Vaa'i will be moved to 6, or a taller blindside flanker like Suafua , Ah Kuoi or Gardiner will need to be introduced.
I've seen little to indicate either of the other two you mentioned are anywhere near ready for test rugby. Good players, but All Blacks?
Yeah, i've seen nothing from either that suggests they are good enough to be starting AB's, I was just throwing their names up because they are the only options for 6 who are genuine lineout targets.
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There's definitely something about Gardiner, though. I really hope he kicks on, given our ongoing struggles at 6 since Kaino left.
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We've invested a lot of time and resources on the likes of Ioane, so I can't see Foster doing a u-turn. Maybe Jacobson is our best hope.
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BTW, PR has shit its pants again. :yawn:
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Is Ioane still in the picture for RWC? Surely he has had his chances.
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Ted. wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:33 am BTW, PR has shit its pants again. :yawn:
Yep
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Game of the round kicking off shortly in Dunedin.

Highlanders: 1-Ethan de Groot, 2-Andrew Makalio, 3-Jermaine Ainsley, 4-Pari Pari Parkinson, 5-Josh Dickson, 6-Shannon Frizell, 7-Billy Harmon, 8-Hugh Renton, 9-Folau Fakatava, 10-Mitch Hunt, 11-Jonah Lowe, 12-Thomas Umaga-Jensen, 13-Fetuli Paea, 14-Moses Dawai, 15-Sam Gilbert
Reserves: 16-Leni Apisai, 17-Daniel Lienert-Brown, 18-Saula Ma'u, 19-Max Hicks, 20-Sean Withy, 21-James Arscott, 22-Scott Gregory, 23-Marino Mikaele-Tu'u

Hurricanes: 1-Xavier Numia, 2-Dane Coles, 3-Tyrel Lomax, 4-James Blackwell, 5-Isaia Walker-Leawere, 7-Du'Plessis Kirifi, 8-Ardie Savea, 9-Cameron Roigard, 10-Aidan Morgan, 11-Salesi Rayasi, 12-Jordie Barrett, 13-Billy Proctor, 14-Julian Savea, 16-Josh Moorby
Reserves: 16-Asafo Aumua, 17-Pouri Rakete-Stones, 18-Owen Franks, 19-TK Howden, 20-Peter Lakai, 21-Jamie Booth, 22-Harry Godfrey, 23-Peter Umaga-Jensen

Some tasty match-ups tonight: de Groot v Lomax; Fakatava v Roigard; Thomas Umaga-Jensen v Barrett...
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Ted. wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:33 am BTW, PR has shit its pants again. :yawn:
It shouldn’t be down long, it’s a high tech operation.

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Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:38 am
Ted. wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:33 am BTW, PR has shit its pants again. :yawn:
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I'd be surprised if Foster introduces anyone new outside of the ABs XV.

Luke Jacobson would probably be picked before Gardiner who was part of the ABs XV.

I thought Ah Kuoi and Suafoa deserved to go on NPC form ahead of Gardiner but outside of lots of injuries I don't see either Ah Kuoi or Suafoa being on the mix.
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broeyes wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:05 am I'd be surprised if Foster introduces anyone new outside of the ABs XV.

Luke Jacobson would probably be picked before Gardiner who was part of the ABs XV.

I thought Ah Kuoi and Suafoa deserved to go on NPC form ahead of Gardiner but outside of lots of injuries I don't see either Ah Kuoi or Suafoa being on the mix.
I wouldn't mind Jacobson making the squad, especially after he missed out on the last RWC. He's in good nick, long may it last.
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Dan54 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 4:25 am
Grandpa wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:34 pm
Guy Smiley wrote: Thu Apr 06, 2023 9:27 pm I guess this is the best place to put this, being a sort of default NZ rugby thread...

Sky Sport have excluded Justin Marshall from their RWC commentary team.


W0000 H0000 :lol:
Who is on it?

But we don't get your commentary so doesn't matter really. I don't really like any NZ pundits apart from Mehrtens anyway.
If you think Merts is best, you obviously stuck somewhere like Aus Grandpa. We got plenty of good commentators, some people don't like, and I can't even remember some of their names. but Ben Castle etc are all pretty good. Commentators don't worry me too much anyway, most people seem to only like those that blow the air up the arses of their provinces, or countries. Amuses that when people say they dislike commentators from NZ,SA,Aus, Pommy land etc, some suit me more than others (a lot of pommy ones doing Heinekein Cup etc) and screamers can annoy me, but it's all taste. All you need is for them to say who has the ball etc. Much like rating players.
Whereever possible I actually go to games, and find I can watch it without taking notice of commentators anyway.
I'm in the UK Dan. Who is a better pundit than Mehrtens? He mixes intelligent analysis with great humour...
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Gumboot wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:08 am
broeyes wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:05 am I'd be surprised if Foster introduces anyone new outside of the ABs XV.

Luke Jacobson would probably be picked before Gardiner who was part of the ABs XV.

I thought Ah Kuoi and Suafoa deserved to go on NPC form ahead of Gardiner but outside of lots of injuries I don't see either Ah Kuoi or Suafoa being on the mix.
I wouldn't mind Jacobson making the squad, especially after he missed out on the last RWC. He's in good nick, long may it last.
I'd take him over Ioane.
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Kiwias wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:15 amI'd take him over Ioane.
Every day of the week.
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Great break by Kirifi, great pass inside, bungled.

Like watching the Reds…
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de Groot looking dominant already
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Where was the Canes 6 in defense there?
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Poor defense from Roigard there.

Renton is in career best form.
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On paper this is easily a Canes win but I've got it as a tight one, mainly because the Canes have been defensively woeful this season.
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JB at 12 really is a terrible option. :thumbdown:
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Gumboot wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:08 am
broeyes wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:05 am I'd be surprised if Foster introduces anyone new outside of the ABs XV.

Luke Jacobson would probably be picked before Gardiner who was part of the ABs XV.

I thought Ah Kuoi and Suafoa deserved to go on NPC form ahead of Gardiner but outside of lots of injuries I don't see either Ah Kuoi or Suafoa being on the mix.
I wouldn't mind Jacobson making the squad, especially after he missed out on the last RWC. He's in good nick, long may it last.
Yup. Broeyes makes a bit of sense here too👍
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Terrible call by the ref: legit by both Canes players over the ball.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:32 am JB at 12 really is a terrible option. :thumbdown:
He'll be the All Blacks 12.... :thumbup:
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Hands on ground ahead of the ball.
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Highlanders forwards killing the canes forwards.
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So one hand on the ball is enough for a penalty... :lol:
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Grandpa wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:40 am So one hand on the ball is enough for a penalty... :lol:
Not a great reffing display so far. How was that last scrum on the Lander's line not a pen to the Canes?
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Surprised the Highlanders didn't take the points with those penalties in front.

They may regret that later
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:48 am
Grandpa wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:40 am So one hand on the ball is enough for a penalty... :lol:
Not a great reffing display so far. How was that last scrum on the Lander's line not a pen to the Canes?
I'm stumped by many of his decisions today... both what he is blowing for.. and what he is missing...
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Guy Smiley wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 7:05 am
Carter's Choice wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:38 am
Ted. wrote: Sat Apr 08, 2023 6:33 am BTW, PR has shit its pants again. :yawn:
Yep
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Canes lucky to get away with not conceding more and possibly a man in the bin, but the Highlanders dodged a huge one tat last scrum down their end. The ref was asleep then the TMO was for the supposed Morgan knock on. The Midget, as is his want, is stinking up the place. After one peanlty, the ref has then invited de Groot to walk it around a couple more times... maybe he needs the practice.

I don't have a good feeling about this. We could easily get a man in the bin then concede a heap.
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