2022/23 Champions/Challenge Cup

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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:41 pm 32 mins and 1st pen to Toulouse? Not quite up to Owen's record of 70+ minutes in favour of an Irish team.
What’s the officially approved minutes per penalty rate? 😉
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Great try. Dupont continues to be ridiculous, great finish too.

Tip tackle ignored. Replays strangely unavailable.
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How the feck is Porter still on the field?
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Meafou really is a freak of a lump. His hands are better than many backs.

No idea where Ntamack was for that 50:22.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:44 pm Great try. Dupont continues to be ridiculous, great finish too.

Tip tackle ignored. Replays strangely unavailable.
3rd one I reckon.
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I've taken another look and the Porter tackle off the ball is a nailed on card, maybe even a red. Lift, tip, and chuck on the floor. Probably just back contact rather than head but hugely dangerous.

Absolute filth, real scumbag stuff
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A breakdown pen to Toulouse :shock:
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C69 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:44 pm How the feck is Porter still on the field?
Do I read this in conjunction with the tip tackle post?
Just seen previous post. Wonder if they’ll show it at HT. I’m
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Obvious neck roll missed too. AR on this aside is having a very very strange game.
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for the tip
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:47 pm I've taken another look and the Porter tackle off the ball is a nailed on card, maybe even a red. Lift, tip, and chuck on the floor. Probably just back contact rather than head but hugely dangerous.

Absolute filth, real scumbag stuff
It's astonishing. I missed it at first but then on the replays it's just ridiculous. Totally ignored by the studio at half time
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:47 pm I've taken another look and the Porter tackle off the ball is a nailed on card, maybe even a red. Lift, tip, and chuck on the floor. Probably just back contact rather than head but hugely dangerous.

Absolute filth, real scumbag stuff
Well, maybe we won't hear so much next time about Fre TV/TMO.

Meantime Mola has to take Graou off. Or move the klutz to FB and Ramos to 10.
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Jaysus lads, I thought this was the reasonable forum but 90% of the posts on the game are ref complaints. Meanwhile everyone else is enjoying two positive sides giving us a great game.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:06 pm for the tip
Not like Mallia didn't flag it.

I'm going to bet the one on Willis early on was worse.
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Barnes tells Porter he's illegal in that maul so he breaks off and immediately rejoins illegally and disrupts it, forcing the ball to be played.
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CM11 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:08 pm Jaysus lads, I thought this was the reasonable forum but 90% of the posts on the game are ref complaints. Meanwhile everyone else is enjoying two positive sides giving us a great game.
Well the huge disparity in the penalty count and a couple of extremely impactful and bizarre decisions are major talking points, and we've also talked about the failings on the Toulouse side. But there's basically only a couple of people posting about the match - I was the first person to do so a long time after kickoff. So perhaps less complaining about posting and more being happy that anyone even gives enough of a shit to talk about it.

better view of it.
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Blackmac wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:07 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 2:47 pm I've taken another look and the Porter tackle off the ball is a nailed on card, maybe even a red. Lift, tip, and chuck on the floor. Probably just back contact rather than head but hugely dangerous.

Absolute filth, real scumbag stuff
Totally ignored by the studio at half time
Quelle surprise.
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FFS, get Graou away from 9.
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That is another of those stupid laws in rugby.
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Need to get Marchand on now as last throw off the di.
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F**k off Barnes. Blatant neck tackle.
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Am I seeing things? I thought there was a clear neck tackle before that scrum.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:20 pm F**k off Barnes. Blatant neck tackle.
I'm comforted now.
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Only foul play is by van der Flier.

Funny how the officials find that one to review.
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Un f**king believable. VDF comes in with no arms there. Utter joke.

Barnes needs to f**k off into retirement.
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Gosh
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:24 pm Only foul play is by van der Flier.

Funny how the officials find that one to review.


The incident was caused entirely by van der Flier, the ball was lost
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Jokeshop decision, Barnes utterly riding Toulouse.
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Ignoring the Porter incident and issuing a card for that is jokeshop stuff.
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This is strange. Van der Flier runs upright into a ruck, the static defending player dips his head into his chest and then uses his head to get rid of him. It is dangerous, but a) you absolutely can't run into a ruck upright and be considered an innocent party, and b) it very much did not deserve the scream, the amateur theatrics, the lying on the floor, followed by immediately getting up to remonstrate with the AR when it wasn't immediately given.

Toulouse player deserves the yellow I think, you can't do that. But all very odd.
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I think Gibson Park joined the maul in front of the ball
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No HIA for VdF? He was lying prone - surely can't continue. Unless...
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Game is over as a spectacle now, will watch something else
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That's just incredible. Entirely VDF's fault that. What was he trying to do, charging into a ruck like that.
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JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:27 pm This is strange. Van der Flier runs upright into a ruck, the static defending player dips his head into his chest and then uses his head to get rid of him. It is dangerous, but a) you absolutely can't run into a ruck upright and be considered an innocent party, and b) it very much did not deserve the scream, the amateur theatrics, the lying on the floor, followed by immediately getting up to remonstrate with the AR when it wasn't immediately given.

Toulouse player deserves the yellow I think, you can't do that. But all very odd.
Neti did exactly what I or anyone else would have done initially i.e. duck to protect his head. Not sure about his lifting it after.

As for VDF going all Huget/wendyball, what an embarrassing cheat. Hopefully Fra will meet Ire later in the year and someone will sort the c**t out.
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Tichtheid wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:26 pm
Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:24 pm Only foul play is by van der Flier.

Funny how the officials find that one to review.


The incident was caused entirely by van der Flier, the ball was lost
Insane officiating. VdF has 2 goes running at a player standing still, the 2nd leading with his shoulder with no hope of winning the ball. Then the theatrics on and off the pitch.

I genuinely can barely watch Irish teams playing, the crowd, the players, the commentators are all just so awful.
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Torquemada 1420 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:31 pm
JM2K6 wrote: Sat Apr 29, 2023 3:27 pm This is strange. Van der Flier runs upright into a ruck, the static defending player dips his head into his chest and then uses his head to get rid of him. It is dangerous, but a) you absolutely can't run into a ruck upright and be considered an innocent party, and b) it very much did not deserve the scream, the amateur theatrics, the lying on the floor, followed by immediately getting up to remonstrate with the AR when it wasn't immediately given.

Toulouse player deserves the yellow I think, you can't do that. But all very odd.
Neti did exactly what I or anyone else would have done initially i.e. duck to protect his head. Not sure about his lifting it after.

As for VDF going all Huget/wendyball, what an embarrassing cheat. Hopefully Fra will meet Ire later in the year and someone will sort the c**t out.
Yeah I'm fine with the initial duck but he then barges forward using his head as the weapon and then up, making head contact. It's stupid and illegal. Would not argue too much if it was just a penalty.

VdF has risen from the dead here - incredible impact after being face down and motionless on the floor only a few minutes ago. Remarkable recovery.

Leinster will likely get 50 here. Best side in Europe and they absolutely do not need all the gifts they've been given today by the officials and Toulouse.
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VDF has for for that sort of shit. Disgraceful.
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I was as surprised as anyone that the Porter tackle wasn't reviewed.
But the salty tears on here are getting a bit silly now. Torq has the excuse of being French, not sure about others.
Over the hills and far away........
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Surely in that incident VdF initiated the contact so is essentially the tackler and was always hitting the guy too high and deliberately high.
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