So did you believe E Jean Carroll or the Shitgibbon ?

[fishfoodie]

Did the Jury get it right ?

[Guy Smiley]

The guy boasted about grabbing women by the pussy. The jury managed a fine balancing act in pinging the cnut while not venturing out into contestable waters.

[Chilli]

The guy boasted about grabbing women by the pussy. The jury managed a fine balancing act in pinging the cnut while not venturing out into contestable waters.

This

[Ymx]

I’ve just read about a gigantic pay out.

But what was actually accused?

[convoluted]

Utter farce.
She claimed he raped her; the jury disagreed.
Yet he is found guilty of defaming her and ordered to pay millions ... but the very verdict itself clearly indicates that it is she who has defamed him.

I happened to catch her original claim live on TV 4 or so years ago.
Back then, she couldn't even specify a year or even get within a vague approximate couple of years.
And she claimed she'd immediately told two friends -- seriously, who on here is so bereft of knowledge about women that they believe that through all the subsequent decades of Trump prominence, particularly once he'd started his presidential bid, that neither of those two women passed the Carrol claim onto a single other person either openly as insider gossip or discretely? By the time he was elected, Chinese whispers should have made this common street knowledge throughout the entire country. But there wasn't so much as a hint of it.
And then as Carroll closed her revelation live, she announced that the rape was all detailed in a book she'd just written, ffs!!

Within an hour or two, CNN immediately ushered her onto the Anderson Cooper program where she clearly freaked Cooper out with her lunacy, at one stage creeping him by murmuring what a gorgeous or lovely man he was. She was so obviously a complete loon that on the assembled panel that followed, the black female CNN reporter who along with Jim Acosta always insisted on trying to dominate the Trump press conferences, declared that an actual Carroll rape trial would be un-necessary because Trump 'was guilty (of the 'rape') in the court of public opinion'. i.e the reporter was stating the obvious, which was that Surely Not A Single Person on the planet would be such a fumbduck as to seriously believe Carroll's arrant nonsense.
That reporter clearly didn't follow this forum (if then in existence) or its predecessor.

[TB63]

Yeah, riiiiiight.....

[TB63]

I find it absolutely incredible that the guy who openly admitted to sexually abusing women.."grab them by the pussy"..

Was found guilty of sexually abusing women......

[dpedin]

I find it absolutely incredible that the guy who openly admitted to sexually abusing women.."grab them by the pussy"..

Was found guilty of sexually abusing women......

Karma! Even for Trump the lies and deceits catches up with you. The boasting about his misogyny and treatment of women has come home to roost. I wouldn't trust a word he has ever said and apparently neither did the jury. More cases and convictions coming his way ...

[Guy Smiley]

MakeAmericaConvolutedAgain

[Line6 HXFX]

Does anyone here say stuff like " I can get away with grabbing women by the pussies, as I am famous"?

That is next level Jimmy Saville Shite.

If you walk into a courtroom having been recorded saying that, let's be honest you are instantly fucking with the balance of probabilities.

Silencing or paying off and lying about pornstars, saying stuff like "during miss World theywould let me into the women's changing rooms".
And then just the fucking rage of him and his supporters at the women who came forward...the dehumanisation and intimidation.

But having said tyat, and having sat on a Jury, 5 times, each time we took peoples guilt extremely seriously. If there was any doubt, or case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, we always went innocent. We all had a seriously healthy scepticism about the prosecution and police.

I am sure once, after not guilty'ing..one copper wanted to jump into the Jury box and beat me up.
He couldn't stop glaring right at me.

...didn't fucking help I was glaring right at him, with utter disbelief during his testomony.

[dpedin]

Does anyone here say stuff like " I can get away with grabbing women by the pussies, as I am famous"?

That is next level Jimmy Saville Shite.

If you walk into a courtroom having been recorded saying that, let's be honest you are instantly fucking with the balance of possibilities.

Silencing or paying off and lying about pornstars, saying stuff like "during miss World theywould let me into the women's changing rooms".
And then just the fucking rage of him and his supporters at the women who came forward...the dehumanisation and intimidation.

But having said tyat, and having sat on a Jury, 5 times, each time we took peoples guilt extremely seriously. If there was any doubt, or case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, we always went innocent. We all had a seriously healthy scepticism about the prosecution and police.

I am sure once, after not guilty'ing..one copper wanted to jump into the Jury box and beat me up.
He couldn't stop glaring right at me.

...didn't fucking help I was glaring right at him, with utter disbelief during his testomony.

Ditto - done jury duty 3 times and took it very seriously knowing the consequences of our decision on accused and victims. I have no reason to doubt this jury did the same and on the balance of the evidence presented came to their decision in what seems to be a very quick time. The evidence must have been very clear. The Shitgibbon will pay up!

[TB63]

[Kiwias]

The one where he mistakes E Jean Carroll for his second wife is incredibly telling because he had insisted throughout that Carroll was not his type, that he was not attracted to her yet he thought she was a woman he fancied enough to marry.

What an absolute piece of shit of a human being.

[SaintK]

The one where he mistakes E Jean Carroll for his second wife is incredibly telling because he had insisted throughout that Carroll was not his type, that he was not attracted to her yet he thought she was a woman he fancied enough to marry.

What an absolute piece of shit of a human being.

Far too kind!!!

[inactionman]

It's actually a pretty good test of someone's credulity - anyone who believes a word Donald Trump says should not be allowed out of the house unescorted.

[C69]

It's actually a pretty good test of someone's credulity - anyone who believes a word Donald Trump says should not be allowed out of the house unescorted.

Tbh Trump is well known to escorts.

[fishfoodie]

Does anyone here say stuff like " I can get away with grabbing women by the pussies, as I am famous"?

That is next level Jimmy Saville Shite.

If you walk into a courtroom having been recorded saying that, let's be honest you are instantly fucking with the balance of probabilities.

Silencing or paying off and lying about pornstars, saying stuff like "during miss World theywould let me into the women's changing rooms".
And then just the fucking rage of him and his supporters at the women who came forward...the dehumanisation and intimidation.

How right you are.

It wasn't Miss World, it was Miss Teen USA !!!

The creep was perving on jailbait girls at a pagent in his shitty hotel, & he knew damn well they were underage.

[shaggy]

Does anyone here say stuff like " I can get away with grabbing women by the pussies, as I am famous"?

That is next level Jimmy Saville Shite.

If you walk into a courtroom having been recorded saying that, let's be honest you are instantly fucking with the balance of probabilities.

Silencing or paying off and lying about pornstars, saying stuff like "during miss World theywould let me into the women's changing rooms".
And then just the fucking rage of him and his supporters at the women who came forward...the dehumanisation and intimidation.

But having said tyat, and having sat on a Jury, 5 times, each time we took peoples guilt extremely seriously. If there was any doubt, or case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, we always went innocent. We all had a seriously healthy scepticism about the prosecution and police.

I am sure once, after not guilty'ing..one copper wanted to jump into the Jury box and beat me up.
He couldn't stop glaring right at me.

...didn't fucking help I was glaring right at him, with utter disbelief during his testomony.

I thought it was a civil case? There is no need to prove beyond reasonable doubt, it is balance of probabilities.

[C69]

Does anyone here say stuff like " I can get away with grabbing women by the pussies, as I am famous"?

That is next level Jimmy Saville Shite.

If you walk into a courtroom having been recorded saying that, let's be honest you are instantly fucking with the balance of probabilities.

Silencing or paying off and lying about pornstars, saying stuff like "during miss World theywould let me into the women's changing rooms".
And then just the fucking rage of him and his supporters at the women who came forward...the dehumanisation and intimidation.

But having said tyat, and having sat on a Jury, 5 times, each time we took peoples guilt extremely seriously. If there was any doubt, or case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, we always went innocent. We all had a seriously healthy scepticism about the prosecution and police.

I am sure once, after not guilty'ing..one copper wanted to jump into the Jury box and beat me up.
He couldn't stop glaring right at me.

...didn't fucking help I was glaring right at him, with utter disbelief during his testomony.

I thought it was a civil case? There is no need to prove beyond reasonable doubt, it is balance of probabilities.

I suppose you would just say "it wasn't me"

[Masterji]

He once said that he could shoot someone in Time Square and people will still believe that he didn't do it.

[Gumboot]

MakeAmericaConvolutedAgain

Carlson withdrawal syndrome?

Must've been a tough few weeks for ardent Trumpeters. Sad.

[Line6 HXFX]

Does anyone here say stuff like " I can get away with grabbing women by the pussies, as I am famous"?

That is next level Jimmy Saville Shite.

If you walk into a courtroom having been recorded saying that, let's be honest you are instantly fucking with the balance of probabilities.

Silencing or paying off and lying about pornstars, saying stuff like "during miss World theywould let me into the women's changing rooms".
And then just the fucking rage of him and his supporters at the women who came forward...the dehumanisation and intimidation.

But having said tyat, and having sat on a Jury, 5 times, each time we took peoples guilt extremely seriously. If there was any doubt, or case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, we always went innocent. We all had a seriously healthy scepticism about the prosecution and police.

I am sure once, after not guilty'ing..one copper wanted to jump into the Jury box and beat me up.
He couldn't stop glaring right at me.

...didn't fucking help I was glaring right at him, with utter disbelief during his testomony.

I thought it was a civil case? There is no need to prove beyond reasonable doubt, it is balance of probabilities.

What you don't realise is (even though the trump thing was a civil case...and so the fuck what..its still a jury..I was commentating on the behavi9ur of juries..fact it was that.....you learn,.the prosecution and Crown Prosecution just throws any old shit up there, at a jury..with the most spurious, bullshit thin bollocks you have ever seen.
For example..
Kid suspected in course of attempted murder (police had phone call...that kid on probation has lost his mind) of throwing a knife in a Bush as Police approached, whilst he is suspected of going to kill someone..
Police the next day (having arrested the kid for attempted murder..thats right " attempted murder"..they reckon they prevented a murder) dig around in said Bush.and find a knife in the Bush where he is supposed to have chucked it.. that looks like it is 15 years old, covered in moss and mold, been there forever.. and has zero DNA evidence linking it to the kid..it is just some knife they found.
Like you would find in any hedge in the world.
How would you vote?


Zero dna evidence linking knife to teenager....just coppers word for it, having seen the kid chuck something (attempted murder we are talking about) at 2pm at night, when he approached.

We went not guilty.

[Ymx]

Does anyone here say stuff like " I can get away with grabbing women by the pussies, as I am famous"?

That is next level Jimmy Saville Shite.

If you walk into a courtroom having been recorded saying that, let's be honest you are instantly fucking with the balance of probabilities.

Silencing or paying off and lying about pornstars, saying stuff like "during miss World theywould let me into the women's changing rooms".
And then just the fucking rage of him and his supporters at the women who came forward...the dehumanisation and intimidation.

But having said tyat, and having sat on a Jury, 5 times, each time we took peoples guilt extremely seriously. If there was any doubt, or case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt, we always went innocent. We all had a seriously healthy scepticism about the prosecution and police.

I am sure once, after not guilty'ing..one copper wanted to jump into the Jury box and beat me up.
He couldn't stop glaring right at me.

...didn't fucking help I was glaring right at him, with utter disbelief during his testomony.

I thought it was a civil case? There is no need to prove beyond reasonable doubt, it is balance of probabilities.

I suppose you would just say "it wasn't me"

Oh Jesus, I only just got this

[Slick]

Utter farce.
She claimed he raped her; the jury disagreed.
Yet he is found guilty of defaming her and ordered to pay millions ... but the very verdict itself clearly indicates that it is she who has defamed him.

I happened to catch her original claim live on TV 4 or so years ago.
Back then, she couldn't even specify a year or even get within a vague approximate couple of years.
And she claimed she'd immediately told two friends -- seriously, who on here is so bereft of knowledge about women that they believe that through all the subsequent decades of Trump prominence, particularly once he'd started his presidential bid, that neither of those two women passed the Carrol claim onto a single other person either openly as insider gossip or discretely? By the time he was elected, Chinese whispers should have made this common street knowledge throughout the entire country. But there wasn't so much as a hint of it.
And then as Carroll closed her revelation live, she announced that the rape was all detailed in a book she'd just written, ffs!!

Within an hour or two, CNN immediately ushered her onto the Anderson Cooper program where she clearly freaked Cooper out with her lunacy, at one stage creeping him by murmuring what a gorgeous or lovely man he was. She was so obviously a complete loon that on the assembled panel that followed, the black female CNN reporter who along with Jim Acosta always insisted on trying to dominate the Trump press conferences, declared that an actual Carroll rape trial would be un-necessary because Trump 'was guilty (of the 'rape') in the court of public opinion'. i.e the reporter was stating the obvious, which was that Surely Not A Single Person on the planet would be such a fumbduck as to seriously believe Carroll's arrant nonsense.
That reporter clearly didn't follow this forum (if then in existence) or its predecessor.

Maybe it just got lost in all the other claims of sexual assault and hush money? Or are they all bullshit as well?

[C69]

Utter farce.
She claimed he raped her; the jury disagreed.
Yet he is found guilty of defaming her and ordered to pay millions ... but the very verdict itself clearly indicates that it is she who has defamed him.

I happened to catch her original claim live on TV 4 or so years ago.
Back then, she couldn't even specify a year or even get within a vague approximate couple of years.
And she claimed she'd immediately told two friends -- seriously, who on here is so bereft of knowledge about women that they believe that through all the subsequent decades of Trump prominence, particularly once he'd started his presidential bid, that neither of those two women passed the Carrol claim onto a single other person either openly as insider gossip or discretely? By the time he was elected, Chinese whispers should have made this common street knowledge throughout the entire country. But there wasn't so much as a hint of it.
And then as Carroll closed her revelation live, she announced that the rape was all detailed in a book she'd just written, ffs!!

Within an hour or two, CNN immediately ushered her onto the Anderson Cooper program where she clearly freaked Cooper out with her lunacy, at one stage creeping him by murmuring what a gorgeous or lovely man he was. She was so obviously a complete loon that on the assembled panel that followed, the black female CNN reporter who along with Jim Acosta always insisted on trying to dominate the Trump press conferences, declared that an actual Carroll rape trial would be un-necessary because Trump 'was guilty (of the 'rape') in the court of public opinion'. i.e the reporter was stating the obvious, which was that Surely Not A Single Person on the planet would be such a fumbduck as to seriously believe Carroll's arrant nonsense.
That reporter clearly didn't follow this forum (if then in existence) or its predecessor.

Maybe it just got lost in all the other claims of sexual assault and hush money? Or are they all bullshit as well?

Pursuant to the rape charge I believe it was not proved she was penetrated by a penis.
Trump has a very small mush room cock so it must have been fingers or thumbs