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tabascoboy wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 11:55 am There is a claim, and to be sure with nothing to substantiate it, that the drones used today were of Chinese manufacture and launched from within the larger Moscow area by RU Resistance.


One of the drones was shot down a 10-minute drive from Putin's residence, the other fell three kilometers from Novo-Ogarevo [elite].

Deputy Khinshtein claims that one of the drones was shot down over the village of Razdory near Moscow. Journalist F.Rustamova drew attention to the fact that this is a part of Rublyovka, where state dachas, personal homes of officials and businessmen are located. Putin's residence "Novo-Ogaryovo" is a 10-minute drive from the village.

“We Can Explain” writes that another drone crashed in the village of Ilyinskoye, which is even closer to Putin’s residence - just three kilometers away. Nearby is also the village of Znamenskoye, where the estate of Putin's friend Gennady Timchenko, the residence of Mikhail Mishustin and the house of Putin's former son-in-law Kirill Shamalov are located.

Here is what the TG channel "We can explain" writes:

“War has come to Rublevka. At the epicenter of the drone attack were the estates of Putin's elite. Federal TV almost doesn’t report on the attack.

On the air of federal TV channels, almost nothing is reported about the largest drone attack since the beginning of the war on the capital and the nearby area, - the journalists noted. "Russia-24" emphasizes that the buildings were slightly damaged, and all the drones were "suppressed". TV channels didn’t interrupt their broadcasts for special news programs, there is no "Urgent" sign on the air of "Russia-24" - as usually happens during extraordinary events.

Probably, this was a psychological attack, and on places inhabited by Putin's elite. In Moscow, these are prestigious south-western microdistricts. In the suburbs of Moscow there is the Rublev highway and its surroundings, where Putin's close friends live: oligarchs and officials.

📌 One of the drones fell in the village of Ilyinskoe - just 3 kilometers from the residence of President Putin in Novo-Ogarevo.

📌 In the village of Znamenskoye, there is an estate belonging to Putin's friend Gennady Timchenko. Next door is the residence of Prime Minister Mikhail Myshustin "Gorky-9" and the house of the president's ex-son-in-law Kirill Shamalov. The father of the governor of the Moscow region, senator Yury Vorobyev and defense minister Sergei Shoigu live nearby.

📌 Near the village of Zhukovka in kp "Ilyinskoe Pole" stand opposite each other the mansions of Putin's closest friends, the brothers Arkady and Boris Rotenbergov. And next door is the house of Shoigu's lover Elena Shebunova. Sergei Kyryenko's house is in the village of "Landshaft". Igor Sechyn's house in Barvikha. Mikoyan's former dacha is owned by the head of the Russian Guard, Viktor Zolotov.

📌 In Arkhangelskoye the house of the head of the Constitutional Court Valery Zorkin, who the other day brought Putin a map of Europe with Ukraine absent there (later it turned out to be present).

📌 The mistress of the head of VTB — TV presenter Nailya Asker-Zade, the deputy minister of defense Ruslan Tsalikov, the mother-in-law of the head of Rostech Sergey Chemezov — Lyudmila Rukavyshnikova live in Razdory.

📌 The drone was headed to the village of Vlasikha - there is the central command post of the Strategic Missile Forces,” — the journalists wrote.
If there's any justice in this world, then Putin's McMansion needs to be burnt to the ground by a Chinese drone. Without meaning to be too nasty, ideally with him and his cronies inside it.
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inactionman wrote: Tue May 30, 2023 11:59 am

If there's any justice in this world, then Putin's McMansion needs to be burnt to the ground by a Chinese drone. Without meaning to be too nasty, ideally with him and his cronies inside it.
At this point he's so divorced from reality and rationality that he'd probably try to invade Finland for revenge
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Medvedev's been on the sauce again
Top Russian official says British politicians now a legitimate military target
Dmitry Medvedev argues U.K. is ‘de facto leading an undeclared war against Russia.’

LONDON — British politicians are now a legitimate military target for Moscow, a senior Russian official said, after the U.K.’s Foreign Secretary James Cleverly argued Ukraine has the right to use force within Russian borders.

Speaking in Estonia Tuesday, Cleverly said Ukraine “has a right” to project force “beyond its own borders” as part of its self-defense, following a series of drone strikes that hit Moscow’s wealthiest neighborhoods. The U.K. minister argued that Kyiv striking inside Russia would “undermine” the Kremlin’s ability to continue its war in Ukraine, which has officially denied responsibility for the attack.

Dmitry Medvedev, former Russian president and deputy chair of the Russian Security Council, hit back on Wednesday arguing that the U.K. is “de facto leading an undeclared war against Russia” by supplying Ukraine with military aid and specialists.

“That being the case, any of its public officials (either military, or civil, who facilitate the war) can be considered as a legitimate military target,” he wrote on Twitter.

Medvedev, who regularly makes blunt remarks about the war in Ukraine and has called for the killing of Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskyy, warned: “The goofy officials of the U.K., our eternal enemy, should remember that within the framework of the universally accepted international law which regulates modern warfare, including the Hague and Geneva Conventions with their additional protocols, their state can also be qualified as being at war.”

Cleverly’s remarks meanwhile appear to be at odds with the U.S.’ position. White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said at a briefing Tuesday that the U.S. was still gathering information on the reports of drones striking in Moscow.

“We do not support attacks inside of Russia. That’s it. Period,” she said.

https://www.politico.eu/article/russian ... ry-target/
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One small drone attack and suddenly the natives are getting restless. Whoever chose the target to be the wealthier enclaves in/around Moscow knew what they were doing



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This is......something.

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UA's intelligence Directorate is in a submarine in the Dnipro apparently

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This is all lovely PsyOps by whoever is directing these drones.

I mean it's only a "Special Operation", & yet there all the Orc mouthpieces on TV are, horrified about this attack on the motherland; but what are they attacking ? ... the 0.001% of the population that send off the children of the rest of the population to die, for what ??? .... to keep those fuckers in clover.

If this war has done nothing else for the Mobiks, it's shown them their true place in society, & if they just want to continue to eat shit & die when required, that'll be what happens to them, & their children, & their children's children ....
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fishfoodie wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 8:20 pm This is all lovely PsyOps by whoever is directing these drones.

I mean it's only a "Special Operation", & yet there all the Orc mouthpieces on TV are, horrified about this attack on the motherland; but what are they attacking ? ... the 0.001% of the population that send off the children of the rest of the population to die, for what ??? .... to keep those fuckers in clover.

If this war has done nothing else for the Mobiks, it's shown them their true place in society, & if they just want to continue to eat shit & die when required, that'll be what happens to them, & their children, & their children's children ....
No different to the last 700 years so.
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Hellraiser wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 8:41 pm
fishfoodie wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 8:20 pm This is all lovely PsyOps by whoever is directing these drones.

I mean it's only a "Special Operation", & yet there all the Orc mouthpieces on TV are, horrified about this attack on the motherland; but what are they attacking ? ... the 0.001% of the population that send off the children of the rest of the population to die, for what ??? .... to keep those fuckers in clover.

If this war has done nothing else for the Mobiks, it's shown them their true place in society, & if they just want to continue to eat shit & die when required, that'll be what happens to them, & their children, & their children's children ....
No different to the last 700 years so.
For the Non-Russian ethnic groups I'd totally agree, but the ethnic Russians have always liked to pretend that they were above the rest, & let the others be cannon fodder, while they stayed in the rear. This time around a lot of the Republics are gone, so the Russian untermenschen get to do their own fighting & dying this time out; or at least they're doing their fair share this time !

While the caste system was Russian V Non-Russian the divisions within Russian society weren't starkly highlighted; this time around they're completely illuminated, because the children of the "haves", have all fucked off to Scandinavia, or Georgia, or where ever, & meanwhile the underclass that don't even possess a passport to get the fuck out of Dodge are getting press ganged into serving.
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Reports of a couple of Orc divisions (2,500- 5,000) cut off and surrounded in Lyman.
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Germany has announced that it has started delivering Leopard 1 ammunition to Ukraine and will be sending 66 BV206S and 64 APCs (which I presume will be TPz Fuchs).
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dkm57 wrote: Wed May 31, 2023 9:30 pm Reports of a couple of Orc divisions (2,500- 5,000) cut off and surrounded in Lyman.
Is it September 2022 again? Lyman is 13km behind the front line at the shortest point.
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Ah bollox just ignore me :oops:
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Enzedder wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 6:42 am

On your marks....
Well, wrt talk of the offensive starting in summer, Ukraine uses the meteorological definition of summer starting June 1st - so any time from now...

If they can work their way into hitting this again... ( though photo looks a little sus tbh )

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On less savoury note but just to keep things real regards the issues still within Ukraine, Budanov supplied a letter to allow one of Zelensky's party MPs to do a runner before being done for corruption.

https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2023/05/31/7404673/
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A repost from the other place.
Link to a great interview between Boris Akunin (famous russian/georgian writer now living in western europe) and Yuri Dud (russian journalist and one of the biggest Youtubers in Russia, declared a foreign agent in Russia in late 2022 after criticizing the invasion of Ukraine and now in exile in Turkey):



Fascinating discussion from a russian perspective on the mindset of Putin, on russian imperial history, and contemplation on where Russia is headed politically. Recorded in March 2022 but still highly relevant. Rewind to the start. Interview recorded in russian with english subtitles but well worth the watch.
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More factional disagreements

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The US is buying an unspecified number of ex-Dutch army Gepards from Jordan as part of a $118m deal.
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:roll: is it alcohol induced, or just "normal" behaviour for these douchebags?


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Extraordinarily, responding to two video messages posted today by Chechen leaders in which they accused Prigozhin of various sins is no other than Dmitry "Wagner" Utkin, founder and commander of the PMC, who previously extremely rarely appeared in public.

The message, a text note for now, was posted on the large GREY ZONE Telegram channel, which became known since the start of the full-scale invasion for posts criticising negative elements of the Russian army, but the channel admin's identity remained anonymous.

A photo is attached to the post, apparently showing Utkin exiting a helicopter at an unknown landing area, signed with "GREY ZONE" "Wagner".

The note itself lists responses to a number of claims and accusations made by the Chechens loyal to Putin. Utkin reminded his counterparts of knowing each other since the times of the 1st and 2nd Chechen wars and his readiness to “talk”. The mention of two wars in this case is hardly too accidental since during the first war the men were on opposite sides of the front.

But the appearance of Utkin on stage is likely to continue as it serves the purpose of supporting Prigozhin and carving out more influence in the internal conflict between rapidly emerging factions within the Russian public space.
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I reckon Utkin has been running things in Syria and/or Africa, and that is the reason there's been no sign of him in Ukraine to date.
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Belarusian AFU units have started recruiting among exiles in the rest of Europe to create reserve formations. Seems to be an increasing amount of certainty that Belarus is going to come into play at some stage. Lukashenka's poor health is accelerating things.
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Quite a lot of incidents today with explosions in various parts of the RU occupied areas, anti-Putinists active again in Bilhorod and even some South Africans protesting in Cape Town at Lavrov's visit for the BRICS meeting.

There was also a claim yesterday on Twitter that the President of Moldova had given permission for UA forces to take cross-border action in Transnistria should the need arise but can't find a reliable corroboration of this at all despite searching, sounds like a small statement about co-operation was blown up out of context...

plus claims of a drone attack in Kursk area as well as Smolensk, Russia
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tabascoboy wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 10:13 am There was also a claim yesterday on Twitter that the President of Moldova had given permission for UA forces to take cross-border action in Transnistria should the need arise but can't find a reliable corroboration of this at all despite searching, sounds like a small statement about co-operation was blown up out of context...
Won't happen of course, Sandu's position too weak. Zelensky literally said that it's not part of Ukraine and they can't t do anything unless there is a direct request from Moldova.

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Hellraiser wrote: Thu Jun 01, 2023 7:54 pm
Do we think we are any closer to some of these republics and countries under the Russian foot rebelling? They won't get a better chance.
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How many times have we seen these now? Need more mutinies...


Mobilized from Khanty-Mansi Autonomous Okrug, russia, recorded a video message about the situation in the 1307th regiment, where, after the change of commander, the military began to be treated like “cannon fodder”. Here's what they say:

📍The service is being held for the eighth month, we have been on the territory of the “special military operation’’ for the fourth month. In early May, a local, who hails from Ukraine, was appointed commander of the battalion. Previously, he commanded near Kreminna, then they lost a whole regiment there.

📍The new commander canceled the rotation. We stopped washing, shopping for groceries. All the cars are broken and we are not allowed to fix them. We repeatedly asked for food and water on the radio — the regiment commander said: "Not small, they will suck d*ck."

📍They put sticks in the wheels. In addition to the machine gun and bulletproof vest, we are not provided with anything. Not a single humanitarian aid has reached us, it is sold by the command. During all this time they gave four cans of condensed milk.

📍 “We were removed from our positions and sent forward to dig in the forest field. Allegedly, the next day you will be replaced by one of the contractors. As a result, we came under mortar fire and enemy attack. We spent 16 hours lying in a ditch while the tank and artillery worked on us.

📍 “After that, we were deceived into positions. The commander brought people to the point of no communication, and said: “You are coming under the control of a PMC,” after which he left. Once a platoon commander was hit by a shell and tore off his leg. The battalion commander ran away without providing any help.

📍There was no evacuation. For several days we couldn’t pull the wounded from the battlefield.

📍 “When we started complaining about the lack of thermal imagers and walkie-talkies, threats began to come in. “If you continue, the division commander will come and shoot the complainers. If that doesn’t work, he will deploy batteries and simply smash [the positions of the mobilized].”

“We are being thrown to the slaughter. We have been given to understand that we are cannon fodder, and with our lives the task will be accomplished. We do not refuse to carry out the task, but without the support of the command, we cannot do this.”
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Sounds so very Russian to put a Ukrainian in charge of one of their battalions :lol:
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Raggs wrote: Fri Jun 02, 2023 1:59 pm Sounds so very Russian to put a Ukrainian in charge of one of their battalions :lol:
Clearly the wrong type of pro-Russian Ukrainian!

Hope someone warns the RU oligarchs still in "Londongrad" about this...

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