Farrell and his holiday options

[dkm57]

Yes, I know pigs might fly and unicorns shi#t gold buttons.

Could make a pretty decent video nasty from Farrell's career though, maybe someone should. Frustrating thing is he's a very good player, he doesn't need to do that kind of stuff.

[JM2K6]

This was the worst one he did IMO

[ASMO]

This was the worst one he did IMO

Both nasty, but Hogg's was not nearly as bad as Farrell, it was a glancing blow, plus it was Dan Biggar who is a whiny cunt, Farrell was a full on smash.

[JM2K6]

A glancing blow

It's supposed to be amusing whataboutery purely to mock the idea of Farrell being taken to court over a swinging arm tackle, but let's not pretend that Hogg didn't full on twat him in the jaw there

[PornDog]

TBF I wouldn't be that surprised to see a particularly bad incident (a Calum Clarke or some such) result in a civil or even criminal case.

That is of course separate to the complete blinder dkm is playing here though

[JM2K6]

Ben Kay did just make the point that Lavanini's ban for the headshot red card on Farrell in the world cup was... 4 matches. For a repeat offender with a checkered history. Entry point was lower, as you'd expect comparing the two.

If people want to join me in demanding longer bans for headshots, welcome aboard the bandwagon :)

[sockwithaticket]

TBF I wouldn't be that surprised to see a particularly bad incident (a Calum Clarke or some such) result in a civil or even criminal case.

That is of course separate to the complete blinder dkm is playing here though

Wasn't Rougerie suing someone?

[dkm57]

Not saying the Hogg incident wasn't complete C#ntery but he at least has learned and I don't think he's done it since.

[Line6 HXFX]

We really shouldn't allow the English to play for the Lions. They are a complete liability.
They are either losing their minds and getting redcarded, grabbing peoples dicks or just so fucking petulant and wound up, you will all be burning your lions jersey and supporting the opposition long before the ref starts the match.

I know people talk about the Lions ethos, and it is all wank, but fucking'ell, a bunch of crazed English nationalists, who would make the worst soccer thugs look a great laugh and a right night out, is not what we want to subject our kids to.
I would rather lose the series 3-0 than have Gatland have to surround himself with these English idiots.

[SaintK]

TBF I wouldn't be that surprised to see a particularly bad incident (a Calum Clarke or some such) result in a civil or even criminal case.

That is of course separate to the complete blinder dkm is playing here though

Wasn't Rougerie suing someone?

Phil Greening when he was at Wasps
Not sure anything came of it

[SaintK]

We really shouldn't allow the English to play for the Lions. They are a complete liability.
They are either losing their minds and getting redcarded, grabbing peoples dicks or just so fucking petulant and wound up, you will all be burning your lions jersey and supporting the opposition long before the ref starts the match.

I know people talk about the Lions ethos, and it is all wank, but fucking'ell, a bunch of crazed English nationalists, who would make the worst soccer thugs look a great laugh and a right night out, is not what we want to subject our kids to.
I would rather lose the series 3-0 than have Gatland have to surround himself with these English idiots.

Good luck persuading Gatland with that
I'd like it as well. Give the lads a nice long rest.
What are the current odds on the Lions tour even taking place

[Kawazaki]

We really shouldn't allow the English to play for the Lions. They are a complete liability.
They are either losing their minds and getting redcarded, grabbing peoples dicks or just so fucking petulant and wound up, you will all be burning your lions jersey and supporting the opposition long before the ref starts the match.

I know people talk about the Lions ethos, and it is all wank, but fucking'ell, a bunch of crazed English nationalists, who would make the worst soccer thugs look a great laugh and a right night out, is not what we want to subject our kids to.
I would rather lose the series 3-0 than have Gatland have to surround himself with these English idiots.

Well aren't you the big wanker.

[JM2K6]

Liam Williams is a good example of the rare back with multiple red cards and bans.

That's Lions star Liam Williams, of course.

[Un Pilier]

Liam Williams is a good example of the rare back with multiple red cards and bans.

That's Lions star Liam Williams, of course.

Not sure he’s quite as bad a cheap shot merchant as he used to be though.

[Lemoentjie]

5 games lol, thinks about this for a change, what if Owen was ..... black? ... whole year i bet.

Brexit Britain

[Uncle fester]

Ben Kay did just make the point that Lavanini's ban for the headshot red card on Farrell in the world cup was... 4 matches. For a repeat offender with a checkered history. Entry point was lower, as you'd expect comparing the two.

If people want to join me in demanding longer bans for headshots, welcome aboard the bandwagon :)

Lavanini deserved a fücking medal for that.

[JM2K6]

Liam Williams is a good example of the rare back with multiple red cards and bans.

That's Lions star Liam Williams, of course.

Not sure he’s quite as bad a cheap shot merchant as he used to be though.

Absolutely true. But if REFRY had his way, we'd have been denied that magical counter-attacking try against the Kiwis...

[laurent]

TBF I wouldn't be that surprised to see a particularly bad incident (a Calum Clarke or some such) result in a civil or even criminal case.

That is of course separate to the complete blinder dkm is playing here though

Wasn't Rougerie suing someone?

Phil Greening when he was at Wasps
Not sure anything came of it

I think greening was avoiding trips to France for a while.
I believe I the end wasps paid some of the loss of income bill.
Rougerie had a larynx fracture which is not a nice injury.

[Jimmy Smallsteps]

Wasn't Rougerie suing someone?

Phil Greening when he was at Wasps
Not sure anything came of it

I think greening was avoiding trips to France for a while.
I believe I the end wasps paid some of the loss of income bill.
Rougerie had a larynx fracture which is not a nice injury.

Oh dear, poor old Gougerie. My heart, and no doubt my eye, bleeds.

[eldanielfire]

Outrage by proxy reins hither and thither, with hyperbolic assumption ruling fact.

I thought reins are things you use to steer a horse.

Anyway, 5 games is ridiculous - reckon it should've been at least 6 months.

5 games is a joke; & continues to show the bias towards, Tier-1 Nations.

If this was a Fijian, or Georgian, they'd be looking at 75% of the full tariff, regardless of how much contrition they showed.

This was easily a 10-12 game ban worthy offense; & given his previous, he deserved zero off that.

Wot?

[eldanielfire]

y...yes? that's been the standard for some time: a single offence a long time ago has rarely stopped players from getting a big reduction.

It's stupid but the problem here is refs and citing commissions bottling it time and again up til now, giving him this 'clean' record.

This!

[Jb1981]

Have reductions for good records etc increased in the last couple of years? Looking up SBW’s Lions suspension after seeing the photo above the judicial write ups are very similar - both reckless, not intentional and prior good record etc noted.

SBW’s was deemed a mid-point offence and he received a six week suspension knocked down by a third to four weeks. Farrell’s was deemed high point and his ten week suspension was halved to five.

[Raggs]

Have reductions for good records etc increased in the last couple of years? Looking up SBW’s Lions suspension after seeing the photo above the judicial write ups are very similar - both reckless, not intentional and prior good record etc noted.

SBW’s was deemed a mid-point offence and he received a six week suspension knocked down by a third to four weeks. Farrell’s was deemed high point and his ten week suspension was halved to five.

50% is the max reduction, and it's done in weeks (games basically, back when it was one a week). A guilty plea gets you a long way to 50% off, a reasonably good record is often enough to take it the rest of the way.

What did SBW plead?

[Ymx]

I thought reins are things you use to steer a horse.

Anyway, 5 games is ridiculous - reckon it should've been at least 6 months.

5 games is a joke; & continues to show the bias towards, Tier-1 Nations.

If this was a Fijian, or Georgian, they'd be looking at 75% of the full tariff, regardless of how much contrition they showed.

This was easily a 10-12 game ban worthy offense; & given his previous, he deserved zero off that.

Wot?

Until this, I never realised how low Anthony Watson actually was. Still a shoulder mind.

[ASMO]

5 games is a joke; & continues to show the bias towards, Tier-1 Nations.

If this was a Fijian, or Georgian, they'd be looking at 75% of the full tariff, regardless of how much contrition they showed.

This was easily a 10-12 game ban worthy offense; & given his previous, he deserved zero off that.

Wot?

Until this, I never realised how low Anthony Watson actually was. Still a shoulder mind.

and still absolutely a red card.