Stop voting for fucking Tories

[tabascoboy]

[fishfoodie]

Mad Nad is also now unresigning; & is going all QAnon Miss Marple, demanding all the information the Government used for the decision on her refused Honour, despite experts saying she isn't entitled to see the most important bits.

Former cabinet minister Nadine Dorries has said she will not resign until she gets more information on why she was denied a peerage.

The Boris Johnson ally announced last Friday she would be standing down as MP for Mid Bedfordshire "with immediate effect".

Ms Dorries accused Rishi Sunak's team of removing her name from Mr Johnson's resignation honours list.

In a tweet, she said she had requested all correspondence around her removal.

Ms Dorries said she had put in Subject Access Requests to the House of Lords Appointments Commission (HOLAC), Cabinet Secretary and the Cabinet Office.

Subject Access Requests allow an individual to receive a copy of all their personal data held by a government department.

Freedom of Information expert Martin Rosenbaum has pointed out that under the Data Protection Act 2018, the right of access to personal data does not apply to data processed for the honours system.

In a multi-tweet thread Ms Dorries said she had requested copies of WhatsApp messages, texts, emails and meeting minutes. relating to the process of her nomination for the House of Lords

Once she receives them she will "take the time to properly consider the information I am provided", Ms Dorries added.

She went on to say it is "absolutely my intention to resign" but "this process is now sadly necessary".

She added that her "office continues to function as normal and I will of course continue to serve my constituents".

Before Ms Dorries' announcement, No 10 said it was important for her constituents to have "certainty".

"It is obviously unusual to have an MP say they will resign with immediate effect and for that not to take place," the prime minister's press secretary added.

[tabascoboy]

Two members wanted Johnson expelled from House of Commons
The report has also revealed that two MPs on the committee wanted Johnson expelled from the House - a far more serious sanction which would have forced an immediate by-election.

During a meeting this Tuesday discussing the draft report, SNP MP Allan Dorans proposed an amendment to leave out the recommendation he be "suspended from the service of the House for 90 days" and insert "expelled from the House".

Mr Dorans and Labour's Yvonne Fovargue voted for the amendment, with four Conservative MPs - Andy Carter, Alberto Costa, Sir Bernard Jenkin, and Sir Charles Walker - voting against.

Johnson's contempt has no precedent, report says
The committee says the contempt committed by Johnson was made more serious because he was prime minister.

It says that there is no precedent for a prime minister to have deliberately misled the House of Commons.

"He misled the House on an issue of the greatest importance to the House and to the public, and did so repeatedly," the report says.

[Tichtheid]

When the papers, online or print copies, show pictures of Johnson jogging, surely everyone knows that he's stepped out of a car just around the corner?

[I like neeps]

When the papers, online or print copies, show pictures of Johnson jogging, surely everyone knows that he's stepped out of a car just around the corner?

Very few papers have interest in honest reporting these days.

[KingBlairhorn]

When the papers, online or print copies, show pictures of Johnson jogging, surely everyone knows that he's stepped out of a car just around the corner?

There are loads of videos of him doing exactly this in full view of the press pack so you have to ask who is worse. Johnson for doing it or the press for allowing the mistruth to be propagated. It is in microcosm everything that is wrong with the relationship between our politicians and our press.

[Tichtheid]

When the papers, online or print copies, show pictures of Johnson jogging, surely everyone knows that he's stepped out of a car just around the corner?

There are loads of videos of him doing exactly this in full view of the press pack so you have to ask who is worse. Johnson for doing it or the press for allowing the mistruth to be propagated. It is in microcosm everything that is wrong with the relationship between our politicians and our press.

Agreed, and with neeps too, the metaphor was exactly my point

We are not at a healthy place regarding democracy and the fourth estate, if that's not too alarmist.

[tabascoboy]

Naturally the Pro Johnson morons claiming this report is all lies and just a stitch up. Either real cretins or trolls/bots...

[sockwithaticket]

That has just reminded me of something from a long time ago, Ben Elton on tv, he had a long array of pictures of people and asked if we the audience recognised any of them.

There were a couple I knew but not that many. They were the cabinet members of the time - Major was Chancellor under Thatcher, just to give a time stamp

It's like that now, a bunch of nonentities who have been scraped from under the bottom of the barrel, I think of myself as a political nerd but I don't who half of these people are.

Yeah, I know what you mean. I probably know one or two more than most people, because I work in an arms length govt body, but fuck me the paucity of any kind of talent is unbelievable.

I guess it also comes down to a lack of any long term planning by any government. How are they meant to make a difference or get on top of their portfolio if they are only there for a few months or a couple of years.

Securing allies in cabinet posts and fighting the party civil war is more important than governance, don't you know?

It makes the palpable disdain many of the Tories have for civil servants all the stupider. If allowed to be, they're the subject matter experts who bridge the gap of the minister's lack of experience or knowledge in the particular area they've been assigned. It does help if they're not constantly asked whether mental or downright illegal ideas are possible, because then all they end up doing is saying "no, minister".

[sockwithaticket]

When the papers, online or print copies, show pictures of Johnson jogging, surely everyone knows that he's stepped out of a car just around the corner?

There are loads of videos of him doing exactly this in full view of the press pack so you have to ask who is worse. Johnson for doing it or the press for allowing the mistruth to be propagated. It is in microcosm everything that is wrong with the relationship between our politicians and our press.

Not sure what you do about it when most of the press is owned by wealthy donors who (at best) lean right.

[dpedin]

Boris letter to the Committee has just dropped!

[Tichtheid]

[Slick]

Mad Nad is also now unresigning; & is going all QAnon Miss Marple, demanding all the information the Government used for the decision on her refused Honour, despite experts saying she isn't entitled to see the most important bits.

Former cabinet minister Nadine Dorries has said she will not resign until she gets more information on why she was denied a peerage.

The Boris Johnson ally announced last Friday she would be standing down as MP for Mid Bedfordshire "with immediate effect".

Ms Dorries accused Rishi Sunak's team of removing her name from Mr Johnson's resignation honours list.

In a tweet, she said she had requested all correspondence around her removal.

Ms Dorries said she had put in Subject Access Requests to the House of Lords Appointments Commission (HOLAC), Cabinet Secretary and the Cabinet Office.

Subject Access Requests allow an individual to receive a copy of all their personal data held by a government department.

Freedom of Information expert Martin Rosenbaum has pointed out that under the Data Protection Act 2018, the right of access to personal data does not apply to data processed for the honours system.

In a multi-tweet thread Ms Dorries said she had requested copies of WhatsApp messages, texts, emails and meeting minutes. relating to the process of her nomination for the House of Lords

Once she receives them she will "take the time to properly consider the information I am provided", Ms Dorries added.

She went on to say it is "absolutely my intention to resign" but "this process is now sadly necessary".

She added that her "office continues to function as normal and I will of course continue to serve my constituents".

Before Ms Dorries' announcement, No 10 said it was important for her constituents to have "certainty".

"It is obviously unusual to have an MP say they will resign with immediate effect and for that not to take place," the prime minister's press secretary added.

I'm finding it difficult to get my head around this. What is in her head that makes her think she is owed a peerage? The whole thing is just awful.

[Rhubarb & Custard]

Mad Nad is also now unresigning; & is going all QAnon Miss Marple, demanding all the information the Government used for the decision on her refused Honour, despite experts saying she isn't entitled to see the most important bits.

Former cabinet minister Nadine Dorries has said she will not resign until she gets more information on why she was denied a peerage.

The Boris Johnson ally announced last Friday she would be standing down as MP for Mid Bedfordshire "with immediate effect".

Ms Dorries accused Rishi Sunak's team of removing her name from Mr Johnson's resignation honours list.

In a tweet, she said she had requested all correspondence around her removal.

Ms Dorries said she had put in Subject Access Requests to the House of Lords Appointments Commission (HOLAC), Cabinet Secretary and the Cabinet Office.

I thought HOLAC thought Mad Nad's ascension was a non starter because it was to be approved 18 months in advance, i.e. she'd was seeking approval now but would only stand down at the next election. And thus HOLAC considered as they didn't know if she'd do anything that could exclude her in the next 18 months there was no point even looking into it now

Is it actually more complex than that

[S/Lt_Phillips]

Mad Nad is also now unresigning; & is going all QAnon Miss Marple, demanding all the information the Government used for the decision on her refused Honour, despite experts saying she isn't entitled to see the most important bits.

Former cabinet minister Nadine Dorries has said she will not resign until she gets more information on why she was denied a peerage.

The Boris Johnson ally announced last Friday she would be standing down as MP for Mid Bedfordshire "with immediate effect".

Ms Dorries accused Rishi Sunak's team of removing her name from Mr Johnson's resignation honours list.

In a tweet, she said she had requested all correspondence around her removal.

Ms Dorries said she had put in Subject Access Requests to the House of Lords Appointments Commission (HOLAC), Cabinet Secretary and the Cabinet Office.

Subject Access Requests allow an individual to receive a copy of all their personal data held by a government department.

Freedom of Information expert Martin Rosenbaum has pointed out that under the Data Protection Act 2018, the right of access to personal data does not apply to data processed for the honours system.

In a multi-tweet thread Ms Dorries said she had requested copies of WhatsApp messages, texts, emails and meeting minutes. relating to the process of her nomination for the House of Lords

Once she receives them she will "take the time to properly consider the information I am provided", Ms Dorries added.

She went on to say it is "absolutely my intention to resign" but "this process is now sadly necessary".

She added that her "office continues to function as normal and I will of course continue to serve my constituents".

Before Ms Dorries' announcement, No 10 said it was important for her constituents to have "certainty".

"It is obviously unusual to have an MP say they will resign with immediate effect and for that not to take place," the prime minister's press secretary added.

I'm finding it difficult to get my head around this. What is in her head that makes her think she is owed a peerage? The whole thing is just awful.

This. She seems to think that because she was born into poverty and currently has a job, that somehow automatically qualifies her for a life peerage. The misguided sense of entitlement is appalling, and frankly she comes across as a sulking toddler.

[sockwithaticket]

Mad Nad is also now unresigning; & is going all QAnon Miss Marple, demanding all the information the Government used for the decision on her refused Honour, despite experts saying she isn't entitled to see the most important bits.

Former cabinet minister Nadine Dorries has said she will not resign until she gets more information on why she was denied a peerage.

The Boris Johnson ally announced last Friday she would be standing down as MP for Mid Bedfordshire "with immediate effect".

Ms Dorries accused Rishi Sunak's team of removing her name from Mr Johnson's resignation honours list.

In a tweet, she said she had requested all correspondence around her removal.

Ms Dorries said she had put in Subject Access Requests to the House of Lords Appointments Commission (HOLAC), Cabinet Secretary and the Cabinet Office.

Subject Access Requests allow an individual to receive a copy of all their personal data held by a government department.

Freedom of Information expert Martin Rosenbaum has pointed out that under the Data Protection Act 2018, the right of access to personal data does not apply to data processed for the honours system.

In a multi-tweet thread Ms Dorries said she had requested copies of WhatsApp messages, texts, emails and meeting minutes. relating to the process of her nomination for the House of Lords

Once she receives them she will "take the time to properly consider the information I am provided", Ms Dorries added.

She went on to say it is "absolutely my intention to resign" but "this process is now sadly necessary".

She added that her "office continues to function as normal and I will of course continue to serve my constituents".

Before Ms Dorries' announcement, No 10 said it was important for her constituents to have "certainty".

"It is obviously unusual to have an MP say they will resign with immediate effect and for that not to take place," the prime minister's press secretary added.

I'm finding it difficult to get my head around this. What is in her head that makes her think she is owed a peerage? The whole thing is just awful.

Other than general Tory entitlement, there are persistent rumours about the services she rendered for Johnson...

[fishfoodie]

I think that contempt of parliament.(lying in parliament) should really result in a prison sentence. The toughest sanction is 90 days expulsion from the House, that is tame.

Read the list of offences again !

The 2nd one is: "Deliberately misleading the Committee"

His testimony & statements were delivered while under oath, so that's perjury !

The Committee have unanimously accused him of a criminal act, & it should be reported to the Police.

[C69]

Pmsl its fecking hilarious the blue on ire is

[tabascoboy]

Well I never!

[dpedin]

Well I never!

Who would have thunk it! Knock me down with a feather!

[yermum]

[And 1 guest]

Wasn't he born in New York? They seem to like narcissistic fat liars over there. All hail president Boris

[GogLais]

Mad Nad is also now unresigning; & is going all QAnon Miss Marple, demanding all the information the Government used for the decision on her refused Honour, despite experts saying she isn't entitled to see the most important bits.

Former cabinet minister Nadine Dorries has said she will not resign until she gets more information on why she was denied a peerage.

The Boris Johnson ally announced last Friday she would be standing down as MP for Mid Bedfordshire "with immediate effect".

Ms Dorries accused Rishi Sunak's team of removing her name from Mr Johnson's resignation honours list.

In a tweet, she said she had requested all correspondence around her removal.

Ms Dorries said she had put in Subject Access Requests to the House of Lords Appointments Commission (HOLAC), Cabinet Secretary and the Cabinet Office.

Subject Access Requests allow an individual to receive a copy of all their personal data held by a government department.

Freedom of Information expert Martin Rosenbaum has pointed out that under the Data Protection Act 2018, the right of access to personal data does not apply to data processed for the honours system.

In a multi-tweet thread Ms Dorries said she had requested copies of WhatsApp messages, texts, emails and meeting minutes. relating to the process of her nomination for the House of Lords

Once she receives them she will "take the time to properly consider the information I am provided", Ms Dorries added.

She went on to say it is "absolutely my intention to resign" but "this process is now sadly necessary".

She added that her "office continues to function as normal and I will of course continue to serve my constituents".

Before Ms Dorries' announcement, No 10 said it was important for her constituents to have "certainty".

"It is obviously unusual to have an MP say they will resign with immediate effect and for that not to take place," the prime minister's press secretary added.

I'm finding it difficult to get my head around this. What is in her head that makes her think she is owed a peerage? The whole thing is just awful.

I’m afraid the thought crossed my mind that it would be her only chance to be a lady. But that would be mysoginistic and tasteless, so I didn’t.

[Big D]

Confirmed lying tosser confirmed again as being a lying tosser. The quicker he fucks off from the public eye the better.

[fishfoodie]

Confirmed lying tosser confirmed again as being a lying tosser. The quicker he fucks off from the public eye the better.

Yeah but if they don't finish him now, & forever show him to be the lying, self-serving, cunt that we know he is; the turd will bob to the surface again at some point in the future, when the goldfish memoried voters let themselves be gaslit by the press, who are still pushing his narrative.

[Biffer]

Mad Nad is also now unresigning; & is going all QAnon Miss Marple, demanding all the information the Government used for the decision on her refused Honour, despite experts saying she isn't entitled to see the most important bits.

I'm finding it difficult to get my head around this. What is in her head that makes her think she is owed a peerage? The whole thing is just awful.

I’m afraid the thought crossed my mind that it would be her only chance to be a lady. But that would be mysoginistic and tasteless, so I didn’t.

She was. Cabinet minister for less than a year ffs. She can fuck off.

[Camroc2]

The Blob!, the Blob!

Plan for cruise ship to house asylum seekers near Liverpool scrapped
A government source tells Sky News the plan for a giant ship to house hundreds of men seeking asylum has been scrapped after being declined by the port.

A government source has told Sky News the vessel was due to house 500 men seeking asylum in Birkenhead, but that will no longer happen following objections from Peel Ports.

The ship would have been a new, seventh site acquired by the Home Office under controversial plans to start transferring migrants away from hotels in a bid to crack down on illegal immigration.

Peel Ports Group, operator of The Port of Liverpool, said whilst they could provide the berth, "it was dependent on the necessary support from the local agencies".

They told the PA news agency: "Last week, we simply observed that we could not see any conceivable scenario where the local agencies are going to be able to provide the necessary support to make this solution work.

"Peel Ports remains committed to fulfilling its full statutory obligations to provide access to any vessel, provided it can do so safely and securely, and it has the available infrastructure."

Stick them in Birkenhead Docklands and they’ll be on the small boats to Ireland soon enough. Job done.

Shipwrecked somewhere off Llandudno I reckon,... Oh fuck, they're not going to stay there are they ?

[C69]

The Blob!, the Blob!

Stick them in Birkenhead Docklands and they’ll be on the small boats to Ireland soon enough. Job done.

Shipwrecked somewhere off Llandudno I reckon,... Oh fuck, they're not going to stay there are they ?

Why the actual fuck would you want this English twat to have anything to do with Wales FFS?

[_Os_]

Not sure why Labour are playing the we'll be tougher on illegal immigration than Tories line. They'll never be more hateful (although they might try). And what do they think will happen? Illegal immigration to the UK is small part of people escaping conflict and climate breakdown across ME and Africa coming into Europe. Neither of the parties will "fix it". The press who have turned up Patel, will turn on Braverman will absolutely savage whoever Labour's Home Sec is too.

I don't think pointing out Tory failure by their own criteria and 'process claims quicker and send back people who don't have a genuine claim to be here' = an avowed intent to be tougher on illegal migrants than the Tories.

As attack lines that don't actually propose your own policy go, it wasn't a bad one.

On another tack, a non-insignificant portion of Labour's traditional support base do have what could generously be termed as concerns about immigration. That can't be ignored if power is sought, it's the sort of emotive issue which has turned votes.

Neeps is correct.

As soon as Labour are in power much of the print media (which is strongly Tory) will start attacking Labour on immigration. They've only stopped moaning as much because it's reached all time highs under the Tories, and the change in composition (more non-EU) is entirely about Brexit, the same Tories and Brexit they support. As soon as Labour are in power, it's going to be like a greatest hits of blaming Labour for immigration and a tabloid frontpage obsession. The fact that mass migration into the UK started before Labour won in 1997 and increased after they lost in 2010, will not matter. It's a discussion that happens in a Tory alternate reality, they don't care about immigration it's just a means of getting every bigot/racist to support them. Labour can never win on this, because the discussion is about Labour losing.

I was wrong. It has already started whilst the Tories are still in power. A potential future Labour government is being blamed for the results of Tory governance, whilst the Tories are still governing. And so almost unnoticed everything that was once blamed on a past Labour government is blamed on a future Labour government yet to be.

Back in reality, the UK switched from a net emigration country to a net immigration country under Thatcher in the 1980s. Something completely new in the UK's history that's never commented on, all that's happened since is further travel along that road. Nor is there ever any comment on Thatcher being a follower of Milton Friedman whose favourite economy was Hong Kong, the same HK beloved by Brexiters, the same HK that was sustained by massive inflows of cheap migrant labour from China during Friedman's time.

"There's no such thing as society" but also "Labour in the past and future is to blame for immigration which is changing society". Morons.

[Line6 HXFX]

Nothing is going to change. Eton is still mass producing Camerons, Boris', Jacob Rees Moggs. People who have zero idea about the outside world and drive past our ghastly little houses with a mixture of contempt and bemusement.

My solution, make Welsh the official language of the UK. No one can have unearned intelligence, sound superior, knowledgeable and sophisticated speaking Welsh.
There are no Welsh speaking sophisti'cunts.
When Welsh speakers speak English they sound dim as fuck.
Let's reverse that and make English speakers speak Welsh.
52% ofvthe country wouldn't be conned by right wing shysters like Farage if he had to speak Welsh.

[Line6 HXFX]

How many lies were told in parliament in the run up to Brexit btw?

Why did that all get a free pass?

[Line6 HXFX]

Its just annoying as fuck that Conservatism cannot even survive the first 20 pages of this book, if only people just read it.

Every trick, every logical fallacy they use is right here.

They are so fucking lazy, entitled and arrogant, tories and right wingers don't even try (20 pages will do it) that hard, and resort to abuse quicker than a deranged psychotic that just learned the word " cunt".

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Practical-Log ... 30126932

There are only so many tools the wealthy have to say fuck you to the poor, and even Charles Dickens is super relevant these days (and for the last 40 years) with this crowd.
He was writing about these wankers, what they are like, what they do and their morivations, even back then.
He explained people like Cameron, George Osbourne, Naddine Dorris, Iain Duncan Smith. Lee Andersons.
The rich, the married into or inheriters of wealth, the over priviledged, and the class traitors all behave the exact same way Dickens described.


They are nothing if not predictable.

There are only so many ways, and reasons why,
you can justify and rationalise, telling the poor,
to fuck off and die.

[Tichtheid]

Nothing is going to change. Eton is still mass producing Camerons, Boris', Jacob Rees Moggs. People who have zero idea about the outside world and drive past our ghastly little houses with a mixture of contempt and bemusement.

There's an article in today's Gruaniad saying that, too

So long as we treat Boris Johnson as a lone wolf, the other Tory beasts will roam free

[GogLais]

My solution, make Welsh the official language of the UK. No one can have unearned intelligence, sound superior, knowledgeable and sophisticated speaking Welsh.
There are no Welsh speaking sophisti'cunts.
When Welsh speakers speak English they sound dim as fuck.

Interesting.

[I like neeps]

Johnson is the Mails new star columnist. Probably as influential a position in the conservative party as any as their membership base are all mail reading reactionaries. He's far from gone from public life.

[Line6 HXFX]

Just saying.."the UK will be better off outside of Europe", translated the Welsh..is this f'king racket..

bydd y DU yn well y tu allan i Ewrop.

Who the fuck is going to go for that?
Try saying that with a posh farargian accent?

[Line6 HXFX]

Nothing is going to change. Eton is still mass producing Camerons, Boris', Jacob Rees Moggs. People who have zero idea about the outside world and drive past our ghastly little houses with a mixture of contempt and bemusement.

There's an article in today's Gruaniad saying that, too

So long as we treat Boris Johnson as a lone wolf, the other Tory beasts will roam free

What, that nothing is going to change, when a tiny amount of wankers and their opinions is all that matters?

Fucking Duh.

[Tichtheid]

Johnson is the Mails new star columnist. Probably as influential a position in the conservative party as any as their membership base are all mail reading reactionaries. He's far from gone from public life.

You'd think that any time he comes up for a voted public office again all his opponent would have to do is say, "He lied to parliament, he lied to you, he lied to the Queen, he lied to various wives, he lied to his boss at the Telegraph and got sacked for it, he's lying to you now" and that would be the end of it, but it's not.

[SaintK]

So the disgraced blonde cunt starts a new job as a columnist on the Daily Mail this Saturday
A perfect match!!!

[I like neeps]

Johnson is the Mails new star columnist. Probably as influential a position in the conservative party as any as their membership base are all mail reading reactionaries. He's far from gone from public life.

You'd think that any time he comes up for a voted public office again all his opponent would have to do is say, "He lied to parliament, he lied to you, he lied to the Queen, he lied to various wives, he lied to his boss at the Telegraph and got sacked for it, he's lying to you now" and that would be the end of it, but it's not.

All politicians lie though, they all change their mind on a whiff of negative focus group attention. As others have said Johnson is a symptom and not a cause of this.

The problem is, I think, when the unions were destroyed rightly or wrongly it means now people are so far removed from politics. Democracy requires participation but nobody really participates anymore, nobody is politically active. Local government has been cut to the core, public services have been sold off, national governments are full of lying sociopaths and have been for some time, the BBC and journalism both national and local is just awful. We've become consumers and not citizens. We need stronger unions for rental tenants, for employment, maybe groups for families etc.