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74/6 after 16
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And that's that.
TBF, I don't think anyone is beating Sri Lanka in these qualifiers.
Now Scotland must beat the three teams from the other group - if they do, they qualify, but all 3 will be difficult; perhaps only the Windies might be easy if they're already out by the time Scotland plays them. But both Zim and NL will be seeing the Scotland match as a must win and both will be full of confidence given their campaigns so far.
TBF, I don't think anyone is beating Sri Lanka in these qualifiers.
Now Scotland must beat the three teams from the other group - if they do, they qualify, but all 3 will be difficult; perhaps only the Windies might be easy if they're already out by the time Scotland plays them. But both Zim and NL will be seeing the Scotland match as a must win and both will be full of confidence given their campaigns so far.
West Indies are, to all intents and purposes, already out. Don't see Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe losing all three games to let them catch up. Scotland and the Netherlands need to hope they can beat the first placed team from the other group, and that the first placed team beats them too (i.e. we need to beat Zim and hope Sri Lanka do too).clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:16 pm And that's that.
TBF, I don't think anyone is beating Sri Lanka in these qualifiers.
Now Scotland must beat the three teams from the other group - if they do, they qualify, but all 3 will be difficult; perhaps only the Windies might be easy if they're already out by the time Scotland plays them. But both Zim and NL will be seeing the Scotland match as a must win and both will be full of confidence given their campaigns so far.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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That there’s racism and that your chances are greatly improved by going to public school are facts of life, so it would have been a shock if cricket was somehow exempt from them.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:30 amCindy Butts, the Chair of the committee looking into this. I worked with her last year on a project. She's outspoken but fair, and not one given to hyperbole. So for her to use the strong words she has, it must be absolutely grim.Glaston wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:25 amJust heard a woman on the radio had something to do with the report, describe English cricket as Institutionally racist and riddled with inequalities because of its over reliance on Public Schools.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:16 am Report into discrimination in English cricket is out, and thus far few surprises. Even Colin Graves accepts there’s racism in cricket so no shocks at their findings.
As for their conclusions, a mixed bag of very sensible and pie in the sky stuff. ‘Revive black cricket’ isn’t a recommendation any more than ‘England should win the world cup’. Equal pay for men and women in the pro game seems unachievable without either torching the men’s game or cutting other programmes significantly to subsidise the women’s game.
Similarly, I was asked a while back why cricket seems to have such a problem with racism and the simpler answer I gave and stand by is that it is the only traditional British team sport where c.30% of participants are south asian, the majority of those being Muslim. Again, poor integration with the Muslim community is a societal issue, the only reason you don’t get this in rugby is that there are almost no Muslims playing rugby.
With all that said, and I’ve already been very clear there’s a lot wrong in cricket, ‘rotten’ and institutionally racist just does not describe the diverse club and league structure I am a part of and I know I’m far from alone in thinking that (and yes I’m a white male etc but it is not just white males who think this). In fairness to the report and a lot of the testimony an awful lot has changed in the last 10-15 years.
I don’t see a way round the public school issue. Cricket is a technical sport and so the quality and quantity of coaching and facilities will have an oversized impact on your improvement and later ability. Do whatever you like (and there is a lot that can be improved, don’t get me wrong) but wealthier kids will always have a leg up.
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
Given the number of organisations, institutions, sports, arts etc that are considered, rightly to have some inherent racism in their activities, is it not about time we acknowledged it's actually society at large that is inherently racist? Pointing at different organisations only helps people say 'it's them, not me' and stick their heads in the sand.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:19 pmThat there’s racism and that your chances are greatly improved by going to public school are facts of life, so it would have been a shock if cricket was somehow exempt from them.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:30 amCindy Butts, the Chair of the committee looking into this. I worked with her last year on a project. She's outspoken but fair, and not one given to hyperbole. So for her to use the strong words she has, it must be absolutely grim.
Similarly, I was asked a while back why cricket seems to have such a problem with racism and the simpler answer I gave and stand by is that it is the only traditional British team sport where c.30% of participants are south asian, the majority of those being Muslim. Again, poor integration with the Muslim community is a societal issue, the only reason you don’t get this in rugby is that there are almost no Muslims playing rugby.
With all that said, and I’ve already been very clear there’s a lot wrong in cricket, ‘rotten’ and institutionally racist just does not describe the diverse club and league structure I am a part of and I know I’m far from alone in thinking that (and yes I’m a white male etc but it is not just white males who think this). In fairness to the report and a lot of the testimony an awful lot has changed in the last 10-15 years.
I don’t see a way round the public school issue. Cricket is a technical sport and so the quality and quantity of coaching and facilities will have an oversized impact on your improvement and later ability. Do whatever you like (and there is a lot that can be improved, don’t get me wrong) but wealthier kids will always have a leg up.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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I’ve pretty clearly acknowledged there’s plenty of racism in cricket. I don’t think the game is rotten to the coreBiffer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:35 amGiven the number of organisations, institutions, sports, arts etc that are considered, rightly to have some inherent racism in their activities, is it not about time we acknowledged it's actually society at large that is inherently racist? Pointing at different organisations only helps people say 'it's them, not me' and stick their heads in the sand.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:19 pmThat there’s racism and that your chances are greatly improved by going to public school are facts of life, so it would have been a shock if cricket was somehow exempt from them.clydecloggie wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:30 am
Cindy Butts, the Chair of the committee looking into this. I worked with her last year on a project. She's outspoken but fair, and not one given to hyperbole. So for her to use the strong words she has, it must be absolutely grim.
Similarly, I was asked a while back why cricket seems to have such a problem with racism and the simpler answer I gave and stand by is that it is the only traditional British team sport where c.30% of participants are south asian, the majority of those being Muslim. Again, poor integration with the Muslim community is a societal issue, the only reason you don’t get this in rugby is that there are almost no Muslims playing rugby.
With all that said, and I’ve already been very clear there’s a lot wrong in cricket, ‘rotten’ and institutionally racist just does not describe the diverse club and league structure I am a part of and I know I’m far from alone in thinking that (and yes I’m a white male etc but it is not just white males who think this). In fairness to the report and a lot of the testimony an awful lot has changed in the last 10-15 years.
I don’t see a way round the public school issue. Cricket is a technical sport and so the quality and quantity of coaching and facilities will have an oversized impact on your improvement and later ability. Do whatever you like (and there is a lot that can be improved, don’t get me wrong) but wealthier kids will always have a leg up.
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
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Just Stop Oil retards need to get tazed and OC sparayed. Same with extinction rebellion and those Insulate types. I sympathize with the causes but these bellends just infuriate me.
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His catching improved today
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Fucking raining.
20/0 after 8.1
Fantastic work from a Johnny removing the protester.
20/0 after 8.1
Fantastic work from a Johnny removing the protester.
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Possible red card for taking him through the horizontal though.
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Golden opportunity for Warner to clock the little prick with a bit of the finest English willow.
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Lords will give you a cavity inspection if they suspect you’ve got too much alcohol on you, but couldn’t spot JSO?
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Sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant as a whole we should be addressing this as a problem of racism across society, as that's what leads to all these organisations having racist elements / behaviours / whatever we want to describe them as.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:02 amI’ve pretty clearly acknowledged there’s plenty of racism in cricket. I don’t think the game is rotten to the coreBiffer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:35 amGiven the number of organisations, institutions, sports, arts etc that are considered, rightly to have some inherent racism in their activities, is it not about time we acknowledged it's actually society at large that is inherently racist? Pointing at different organisations only helps people say 'it's them, not me' and stick their heads in the sand.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:19 pm
That there’s racism and that your chances are greatly improved by going to public school are facts of life, so it would have been a shock if cricket was somehow exempt from them.
Similarly, I was asked a while back why cricket seems to have such a problem with racism and the simpler answer I gave and stand by is that it is the only traditional British team sport where c.30% of participants are south asian, the majority of those being Muslim. Again, poor integration with the Muslim community is a societal issue, the only reason you don’t get this in rugby is that there are almost no Muslims playing rugby.
With all that said, and I’ve already been very clear there’s a lot wrong in cricket, ‘rotten’ and institutionally racist just does not describe the diverse club and league structure I am a part of and I know I’m far from alone in thinking that (and yes I’m a white male etc but it is not just white males who think this). In fairness to the report and a lot of the testimony an awful lot has changed in the last 10-15 years.
I don’t see a way round the public school issue. Cricket is a technical sport and so the quality and quantity of coaching and facilities will have an oversized impact on your improvement and later ability. Do whatever you like (and there is a lot that can be improved, don’t get me wrong) but wealthier kids will always have a leg up.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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Ah - yes I agreeBiffer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:57 amSorry, that's not what I meant. I meant as a whole we should be addressing this as a problem of racism across society, as that's what leads to all these organisations having racist elements / behaviours / whatever we want to describe them as.Paddington Bear wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:02 amI’ve pretty clearly acknowledged there’s plenty of racism in cricket. I don’t think the game is rotten to the coreBiffer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:35 am
Given the number of organisations, institutions, sports, arts etc that are considered, rightly to have some inherent racism in their activities, is it not about time we acknowledged it's actually society at large that is inherently racist? Pointing at different organisations only helps people say 'it's them, not me' and stick their heads in the sand.
Old men forget: yet all shall be forgot, But he'll remember with advantages, What feats he did that day
That's what they want to happen. Deal with them quietly and calmly, as was done today.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:26 am Just Stop Oil retards need to get tazed and OC sparayed. Same with extinction rebellion and those Insulate types. I sympathize with the causes but these bellends just infuriate me.
The other option of course, is not to chuck them out of the ground. Just return them to their seats to face the music.
And are there two g’s in Bugger Off?
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You can thank me for that wicket England - I clicked on to cricinfo and the first scoreboard update was the wicket.
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Sensible. Unless they're sitting on a road with arms folded.Biffer wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:59 amThat's what they want to happen. Deal with them quietly and calmly, as was done today.FalseBayFC wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:26 am Just Stop Oil retards need to get tazed and OC sparayed. Same with extinction rebellion and those Insulate types. I sympathize with the causes but these bellends just infuriate me.
The other option of course, is not to chuck them out of the ground. Just return them to their seats to face the music.
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Not the ball to leave.Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:02 pm You can thank me for that wicket England - I clicked on to cricinfo and the first scoreboard update was the wicket.
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Tongue rattles the stumps again.
Warner gone for 66
Warner gone for 66
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Some delivery that. Unplayable.
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Let’s hope Australia fancy a go at us tonight!
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No don't think we will be that merciful.....
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England looking as impotent as a Nevada boxing commissioner.
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252/3,
Head rollicking atm
Broad and Anderson wicketless
Aus well on top.
Head rollicking atm
Broad and Anderson wicketless
Aus well on top.
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Rooooooooooot with 2 in the over.
Head and Green gone
Head and Green gone
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I am kind of freaking out.
I have checked cricinfo 3 times today - first time Khawaja went first refresh, second time Labuschagne went out on the first refresh - and now Head and Green went.
I may be a god.
I have checked cricinfo 3 times today - first time Khawaja went first refresh, second time Labuschagne went out on the first refresh - and now Head and Green went.
I may be a god.
Thor Sedan wrote: ↑Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:23 pm I am kind of freaking out.
I have checked cricinfo 3 times today - first time Khawaja went first refresh, second time Labuschagne went out on the first refresh - and now Head and Green went.
I may be a god.
Please refresh more often