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Well, shit. 60/4 in the 13th. Bugger.
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Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:01 pm Well, shit. 60/4 in the 13th. Bugger.
73/5 now. Game over, you'd say. Normally.
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74/6 after 16 :cry:

99/7 after 21
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Gave ourselves a chance but didn't take it. Onwards chaps, let's have a damn good go at the WIndies, Zimbabwe and the Netherlands.
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On the bright side, we're up with the run rate.
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Biffer wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 12:49 pm On the bright side, we're up with the run rate.
I was just going to post that. And Chris Greaves looks like he wants to get those runs before 2 wickets fall at the other end.
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And that's that.

TBF, I don't think anyone is beating Sri Lanka in these qualifiers.

Now Scotland must beat the three teams from the other group - if they do, they qualify, but all 3 will be difficult; perhaps only the Windies might be easy if they're already out by the time Scotland plays them. But both Zim and NL will be seeing the Scotland match as a must win and both will be full of confidence given their campaigns so far.
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clydecloggie wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 1:16 pm And that's that.

TBF, I don't think anyone is beating Sri Lanka in these qualifiers.

Now Scotland must beat the three teams from the other group - if they do, they qualify, but all 3 will be difficult; perhaps only the Windies might be easy if they're already out by the time Scotland plays them. But both Zim and NL will be seeing the Scotland match as a must win and both will be full of confidence given their campaigns so far.
West Indies are, to all intents and purposes, already out. Don't see Sri Lanka and Zimbabwe losing all three games to let them catch up. Scotland and the Netherlands need to hope they can beat the first placed team from the other group, and that the first placed team beats them too (i.e. we need to beat Zim and hope Sri Lanka do too).
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clydecloggie wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:30 am
Glaston wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:25 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 8:16 am Report into discrimination in English cricket is out, and thus far few surprises. Even Colin Graves accepts there’s racism in cricket so no shocks at their findings.

As for their conclusions, a mixed bag of very sensible and pie in the sky stuff. ‘Revive black cricket’ isn’t a recommendation any more than ‘England should win the world cup’. Equal pay for men and women in the pro game seems unachievable without either torching the men’s game or cutting other programmes significantly to subsidise the women’s game.
Just heard a woman on the radio had something to do with the report, describe English cricket as Institutionally racist and riddled with inequalities because of its over reliance on Public Schools.
Cindy Butts, the Chair of the committee looking into this. I worked with her last year on a project. She's outspoken but fair, and not one given to hyperbole. So for her to use the strong words she has, it must be absolutely grim.
That there’s racism and that your chances are greatly improved by going to public school are facts of life, so it would have been a shock if cricket was somehow exempt from them.
Similarly, I was asked a while back why cricket seems to have such a problem with racism and the simpler answer I gave and stand by is that it is the only traditional British team sport where c.30% of participants are south asian, the majority of those being Muslim. Again, poor integration with the Muslim community is a societal issue, the only reason you don’t get this in rugby is that there are almost no Muslims playing rugby.

With all that said, and I’ve already been very clear there’s a lot wrong in cricket, ‘rotten’ and institutionally racist just does not describe the diverse club and league structure I am a part of and I know I’m far from alone in thinking that (and yes I’m a white male etc but it is not just white males who think this). In fairness to the report and a lot of the testimony an awful lot has changed in the last 10-15 years.

I don’t see a way round the public school issue. Cricket is a technical sport and so the quality and quantity of coaching and facilities will have an oversized impact on your improvement and later ability. Do whatever you like (and there is a lot that can be improved, don’t get me wrong) but wealthier kids will always have a leg up.
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Ashes at Lords. Overcast today and rain forecast for Fro and Sat. :thumbdown:
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Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:19 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:30 am
Glaston wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:25 am

Just heard a woman on the radio had something to do with the report, describe English cricket as Institutionally racist and riddled with inequalities because of its over reliance on Public Schools.
Cindy Butts, the Chair of the committee looking into this. I worked with her last year on a project. She's outspoken but fair, and not one given to hyperbole. So for her to use the strong words she has, it must be absolutely grim.
That there’s racism and that your chances are greatly improved by going to public school are facts of life, so it would have been a shock if cricket was somehow exempt from them.
Similarly, I was asked a while back why cricket seems to have such a problem with racism and the simpler answer I gave and stand by is that it is the only traditional British team sport where c.30% of participants are south asian, the majority of those being Muslim. Again, poor integration with the Muslim community is a societal issue, the only reason you don’t get this in rugby is that there are almost no Muslims playing rugby.

With all that said, and I’ve already been very clear there’s a lot wrong in cricket, ‘rotten’ and institutionally racist just does not describe the diverse club and league structure I am a part of and I know I’m far from alone in thinking that (and yes I’m a white male etc but it is not just white males who think this). In fairness to the report and a lot of the testimony an awful lot has changed in the last 10-15 years.

I don’t see a way round the public school issue. Cricket is a technical sport and so the quality and quantity of coaching and facilities will have an oversized impact on your improvement and later ability. Do whatever you like (and there is a lot that can be improved, don’t get me wrong) but wealthier kids will always have a leg up.
Given the number of organisations, institutions, sports, arts etc that are considered, rightly to have some inherent racism in their activities, is it not about time we acknowledged it's actually society at large that is inherently racist? Pointing at different organisations only helps people say 'it's them, not me' and stick their heads in the sand.
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Biffer wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:35 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:19 pm
clydecloggie wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 11:30 am

Cindy Butts, the Chair of the committee looking into this. I worked with her last year on a project. She's outspoken but fair, and not one given to hyperbole. So for her to use the strong words she has, it must be absolutely grim.
That there’s racism and that your chances are greatly improved by going to public school are facts of life, so it would have been a shock if cricket was somehow exempt from them.
Similarly, I was asked a while back why cricket seems to have such a problem with racism and the simpler answer I gave and stand by is that it is the only traditional British team sport where c.30% of participants are south asian, the majority of those being Muslim. Again, poor integration with the Muslim community is a societal issue, the only reason you don’t get this in rugby is that there are almost no Muslims playing rugby.

With all that said, and I’ve already been very clear there’s a lot wrong in cricket, ‘rotten’ and institutionally racist just does not describe the diverse club and league structure I am a part of and I know I’m far from alone in thinking that (and yes I’m a white male etc but it is not just white males who think this). In fairness to the report and a lot of the testimony an awful lot has changed in the last 10-15 years.

I don’t see a way round the public school issue. Cricket is a technical sport and so the quality and quantity of coaching and facilities will have an oversized impact on your improvement and later ability. Do whatever you like (and there is a lot that can be improved, don’t get me wrong) but wealthier kids will always have a leg up.
Given the number of organisations, institutions, sports, arts etc that are considered, rightly to have some inherent racism in their activities, is it not about time we acknowledged it's actually society at large that is inherently racist? Pointing at different organisations only helps people say 'it's them, not me' and stick their heads in the sand.
I’ve pretty clearly acknowledged there’s plenty of racism in cricket. I don’t think the game is rotten to the core
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Just Stop Oil retards need to get tazed and OC sparayed. Same with extinction rebellion and those Insulate types. I sympathize with the causes but these bellends just infuriate me.
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His catching improved today
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Fucking raining.

20/0 after 8.1

Fantastic work from a Johnny removing the protester.
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Possible red card for taking him through the horizontal though.
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Golden opportunity for Warner to clock the little prick with a bit of the finest English willow.
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Lords will give you a cavity inspection if they suspect you’ve got too much alcohol on you, but couldn’t spot JSO?
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Nice use of an orange flare which is probably made of petroleum products.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:02 am
Biffer wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:35 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Tue Jun 27, 2023 5:19 pm

That there’s racism and that your chances are greatly improved by going to public school are facts of life, so it would have been a shock if cricket was somehow exempt from them.
Similarly, I was asked a while back why cricket seems to have such a problem with racism and the simpler answer I gave and stand by is that it is the only traditional British team sport where c.30% of participants are south asian, the majority of those being Muslim. Again, poor integration with the Muslim community is a societal issue, the only reason you don’t get this in rugby is that there are almost no Muslims playing rugby.

With all that said, and I’ve already been very clear there’s a lot wrong in cricket, ‘rotten’ and institutionally racist just does not describe the diverse club and league structure I am a part of and I know I’m far from alone in thinking that (and yes I’m a white male etc but it is not just white males who think this). In fairness to the report and a lot of the testimony an awful lot has changed in the last 10-15 years.

I don’t see a way round the public school issue. Cricket is a technical sport and so the quality and quantity of coaching and facilities will have an oversized impact on your improvement and later ability. Do whatever you like (and there is a lot that can be improved, don’t get me wrong) but wealthier kids will always have a leg up.
Given the number of organisations, institutions, sports, arts etc that are considered, rightly to have some inherent racism in their activities, is it not about time we acknowledged it's actually society at large that is inherently racist? Pointing at different organisations only helps people say 'it's them, not me' and stick their heads in the sand.
I’ve pretty clearly acknowledged there’s plenty of racism in cricket. I don’t think the game is rotten to the core
Sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant as a whole we should be addressing this as a problem of racism across society, as that's what leads to all these organisations having racist elements / behaviours / whatever we want to describe them as.
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Biffer wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:57 am
Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 9:02 am
Biffer wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 8:35 am

Given the number of organisations, institutions, sports, arts etc that are considered, rightly to have some inherent racism in their activities, is it not about time we acknowledged it's actually society at large that is inherently racist? Pointing at different organisations only helps people say 'it's them, not me' and stick their heads in the sand.
I’ve pretty clearly acknowledged there’s plenty of racism in cricket. I don’t think the game is rotten to the core
Sorry, that's not what I meant. I meant as a whole we should be addressing this as a problem of racism across society, as that's what leads to all these organisations having racist elements / behaviours / whatever we want to describe them as.
Ah - yes I agree
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FalseBayFC wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:26 am Just Stop Oil retards need to get tazed and OC sparayed. Same with extinction rebellion and those Insulate types. I sympathize with the causes but these bellends just infuriate me.
That's what they want to happen. Deal with them quietly and calmly, as was done today.

The other option of course, is not to chuck them out of the ground. Just return them to their seats to face the music.
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You can thank me for that wicket England - I clicked on to cricinfo and the first scoreboard update was the wicket.

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Biffer wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 11:59 am
FalseBayFC wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 10:26 am Just Stop Oil retards need to get tazed and OC sparayed. Same with extinction rebellion and those Insulate types. I sympathize with the causes but these bellends just infuriate me.
That's what they want to happen. Deal with them quietly and calmly, as was done today.

The other option of course, is not to chuck them out of the ground. Just return them to their seats to face the music.
Sensible. Unless they're sitting on a road with arms folded.
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Thor Sedan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 12:02 pm You can thank me for that wicket England - I clicked on to cricinfo and the first scoreboard update was the wicket.

You are very welcome.
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Tongue rattles the stumps again. :thumbup:

Warner gone for 66
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Insane_Homer wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 1:18 pm Tongue rattles the stumps again. :thumbup:

Warner gone for 66
Some delivery that. Unplayable.
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Let’s hope Australia fancy a go at us tonight!
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Aussies looking like they're going to put a big score on here.
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Paddington Bear wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 2:06 pm Let’s hope Australia fancy a go at us tonight!
No don't think we will be that merciful.....
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Ollie Pope hasn't come back on the field since his shoulder injury. Not the first time he's hurt that shoulder.

Foakes in for Pope next test, move Bairstow to 3?
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England looking as impotent as a Nevada boxing commissioner.
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England certainly creaking here a bit. Wonder if the Kiwi influence will impart some resilience......
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252/3,

Head rollicking atm
Broad and Anderson wicketless

Aus well on top.
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Rooooooooooot with 2 in the over.

Head and Green gone
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I am kind of freaking out.

I have checked cricinfo 3 times today - first time Khawaja went first refresh, second time Labuschagne went out on the first refresh - and now Head and Green went.

I may be a god.
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Thor Sedan wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:23 pm I am kind of freaking out.

I have checked cricinfo 3 times today - first time Khawaja went first refresh, second time Labuschagne went out on the first refresh - and now Head and Green went.

I may be a god.
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Day one to the Australians.

Lovely.

England looking old and broken......
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Jimmy should make his announcement tomorrow sometime - before the end of the innings anyway as I doubt he will have to bowl again this match.
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Deepsouth wrote: Wed Jun 28, 2023 5:55 pm Day one to the Australians.

Lovely.

England looking old and broken......
Aussies had an awful lot of luck amongst some average stuff from England. But yes, not convinced by England or the tactics
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