The Official Cricket Thread

[Deepsouth]

Its cricket on a rugby forum. You will probably all over the place if the Wallabies beat the Boks this weekend?

Not really mate. Don't think you can read to much into this year's RC. Too much tinkering going on ahead of the World Cup...

By the way Oom would like to apologise for my previous poaccusation regarding AWB. Sorry.

No worries Boet. Can take it on the chin and move on. Good luck for saturday.

Cheers Oom Good luck yourself. Hope it's a cracker
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[Big D]

I am not sure I understand the rumoured moves within the team that England are allegedly planning to make.

Pope, Tongue and Anderson out for Woakes, Wood and Ali with Brook moved to 3.

Firstly, Brook is the least experienced batsman England have, hasn't batted at 3 very often and doesn't really have the technique for it based on what we've seen over the series.

Tongue was pretty decent and Woakes hasn't played a 4 day game since early May.

They are clearly worried about the batting yet will not call up Foakes who has averaged a respectable 39 in the "Bazball" era and will save runs by his keeping being better than JB.

[And 1 guest]

Woakes, Wood and Ali in for Pope, Anderson and Tongue. So Brook at 3 and Stokes at 5. Pleased to see Wood there, but not sure of Brook up the order, and with Stokes hardly able to run the lower middle order is a worry

[Sandstorm]

If they left Bairstow out at his home ground, the Tykes would burn Headingly to the ground!

[Mahoney]

Never any question of leaving Bairstow out

[Mahoney]

With Pope injured some of us were calling for Foakes to come in at 7, with Root, Brook, Stokes & Bairstow sharing 3-6 between them in whatever order.

[Guy Smiley]

Yes Sherlock impressive. As are the two Austtaliia have won.

Seeing we are on the Cricket thread remind me how many Cricket World Cups NZ has, oh that's right lol....

Its cricket on a rugby forum. You will probably all over the place if the Wallabies beat the Boks this weekend?

I’m not surprised he didn’t recognise the Bledisloe. Most Australians have never seen it.

[JM2K6]

I am not sure I understand the rumoured moves within the team that England are allegedly planning to make.

Pope, Tongue and Anderson out for Woakes, Wood and Ali with Brook moved to 3.

Firstly, Brook is the least experienced batsman England have, hasn't batted at 3 very often and doesn't really have the technique for it based on what we've seen over the series.

Tongue was pretty decent and Woakes hasn't played a 4 day game since early May.

They are clearly worried about the batting yet will not call up Foakes who has averaged a respectable 39 in the "Bazball" era and will save runs by his keeping being better than JB.

Tongue probably has fitness concerns, he's not known for durability.

Agree on Brook and Foakes. The latter is clearly never going to get back in barring injury to Bairstow at this point because of how stubborn these guys are when their method is questioned, and Crawley's success this series hammers the nail into that particular coffin.

Woakes is our best option to replace a faltering Jimmy. Ali probably should be Liam Dawson but heyho.

[Sandstorm]

replace a faltering Jimmy

You've changed your tune in less than 48 hours.

[JM2K6]

replace a faltering Jimmy

You've changed your tune in less than 48 hours.

Have I? Or did you not read the bit where I said he's having a shit series?

[OomStruisbaai]

replace a faltering Jimmy

You've changed your tune in less than 48 hours.

Have I? Or did you not read the bit where I said he's having a shit series?

English is his second language.

[Insane_Homer]

Sco going about setting up a nice total against the dutch

201/4 with ~13 to go.

[Insane_Homer]

Whiners win toss and will bowl at the cheats.

[Thor Sedan]

Gotta respect the fact that Aussie have lost 3 tosses on an away tour and still find themselves ahead.

[Insane_Homer]

Broad gets Warner in the first over!

[Thor Sedan]

Broad gets Warner in the first over!

That was predictable.

So when do we start questioning the English Spirit of the Game when they won't allow the touring team any options at the toss? Disgusting really.

[Lobby]

Broad gets Warner in the first over!

That was predictable.

So when do we start questioning the English Spirit of the Game when they won't allow the touring team any options at the toss? Disgusting really.

Letting Broad bowl at Warner also seems dreadfully unfair given the predictability of the result.

[Sandstorm]

Broad gets Warner in the first over!

That was predictable.

So when do we start questioning the English Spirit of the Game when they won't allow the touring team any options at the toss? Disgusting really.

Letting Broad bowl at Warner also seems dreadfully unfair given the predictability of the result.

Round the wicket to left-handers should be banned.

[Thor Sedan]

Scotland struggle to 277.

Not sure if that will be enough to keep the Dutch out.

[Sandstorm]

93-96 mph from Wood. Exciting.

[Big D]

93-96 mph from Wood. Exciting.

I would love to see England just once field Wood, Stone and Archer in the same attack. Would be some sight. Injuries of course will never allow this. All able to hit that speed range.

[Big D]

Scotland struggle to 277.

Not sure if that will be enough to keep the Dutch out.

Netherlands will need to score faster than usual so might bring it's own pressure.

Edit - They need to knock it off in 44 or 45 overs depending how far past (1-6 runs) they go past the total by.

[Thor Sedan]

So Scotland need the win to qualify - Dutch need to win but chase down in 44 overs to qualify?

Edit - beat me to it D - so yes - that makes things a little more interesting.

[Thor Sedan]

Pace works.....Wood throwing thunderbolts down

[JM2K6]

Turned on the cricket to see it was 42-2. Great.

14 extras already. What the actual fuck?

[Sandstorm]

Turned on the cricket to see it was 42-2. Great.

14 extras already. What the actual fuck?

Wood's pace taking byes over Bairstow's head for 4....

[JM2K6]

Turned on the cricket to see it was 42-2. Great.

14 extras already. What the actual fuck?

Wood's pace taking byes over Bairstow's head for 4....

4 != 14.

Bairstow drops a catch.

[Sandstorm]

Labu-something goooorn

[Torquemada 1420]

I just find it all hilarious, i got absolutely no skin in the game, but if what happenned is within the laws of the game then stop moaning and maybe blame the player who was dumb enough to do what he did. This idea of "not within the spirit of the game" died with proffesional sport, its simple really, if you dont want it to happen, make a law against it, otherwise suck it up.

Cricket is weird in the way it picks and chooses what is sporting. The sledging wouldn't be tolerated in any other sport. Not even football.

Every sport has weird lines between what is and isn’t acceptable.
Off the top of my head:
Football - acceptable to get in the ref’s face and tell him to fuck off, unacceptable to play on if someone is down injured (rugby vice versa of course)
Rugby - acceptable to pantomime boo until the ref gives a card, unacceptable to boo the kicker, and let’s not forget traditionally acceptable to stamp/fight in a way that could grievously injure someone, so long as you didn’t gouge.
American football - acceptable to hit a player in a manner that can cause brain injury, unacceptable to ‘run up the score’.
Tennis - acceptable to deliberately exaggerate ‘oohs’ and ‘aahs’ after playing a shot, unacceptable for the crowd to make a sound.

I could go on.

What makes cricket’s different is that the Spirit of the Game, far from an abstract concept, is incorporated into the Laws of the Game in the preamble. Like any preamble, the Laws should be interpreted with that in mind.

I don't think we can conflate audience behaviour and that of the sporting participants and that would render some of your examples out of bounds. Anyway
1) Football. No, it's not. And anyone doing so that blatantly would be sent off. I do agree on the down injured thing which is some bizarre effort by footballers to feign some degree of morality.
2) Rugby. That's an audience thing and certainly does not apply in France and so can't be considered global regardless. Stamping was legal. It was permitted under the ruck laws. Hard to see how it wasn't sporting if it was in the laws. You might as well say a hard tackle is unsporting.
3) Yankball. On the brain injury bit: same thing as rucking. I don't know what "run up the score" means!
4) Tennis. Audience again.

[Thor Sedan]

Bairstow drops another......couldn't happen to a nice guy.

[JM2K6]

You useless bag of angry Yorkshite shite, Bairstow

[Big D]

Bairstow drops another......couldn't happen to a nice guy.

It is such an avoidable problem.

[Big D]

That's a shocker by Bairstow.

[Thor Sedan]

All a bit easy for the Dutch.

[JM2K6]

Cricket is weird in the way it picks and chooses what is sporting. The sledging wouldn't be tolerated in any other sport. Not even football.

Every sport has weird lines between what is and isn’t acceptable.
Off the top of my head:
Football - acceptable to get in the ref’s face and tell him to fuck off, unacceptable to play on if someone is down injured (rugby vice versa of course)
Rugby - acceptable to pantomime boo until the ref gives a card, unacceptable to boo the kicker, and let’s not forget traditionally acceptable to stamp/fight in a way that could grievously injure someone, so long as you didn’t gouge.
American football - acceptable to hit a player in a manner that can cause brain injury, unacceptable to ‘run up the score’.
Tennis - acceptable to deliberately exaggerate ‘oohs’ and ‘aahs’ after playing a shot, unacceptable for the crowd to make a sound.

I could go on.

What makes cricket’s different is that the Spirit of the Game, far from an abstract concept, is incorporated into the Laws of the Game in the preamble. Like any preamble, the Laws should be interpreted with that in mind.

I don't think we can conflate audience behaviour and that of the sporting participants and that would render some of your examples out of bounds. Anyway
1) Football. No, it's not. And anyone doing so that blatantly would be sent off. I do agree on the down injured thing which is some bizarre effort by footballers to feign some degree of morality.
2) Rugby. That's an audience thing and certainly does not apply in France and so can't be considered global regardless. Stamping was legal. It was permitted under the ruck laws. Hard to see how it wasn't sporting if it was in the laws. You might as well say a hard tackle is unsporting.
3) Yankball. On the brain injury bit: same thing as rucking. I don't know what "run up the score" means!
4) Tennis. Audience again.

Torq I don't know what football you're watching but players routinely scream fuck off to refs and sledging is endemic

[Insane_Homer]

smith done,

4 before lunch!

[JM2K6]

Smith is hilarious, he's always so aggreived at really obvious decisions made against him.

Listen all you had to do was edge it a yard either side of the useless Yorkshire fuck, it's your own fault for nicking it straight into his ginger gut.

[Margin__Walker]

Well at least he caught that one. Small mercies.

[Big D]

Big wicket on stroke of lunch.

Strange review. All the England players went up so they heard something.

That drop of Head is massive. Could have had them 5 down with all their gun batsmen gone.

[Sandstorm]

Smith is hilarious, he's always so aggreived at really obvious decisions made against him.

Listen all you had to do was edge it a yard either side of the useless Yorkshire fuck, it's your own fault for nicking it straight into his ginger gut.